Support among House Democrats for impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is skyrocketing, nearly doubling in the last week to 100 co-sponsors.
That’s an unprecedented level of support for an impeachment effort during President Trump’s second term, with lawmakers who have bristled at the topic in the past now warming to the idea.
Kelly is urging Republicans to get on board with her efforts — even as no GOP lawmaker has come close to expressing support for Noem’s impeachment.
“As Secretary Noem continues to lie, obstruct Congress, and violate people’s civil rights, the support for her impeachment only grows,” she said.
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The fact that this is not a party line vote for democrats shows you how completely amoral the Democratic leadership is.
This has not been voted on to my knowledge. This article is just about the cosigners officially submitting the bill.
This doesn’t matter. It wont get a vote in the house or the senate without republican support. Republicans still refuse to defy their cult leader, so nothing will change until they either realize they are going to prison, or that they will lose all of their money.
The only things politicians care about is money and control, they refuse to lose both.
It doesn’t even have full democrat support.
This is more kayfabe, this isn’t real. We have ONE party in power, with two public facing personas.
I wish people actually looked at the money and realized that republicans and democrats all have the SAME FUCKING DONORS.
If we want to beat this, we have to flush every incumbent out of office and start fresh. We need community and organization and grassroots like they did in New York but all over the goddamn nation.
Not true
Oh that’s a good point. Didn’t think of that.
The democrats are totally feckless
Send her ass to the hauge
Hey I mean we could use a trebuchet, but I guess impeachment is… fine…
But they won’t even consider defunding ICE.
They literally will and are.
That’s good to hear. Last I had heard, leadership was against the idea.
And absolutely nothing will happen. Nice job America!
It seems a little silly to me that they are talking about impeaching her, but not also Trump. Like who do they think she will be replaced with? My bet is someone worse. If Trump didn’t want what ICE is doing they wouldn’t be doing it.
That’s simply because impeaching trump is a lot harder. They are in fact talking about it too tho
Removing either is equally as hard, requiring a simple majority.
Both having the same vote requirements doesn’t mean they’re equally hard
Either requires republicans to break rank and suffer the same consequences from the party leadership.
No, a simple majority is needed in order for the House to impeach. A supermajority in the Senate is then needed to convict.
A simple majority in both to do anything that will have any effect on policy, eg not theater.
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Third time’s the charm!
It’s all performance.
If the Democrats didn’t want ICE and domestic chaos that will pave the way for more corporate involvement in all our lives, it wouldn’t have happened.
We have one party with two narrative faces. They all have the same donors, they all serve the same masters. The rest is just WWE theatrics.
“if Democrats didn’t want ICE and domestic chaos it wouldn’t have happened”
This is absolute bullshit. When democrats controlled the white house and Senate this didn’t happen. The parties are not the same and the constant refrain that they are is a malicious lie. The only beneficiaries of this kind of both sides FUD are the nazis.
There were more deportations under Dems, the difference between the parties is how they present themselves and what methods they go about plunging the nation into neo-liberalism. I implore you not to be naive about this very, very well-established system for manipulating the attitudes and feelings of a half billion people.
I am not saying don’t empower Democrats, the DNC is just a container, we vote out the previous contents of that container and put new contents in. It has worked before and we need to do it again.
Unless you actually, truly, in your heart believe that Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and their contemporaries are looking out for you. If you do, I can’t help you, but I’m sure they will hear your support when you’re in the camps.
Did I say anything good about Chuck schumer or Jeffries?
I think I said Schumer was a corporate shill that needs to be primaried. They are both genocide enablers and should be run out of Congress.
They are both genocide enablers and should be run out of Congress
Exactly.
Now what about all the other dems who follow DNC leadership who were “just following orders?”
Have you watched major votes on policy? Dems are complicit either in leadership or as a whole, but it doesn’t matter because if you follow evil orders you are also evil.
I gave a path to success. What is your suggestion?
No you didn’t, at least not to me. I was the one giving prescriptive statements (Vote out all incumbent democrats, elect new people who represent our values and aren’t beholden to the same donors) you just pushed back on it like I was suggesting we elect more Republicans.
Civil disobedience is the only answer going forward.
Start forming your own governments with your own laws. Ignore the ‘legitimacy’ of the US oligarchy as much as possible.
It’s all symbolic, which is what DC Democrats specialize in. We have a one-party authoritarian state, and the Ruling Party will never allow it.
I can’t understand why people don’t see this. Democrats in the minority sure are fighters, but oh darn, they just don’t have the numbers, so vote harder next time! Democrats in the majority suddenly have to be super diplomatic, lest they ruffle feathers across the aisle and lose cooperation with the political party that rarely cooperates. Keep voting hard and they’ll get there, eventually!
wait a second this is starting to sound like a .ml community.
This is in fact true. If people voted for Democrats overwhelmingly and then primaried the DINOS like fetterman and the corporate shills like Newsom and Shumer we would see the change we want eventually. FDR did it. He did it with supermajorities in both houses of Congress and he also needed 4 terms to remake the supreme court.
