If you could voluntarily STOP your taxes going to these wars, you would, right? That’s what I’m doing when I stop buying meat, literally stopping the sale of meat.

But hey, good luck with your preaching for mass suicide I guess. I’ll keep being based here on earth while you waste yourself.

I’m guessing this is your alt account huh. Because your last one got banned? Still speaking with the same monosyllabic single sentence “no-u” I see.

That’s relative privation - appeal to worse problems. It incorrectly assumes that we can or should only care about the current worst suffering and that moral concern is zero sum.

There’s very little I can do to end the wars in Ukraine, Gaza, Iran etc. But I am directly funding and maintaining the meat industry every time I buy meat.

Also don’t kill yourself, that’s cringe. Be based, fight on.

Well that person is literally helping you sleep at night by reducing the planets GHG emissions. You’re welcome I guess?

Yeah currently the difference doesn’t amount to much because we’re still eating livestock, BUT if we stopped eating that livestock, we could return to a more natural Australia where shooting our national animals isn’t a requirement.

As I said, you’re right, eating roos is definitely better, but your argument is an appeal to futility, “I won’t be able to convince everyone to stop eating meat, so I’ll continue doing moral failures”. You could use that argument to continue all horrible injustices, right? “I won’t be able to convince everyone to vote for Labor, so I’ll vote Liberal as well”.

It’s much MUCH easier to convince people to drop meat when you’ve done it yourself, I’ve converted 5 of my friends over the course of my 6 years, two of which are from rural NZ.

Hahaha why do people just spout complete bullshit like they know anything.

A Poore and Nemeck 2008 meta-analysis covering 38,000 farms in 119 countries found that food systems contribute 26% of the planets GHG emissions, of which ~57% comes from animal ag. Meaning this study found ~15% of the entire planets GHG comes from animal ag.

Don’t forget, 70% of the food we grow is fed directly to farm animals instead of humans.

Stop spewing bullshit and look up the data?

Eating planet based obviously != Virtue signalling unless you publically mention it, so there’s that issue solved for you.

But what a lazy and incurious way to live, “I will continue perpetuation moral atrocities while contributing to the destruction of the planet unless daddy government tells me to stop”.

Damn and they call vegans “pussies”.

Why would the industry continue if no one was eating the meat? What a peculiar argument…

A Poorer & Nemecek meta-analysis (2008) found that beef uses 20x more land and produces 10-20x more GHG than alternative meat (like impossible meat or classic fake meat at the supermarket). Lean beef is 26g of protein, plant meat is 25g (plant meat does have half the kilokalories)

I did the research for you! All I ask is that you forever go vegan forever thank you (or maybe just try impossible mince in your spag bol next time, either or)

If everyone decided to stop eating meat today, 10-15% of the entire planets GHG gasses drop, an area the size of all of the Americas can be rewilded (animal ag uses 50-100x the land per kilo of food over plant based), we stop wasting 70% of our antibiotics on animals, the plastic left in the ocean drops by half.

Most things in life you have little control over: you can’t easily stop driving to work, you can’t easily remove all your plastic usage, you can’t easily cut back on your electricity usage.

But you CAN easily cut out animal ag. Like, today. You can just look up plant based recipes for dinner instead of the meat ones. This is entirely consumer choice driven, entirely.

Why would someone proudly glout about that? Like, you saw the OPs image right? It’s one of the worst things a consumer can do for the climate. What a bizarro banner to fly.

Roos are culled mostly because they compete for pasture availability and water access for livestock, especially because we reduced their predators (again, to protect animal livestock).

It’s certainly better to eat roo than cow, but a diet that doesn’t include killing animals at all is objectively better.

The entire worlds cargo ships emit 3% of the planets GHG emissions.

Animal agriculture is 15-20%. It’s equal to the ENTIRE transport sector (cars, trucks, boats, planes etc).

As a consumer you can’t easily change your cargo ship usage, or cars or planes, but you can absolutely change your diet, literally today.

I did! And I grew up on a dairy farm in rural NZ.

I’m a big gimmick guy, I LOVE a good gimmick. I liked my Surface RT with the flat touch keyboard, I liked my Surface Book with the kooky hinge and detachable screen, and I like my Samsung Fold 6.

I flip it open all the time, I like using the GameSir controller on it and turning it into a super emulator, I like watching YouTube on it with the kickstand while I cook, I like actually having one app on the left side, one app on the right.

My god phones got boring, so many dull slabs of glass, it’s just nice to have something EXCITING again.

This ain’t a meme, Pug

Cringe take, sorry bro

Climate Town just released a video about exactly this, how the dairy industry is colluding with the US government to offload cheese onto the American public.

What? What does union organising have to do with consumer responsibility?

My point is that communists love sitting around WAITING for someone to take drastic systemic overhauls, whilst being seemingly unable to control their own consumer habits.

Communists will destroy the planet idly waiting for capitalism to end because “I’m a slave under capitalism, I have to drive everywhere, I have to eat meat”

No, the problem is consumers buying the products.

If everybody refused to use the standing seats, they’d eventually HAVE to get rid of them, there’d be no point in having a chunk of the plane empty.

Communists be like, “we must unite to stop capitalists destroying the planet! Now where’s that planet destroying steak I paid for…”

Then don’t book standing seats?