how hot you’re being about this

“It’s only nuclear war, why is everyone getting all worked up!?”

Weapony that the former USSR had claim to and would have been a justification for intervention.

Hate to break it to ya…

But after the dissolution of the USSR, there wasn’t anymore USSR.

Russia had claim to those weapons, just like the nukes.

Ukraine kept the conventional equipment, and gave up the nukes back to Russia instead.

This isn’t a hypothetical, this is what happened, and if you don’t know what happened, it’s hard to trust you on hypotheticals. Youre making them without all the facts

but at the time the only thing they had were nukes.

Wildly incorrect…

Like just look at any map, Ukraine was the front line to Europe, think about how much military is built up in Texas because it’s a border. Ukraine had a shit ton of all types of weaponry when the USSR dissolved

Yep, anytime it comes up a shit ton of .ml accounts all keep insisting it wasn’t necessary even tho the alternative would have caused more deaths and a shit ton more human suffering while ignoring that it fucking worked even when the Japanese government considered imprisoning the emperor to prevent him from surrending before the bombs were used.

That’s what people don’t get, Japan wasn’t going to surrender. The military had seized control and would 100% continue fighting to the last person, the only thing that stopped them was showing that continuing to fight would leave all of Japan a barren rock.

The complete destruction of their island was the only thing that would have worked.

But as sure as I just said that, it’s all hypotheticals and guesses, no one really knows how much it would have taken without nukes, but every indication is it would have taken a lot.

I… uhh… disagree intensely that Harriet Tubman would meet any of the diagnostic criteria of psychopathy

Well, you also keep using an outdated pop psych term instead of the actual clinical diagnosis…

So my first guess would be you’re not actually familiar with the criteria in the first place.

And youve somehow made it this far without reading any of the things I’ve said:

Callback to my first comment illustrating that if you only study criminals, you’ll only find criminals…

But I assure you that violence was still part of the underground railroad, and there’s no way her hands were clean. Even avoiding physical violence, that kind of only leaves manipulation.

And diagnosis criteria aren’t a checklist where if you don’t get them all, you pass clean.

Like, that’s another thing I’ve already said, it’s not binary, it’s a spectrum like basically everything else.

We did send them aid.

We pledged armies…

30 years ago Ukraine was the 3rd largest nuclear superpower in the world.

They didn’t trade that for a couple crates of old ARs and malfunctioning body armor

Ukraine got a major economic boon from disarming.

Completely wiped out by the multiple Russian invasions…

They traded real security for comfort, and comfort always can be taken away.

It’s almost impossible to get real.security, look at Iran.

Like, there’s no rational reason for a sovereign country not to be developing their own nukes these days. And that’s dangerous

Depending on where the fleet is, this could potentially be done with no direct civilian casualties.

And huge environmental damage leading to indirect death and suffering at a wide scale…

It’s pretty clear cut: the Americans dropped the nuke to primarily rule out Soviet influence as opposed to being a decisive means to end the war

No, that’s from an opinion on a random website it doesn’t prove anything, just tells you the authors opinion…

Your new one agrees with me at least:

To regard Hiroshima as a moral violation is also to condemn the firebombing campaign, which was deliberately aimed at city centres and completely indiscriminate.

But I didn’t bother reading more than you quoted.

Weird…

I thought the peace sign emoji meant you were done.

The primary feature of psychopathy is a pronounced lack of empathy.

“Empathy” isn’t one thing.

There’s the oxytocin system, that’s the “built in” empathy that is variable.

However even people with fully functioning oxytocin systems can lose empathy towards groups. In facts one of the changes males go thru after reproducing is a huge boost in oxytocin which for them also correlates to aggression toward their out-group or “them”.

Someone with significant ASPD doesn’t experience that, and as such they’re likely to be one of the very small section that truly has no racism or bigotry, they just don’t care about those superficial differences.

And while someone with ASPD doesn’t have innate empathy, they’ve been faking it their whole lives, and sometimes “fake it till they make it” to the point they’re the most empathetic and caring person you met. Because they’re actively spending mental resources to keep things moving smoothly, simply to not deal with drama.