It’s a generational project, and supremely unlikely to happen because a significant part of the electorate does not want it. But it could happen. If voters shifted 30 points to the left and stayed there for a generation it would happen.
100% agree, that’s my (not so) secret political fantasy - everyone working together to better their lives and those of others. Instead, we got whatever 2026 is turning into.
Krusty Gnome is a birdlegged ho
No excuse to be below 100%
Greed tho
Could be a strange form of nihilism where you are just looking to salt the earth after the ashes.
I now think Republicans welcome climate change to unlock shipping channels
The excuse that I’ve heard is that it’s the Democrats’ fault for making people throw away their vote.
None of this was necessary.
Neom wasn’t voted in. And your comment has nothing to do with the topic anyways.
Noem was selected by who was voted in. You see that, right? Having to impeach her is damage control from letting trump win. That’s on topic AF.
Yes yes
We tried to warn you that genocide was a losing issue.
You were so devoted to netanyahu that you didn’t care.
But she needed those millions in lobbyist bribes! Who cares if America falls to Trump when money was to be made.
Yes, thank goodness we saved Gaza by keeping those dems out of office.
Do you get that literally has nothing to do with what we are talking about here?
Yes, thank goodness we saved Gaza by keeping those dems out of office.
Harris lost because the voters felt alienated. You may not care. You may not think that matters. At the end of the day, it did.
The voters voted for childcare. They voted for family leave. They voted for rescheduled cannabis. They voted for a minimum wage increase. They gave the party enough seats to do what Biden campaigned on, and then watched the clearest display of utter disregard for the voice of the people we’ve seen in decades. The voters saw a party that knew what they wanted, knew how to help them, and chose not to.
The voters wanted justice for January 6. They got a justice department chaired by a republican with no concept of urgency. The voters saw a party that was uninterested in pursuing justice against insurrectionists.
The voters did not vote for the foreign policy they got from Biden. They did not vote for unconditional support for genocide. At this point, we were almost 3 years into a Biden presidency that wasn’t going to help them. The voters saw who the party was willing to help.
Then the voters saw the party sue as many opponents off the primary ballot as they could. They saw the party try to pretend that a primary where only one candidate was on the ballot in all 50 states was somehow a competitive honest primary. The voters saw who the party was willing to fight against, and it wasn’t Republicans.
When it became clear that Biden was not up to the task before him, they appointed Harris nominee without anything approaching input from the people. The voters saw a party leadership abusing an old man in order to cling to power they refused to wield, and a party willing to disregard the will of the people so thoroughly that they didn’t even bother asking anymore.
But even that wasn’t enough. When people started griping that they couldn’t afford groceries, the messaging from the party could not have been more tone deaf. Telling people whose lives are getting worse that things are improving is asking them to buy something contrary to what they are feeling, sometimes literally on a visceral level. Democratic voters are not as willing to deny the evidence of their senses as Republican voters are. They saw a party that expected them to buy bullshit instead of groceries.
And then Harris said she wasn’t going to differ from Biden in any significant way. Which dashed any hopes of anything improving.
And then Democrats adopted Republican border policy. Which wasn’t enough for Republicans, naturally, but it alienated even more people Democrats needed. Voters saw a party that was willing to abandon vulnerable people and get nothing out of it.
If Democrats had been actively trying to alienate every voter who was even remotely willing to vote for them, they couldn’t have done much worse.
Then the election happened and Democrats blamed the voters. Well, we’re back where we started on this. Only now the electorate doesn’t trust Democrats.
And it’s not like Democrats have been doing much to regain their trust. The party ousted David Hogg. Party leadership campaigned against their own nominee in New York City after more than a decade of “blue no matter who.” Centrists’ darling Newsom is going on a capitulation tour, letting Charlie Kirk know that he agrees with him about trans people, and letting Ben Shapiro know that he doesn’t think the genocide in Gaza happened. And this is what centrists expect their base to vote for. After a primary no one seriously believes will be honest.
Oh, those unreasonable spoiled voters. We give and give and give and they still stay home.
Strawman argument. People didnt abstain from voting for Harris because it would “save” Gaza. They did it because both candidates shared the common ideal of bombing Gaza to smithereens and they refused to support that.
It’s incredibly disgusting for people like you to now mock others for opposing genocide just because your preferred candidate thought that supporting slaughter was more important than defeating her opponent and it all blew up in her face.
Maybe you should hitch your wagon to better candidates if you don’t want to be disappointed. That’s on you not anyone else. Even now more than a year after the election was decided, you still think standing alongside genocide and Dick Cheney was the right call and can’t understand why you lost. You are the company you keep, buddy.
You make a good argument but I always get nervous when someone says “people like you”. It sounds kind of arrogant/superior. If that was your intention then so be it.
This person is using the slaughter of innocent men, women, and children as a tool to mock others all because they’re mad that a stranger didn’t win a contest. I don’t see what they’re doing as any different than what Republicans are doing now in comment sections across the internet over the murder of Renee Good.
This user and those Republicans share a lot more ideologically than either would care to admit, so I have no problem with my comment sounding arrogant/superior to their abhorrent behavior.
