Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.

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      Either post on reddit and get a mix of Nazis and Russian bots.

      Or post on Lemmy and get dumb fucks that idolize Russia or China and don’t even understand what communism is they just know it’s “cool” to be against capitalism.

      Also never vote, but simultaneously blame the Democrats for everything.

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        Yeah what’s up with that? We now cool with China? What?

        Don’t buy Tesla, but buy slave made cars from BYD! WHO LITERALLY RUNS SLAVE CAMPS OUTSIDE OF CHINA.

        What. The. Fuck. Internet.

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      The Joe Biden legacy is literal genocide. What kind of insane person do you have to be to not be happy about this? This is objectively awesome.

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    I wonder how the reaction here would be if trump had this happen to him instead. Fuck being polite about awful people.

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    My MAGA father-in-law also has prostate cancer. I bet dollar to donut he’s going to be positively giddy hearing this news.

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    Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.

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      That would have been a bummer, wouldn’t it? Joe Biden should have been ashamed of himself if he had allowed such a thing to happen under his leadership. Thank God he didn’t.

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        Oh weird, so it wasn’t a constant stream of weapons provided with stamped approval by the admin? It wasn’t that the only time they threatened to stop it was only a very specific type of heavy bomb, not any other munitions? It wasn’t the Biden admin who initially rejected the terms ceasefire until deep into the conflict? It wasn’t the Biden admins ceasefire plans that were accepted and abandoned by Trump, proving that if they had provided full throated support of those plans it could have very reasonably happened a year sooner?

        Best thing you can say about this fuck was that he was the white guy they used to get Obama elected, cause they figured no one would vote for him unless he had a token cracker.

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    It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.

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      I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.

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        I mean, we know his health report was a sham. The dude reported that Trump only has like 5% body fat. Even the most shredded body builders struggle to hit 5%.

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          Can you cite the source for that? Because that claim simply could not have been made without sounding like a goddamn moron.

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          Even if it was true, too little body fat comes with its own bag of health issues. (Metabolism, cardiovascular, vitamin uptake, brain function…)

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      Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.

      It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.

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        It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.

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        I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.

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        its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer

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      With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.

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      Get everything written down and then have it proof read by a lawyer and a scifi novelist, thats how I beat the Genie in South Africa of 94.

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    Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.

    But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.

    He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.

    I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn’t fight back against the fascist hard enough.

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      If he won a second term and died then somebody other than Vance and Musk would be running the show, at least.

      Even while dying he’s stilling participating in fundraising for the DNC.

      He will be missed.

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        Yeah it seems fundraising is more important to the DNC than improving the country. But then again the people who pay big money to politics aren’t happy with a better country. That would mean less wealth for them and more dignity fir everyone else.

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      But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.

      Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don’t want power. It’s all automatic to them at this point. They don’t know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.

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        if you’re going with “regardless”, might as well add that none of us will "make it’. spoiler alert, we all die at the end.

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          We don’t know that. It’s statistically likely, but it’s possible that due to advances in technology, the first person to cure aging is already alive today.

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    Lucky for him he’ll get the best medical treatment on the planet. Meanwhile if I broke a leg I’d be destitute

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      Why tf do Americans reward America with their skills and education? The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?

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        The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?

        Hahahahahahaha… you sound like one of our republicans.

        I work as a biomed, a sector of repairing medical equipment that is a sought after career field, desperately needed. Been doing it for five years, and I like to think I’m damn good at my job.

        I also only have an associates degree.

        There are not many countries that will take me with only that associates degree. It’s like I tell conservatives who do the “Don’t like it, move”, being from the US isn’t some special wonderful status that gets us open doors into other countries. Other countries don’t want us like the Republicans don’t want foreigners from other countries, unless they’re wealthy.

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          Biomed isn’t really a sought after career. Most people outside of the medical community don’t even know it exists. The last hospital I worked at was starting a teenage volunteer program and surveyed high school and college kids. 60% thought only doctors and nurses worked at hospitals.