I don’t doubt that we live in an unjust society, but I’m yet to see anyone with psychopathy or psychopathic tendencies do anything but make it worse.

Can you point out any examples of psychopathy-spectrum people doing anything useful or important in society?

Callback to my first comment illustrating that if you only study criminals, you’ll only find criminals…

But it’s less that you want to break laws, and more that you believe your personal morals should take presidence.

When someone’s morals exceed their societies, like Harriet Tubman, she meets all the clinical requirements because she gave no fucks that slavery was legal in some states. By the laws in slaves states she was habitually stealing valuable property with zero remorse.

When their morals are lower, they go to jail and get labeled “psychopath” even tho the diagnosis is ASPD.

It’s all frame of reference.

Once we actually get past them being monsters, we’re gonna realize they’re all over the place in varying degrees, and often have zero idea they’re different.

The parallels to how homosexuality was treated will eventually be obvious.

I get paid a lot to be right and say it in ways powerful idiots understand.

Not having to be polite is a relief valve, but it doesn’t mean the information is incorrect.

The smallest “tactical nuke” is orders of magnitude bigger than what was used in Japan and even at their lowest settings would snowball into environmental catastrophe.

You can’t contain an atomic blast. Even what’s left is irradiated and now nuclear waste. Especially any kind of metal, which is probably going to be whatever you nuke.

Being smaller just means idiots are more likely to use them.

Modern tactical nuclear warheads have yields up to the tens of kilotons, or potentially hundreds, several times that of the weapons used in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

They could be dialed down lower, but even a “small” tactical nuke is bigger than what got dropped on Japan.

It is not a “bunker buster” type of munition.

And I have no idea what you’re second rambling source is trying to say.

You clearly believe so…

But that’s not the impression one gets from the words you type.

which would hold weekly group meetings for released sex offenders.

This is the problem with ASPD research…

If you keep looking for something only in groups of criminals, you’re gonna associate it with criminal traits.

Same way when male homosexuality was only looked at from men raping boys.

Article at least gets it right that it’s not a binary condition, but the problem is most traits of ASPD aren’t really bad on their own. So if the patient never breaks the law, they’re very unlikely to ever see a professional and get diagnosed.

It’s just human variation, and everyone underestimates how wide that is. Or how important this group can be in an unjust society where the people who just go along with society’s laws and norms are perpetuating the immoral system.

Yeah, and conventional attacks have also evolved past just dumping napalm from a balloon…

Or attaching small moltovs to bats and releasing them.

Like, nukes getting bigger is better as a dettertent.

That’s the entire point of a deterrent.

Where we fucked up, is who we entrusted the buttons to.

used against civilians

Uhhhh…

I don’t quite know how to break it to you but:

1. There’s no other way to use a nuke, they cover too wide an area.

2. Killing civilians was the norm in WW2, every war before that, and the vast majority of every war since.

Like, if the nukes on Japan wouldn’t have been dropped, it would have had to be more firebombing and then a ground invasion.

Firebombings which still had a higher kill count in Japan than both nukes combined.

The entire point of a nuke, is that all it takes is a single one to wipe out entire square miles of a city. There’s no way to do that without civilian casualties, and it’s only a matter of time until one gets thru defenses.

Anyone who didn’t learn that lesson from Ukraine is a fucking idiot

They had nukes, and gave them away after assurances if Russia invaded they’d be defended.

Instead we left them out to dry and started another war instead

Don’t worry. We got a 23 year old landscaper on it!

Just kidding, he also has prior government experience of working in a Model UN! That’s totally relevant experience and absolutely no one should question if this admin is really just trying to let an attack happen to justify cancelling midterms…

I can’t tell if the author is ignorant or really think “posting knowledge” to social media isn’t just handing it to AIs…

Like they even take a break in the article to defend people who take low paying jobs training AI and that how it’s actually a good deal for people who don’t have a job.

It’s like when a 9 year old learns what reverse psychology is and does a shit job at it.

Everything the author said just gets AI free or cheap training.

Well ,thanks for linking what you meant or even mentioning it.

Because surely you’re just not talking out of your ass

Gallup literally stopped once it was 27% with no indication of the drop halting…

Sometimes I overestimate how long ago something was, but I swear that was weeks ago