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            By sought after I mean the hospitals searching for us. As you say, my hospital is bringing in high schoolers to intern because the industry basically has no pipeline for workers because most of the old guard are still there but retiring and/or dying off so suddenly there’s a massive lack in a very tiny pool caused by it basically not being advertised until very recently.

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        “Move?!”

        You make it sound like moving houses. Just pack your shit and drive off. Most countries don’t want us, especially if someone wasn’t born lucky enough to be able to go to college, and has some formal education. Even if that was easy, it’s fucking EXPENSIVE. thousands of dollars. A lot of us are barely getting by, and a lot more don’t have the luxury of spending thousands to go to another country. And all that, to move to a place where you won’t have citizenship without lots of work, and hell, If facism takes over that country I’ll get kicked out. Not to mention leaving my entire family behind.

        All this assumes I’m moving to an English speaking country, otherwise I’ll have a language barrier at the same time I’m trying to rebuild my entire existence in a new place with unfamiliar culture.

        There’s probably so much more. It’s not impossible, but for me it’s not feasible at this time. I desperately wish it was.

        Edit: sorry if I came off as a dick here, it’s just frustrating seeing the thing I want so bad (to leave) simplified so much. Especially if you didn’t grow up here.

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          America is pretty much the only country in the world that has ever accepted the tired, the poor, and the huddled masses.

          No other country will accept a bunch of poor anyones with no money, bad health, and no unique and valuable skills. Not in any significant numbers that matter, at least.

          and thousands? moving to another country would take hundreds of thousands, minimum. The paperwork alone for moving to, and getting citizenship in the destination country would probably require a hundred thousand alone, between lawyers and paperwork, not to mention probably a year minimum of time. Assuming you would even get that far to begin with, given Americas reputation on the world stage at the moment. It’d probably be treated as well as Russians wanting to immigrate.

          Hell, even moving to another state is an expense most americans can not afford. Especially with the absurdity of rent prices being, in some places, as much as monthy minimum wage is, if not higher. Not to mention buying grossly price-inflated properties if you want to go the ownership route… anything that would be affordable will probably still need massive amounts of work to repair and make suitable for habitation.

          S’why it pisses me off every time when some ignorant dumbass just goes " well if you don’t like it, move! ", cause I can imagine everyone that says that probably has rich parents that have funded their every whim, because how else can just up and moving at a whim be possible for the average person?

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            Hell, even moving to another state is an expense most americans can not afford. Especially with the absurdity of rent prices being, in some places, as much as monthy minimum wage is, if not higher.

            OH MY GOD THANK YOU! So many people don’t get that when you’re in a shitty red state it’s REALLY REALLY hard to get out because someone making California wages has absolute way more than we do. Sure, they’re broke as shit there because the prices are high, and that sucks, but then if you’re coming from Missouri to California, the phrase “fucked” doesn’t even begin to cover it.

            It’s telling that I say I clawed my way out of Arkansas and Missouri was my “better”

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          and to add, most countries accepting immigrants from the USA, they only want people with PHD in stems. most people dont have one. since a very small group of college graduates even go to grad school anyways.

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          I feel you, I’ve gone through similar problems but from the other side of the world. In case if you need advice:

          Consider eastern europe. From what I know, you’ll have 3 months-visa free, that’s more than enough to find a job in a big city even without any kind of connections. All you need is moving expenses and a few months of rent, and you’ll have a very good chances of getting into some kind of residency program (do research your options in advance)

          The language barrier will be a thing, but english will get you into many doors if you choose a big city. You can work on your language afterwards.

          You’ll fail a lot, it will be very stressful, you will be outsider in the eyes of many, but trust me your chances are much bigger than some people I know that have done a similar thing and succeeded. And after you succeed (and you will, if you try and don’t give up) the understanding that government’s power over you is not absolute will stay with you forever.

          All that said: I’m not saying you need to leave. I’m just saying that you can.

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          I feel you.

          I’m in Australia. If we turned fascist I would want to move but the logistics of doing that are very challenging.

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          You’re not wrong, but saying “most countries don’t want us” is very wrong, I’d say. We may not like USA very much but it doesn’t extent to random (non-MAGA) Americans; always kind, welcoming, and hard-working.

          And on a real not politically correct note, if European countries could take Americans instead of Moroccans, Afghans, and Syrians, I think virtually everyone would be happy with that solution

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        I am trying to talk my husband into moving. I can probably land the job in the EU I am interviewing for, but he does NOT want to move. He doesn’t want to leave the small amount of community we have. He doesn’t want to overreact in fear to this administration. He doesn’t want to give up our home and our lifestyle (the EU pays substantially less across many industries). Our parents are getting older and sicker; it’s hard to move abroad when you know there’s probably only a handful of years left with them, especially when you have children.

        I think the Internet discounts how difficult it can be to uproot.

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        Skills and education? Most Americans have neither of those things. We are a disposable people and that’s exactly what the corporate slaveowners want. We can’t escape because we are less valuable to other countries which means it’s easier to exploit us. What are we going to do about it, kill our masters? That’s not nice.

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    fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president

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          I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:

          Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.

          I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.

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            I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though

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                Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.

                If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.

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                  Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.

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              As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?

              Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?

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              Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.

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                Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.

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                  Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  He deserves much worse.

                  Agreed.

                  Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.

                  Hard disagree.

                  You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.

                  If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.

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      While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.

      Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.

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        I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.

        I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.

        No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.

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          Because his underlings have been downplaying his health issues for the last several years and that’s what they’re used to doing.

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      the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.

      much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.

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    Kinda wish this happened on like January 1, 2024, we might’ve had an open Democratic Primary and potentially averted fascism.

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      Would have changed nothing.

      The left would have cried that whoever wasn’t X enough, the right would have rallied around the Second Coming of their True Messiah.

      The Russian playbook is now well-tuned to its audience, our morons.

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        Oh right I almost forgot that the standard for president of the United States means not fucking everything up, not acturally doing anything good. Forgive me for expecting anything from the corrupt corporate elites or the superpacs that fund them. Im sure another four years of incompetent Democratic rule where they do absolutely nothing will really convince the American people not to vote far right. It worked for Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden.

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        When will the left learn that the president has to be pro genocide and have no plan to ease the upcoming financial suffering of young people. The left simply wants too much

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          When will the left learn that not voting against literal fascists leads to literal fascism where you can’t say shit about genocide without being sent to El Salvador?

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            Sending billions in weapons to an ethnostate committing genocide counts as fascist. There was no voting against fascism in the last election.

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        The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too “anti-communist” to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.

        For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn’t what helped them in the midterms, hasn’t been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their “good ole Republican friends” who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy’s sake.

        I’m tired and disgusted of this “blame the left” narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat’s biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn’t easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That’s not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards

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        this is exactly the garbage a israeli or superpac bot will say. why does the blue maga never whine about ultrarich and aipac ? they influence our elections a million times more than anything else. warren was going to be vp and would have been president today if superpacs wouldn’t have forced their puppet harris on us who got destroyed in the primaries. and aipac, lol we all know saying anything other than israel is the true messiah is the death of any politician carrier or even an actual death.

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    God, thats fucking terrible. We put him through the riger the last couple years & now this? This is the worst timeline.

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      I don’t know about you, but I wanted him to stop working when he was 74 and enjoy the rest of his life with his family like people should be allowed to do much younger than that, not start working again at 78.

      I have absolutely no guilt over what happened at the tail end of his presidency, I tried to keep him from being in that position at all.

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      5 hours ago

      Everyone except big money donors wanted him to retire literal decades ago…

      No one forced him to keep going, we had to fight him to stop well past it was time.

      Like, you don’t think Joe Biden first and last “primary” being 40 years apart isnt a good thing?

      Someone that wasn’t born till five years after his first run could have ran against him in his last.

      The guy won once.