This is a perfect example of why they’re losing support. Less than half of them even support this despite there being zero repercussions from doing so. Remember when Republicans held 60+ separate votes to eliminate “Obamacare” throughout Obama’s second term despite them not having a majority to guarantee passage of the bill and it seeming completely fruitless? Look where they are ten years later and tell me which is the more effective approach.
Killing people is even more effective. Why aren’t they doing that either?
Probably spineless cowards!
Less than half of them even support this despite there being zero repercussions from doing so.
Well that’s just not true, unless they’re representing a solid blue area. You think Alabama, Arizona, Texas, or Washington Democrats aren’t going to get ‘repurcussions’ from their constituencies for impeaching the head of DHS? Why aren’t they socialist firebrands?
Well, the better question is why aren’t any socialist firebrands in office? (Yes, fine, Bernie. He’s from Texas, right?)
So your argument boils down to “Democrats shouldn’t oppose Trump & Co because it might hurt their chances at reelection?” What kind of nonsense is that?
There are no repercussions because they don’t have the numbers to actually get an impeachment without Republicans joining forces with them, which is unlikely to happen but even a potentially fruitless endeavor is better than sitting by doing absolutely nothing while the nation burns in front of our eyes.
Politics only happens with an election, so yeah that’s usually an omnipresent factor in pushing legislation. No, it’s not great.
And you do know he was already impeached twice, right. Once for staging a coup?
If there’s no chance in hell of getting out of the House (much less getting over the Senate) it’s not going to happen.
Yes, it should happen. Yes every single one of them should throw him out. They’re not going to. Yet.
Politics only happens with an election
This statement doesn’t make any sense.
And you do know he was already impeached twice, right. Once for staging a coup?
Yes.
If there’s no chance in hell of getting out of the House (much less getting over the Senate) it’s not going to happen.
Well then it must follow that there’s no reason to oppose anything he does and that we should be satisfied with that, right? Democrats should only go after the easy wins and instant gratification because nobody will remember any of this at any point in the future.
Yes, it should happen. Yes every single one of them should throw him out. They’re not going to. Yet.
So you think this should happen and this should be how things work yet argue against both those points for some faith-based future reward? If they’re not doing this now or at any point in the past, why would they do it in the future? What exactly would compel them to change their behavior if current events aren’t enough?
Well then it must follow that there’s no reason to oppose anything he does and that we should be satisfied with that, right?
Absolutely not. And that’s a weird jump to make.
So you think this should happen and this should be how things work yet argue against both those points for some faith-based future reward?
Yes to the former, nope to the latter. I’m saying the real world is significantly more complicated than rageposting on the intertubes. Like, sure we all wish all the nazis were dead, but getting there is gonna take more than tapping it out on a phone keyboard. And very possibly going on a killing spree by one or more of us is not the optimal way to move that particular project forward, you see? That’s just a hypothetical example, but you get my point there.
What exactly would compel them to change their behavior if current events aren’t enough?
Well, having the votes might be a good start. Professional political people do this thing called a “whip count” where the go around and ask everyone how their day is going, and oh those are great shoes and by-the-by would you vote for bill #12345? And if they don’t have enough votes to get the thing passed, sometimes they’ll redirect their efforts into other things. (Stupid republicans will still have the vote fifty or sixty times because they can’t figure out a better plan.)
So that’s a big one. Now if they just want to grandstand, maybe read a little Dr. Suess on C-SPAN, sure. “The People” would get the benefit of that speech, but little else.
And that’s if the Senate feels like doing a goddamned thing, which - unlikely, right? So just go out front, go on any show that’ll have you and talk about how he should be impeached. But that’s all that would happen.
The repercussions for those democrats would be greater numbers of people voting for them in the future. Arizona and Texas have more population that are vulnerable to dhs attacks, so any house members against the impeachment are acting against their constituents. Sure the state government won’t like it, but it would at least be something they do for the people.
The repercussions for those democrats would be greater numbers of people voting for them in the future.
Oh how I wish that was so. We just lost the most important election of our lifetimes because that isn’t so. Maybe some of our louder non-voters want to weigh in on that.
I’m saying that if Democrats fight for the people, they will see better voting outcomes. What does that have to do with the last election? Democrats didn’t fight for us from 2020-2024, so they lost voters, which is complimentary to my point.
It was great that Biden’s policies helped slow down inflation, but that’s pretty much all they did. There were no consequences for treason, no big investigations, no major reforms of the political system, no safeguards for rights put into place. The last thing a major Democrat did in TX was when Obama had tacos in Austin over 10 years ago.
Look at the voting record and it echoes my point.
In 2004, Bush 4.5 million, Kerry 2.8 million
In 2008, McCain 4.5 million, Obama 3.5 million after Obama ran a campaign about a better future giving us something to vote for
In 2010, the ACA passed
In 2012, Romney 4.6 million, Obama 3.3 million McConnell succeeded in preventing a lot of Democrat proposals from being passed and the democrats weren’t able to fulfill a lot of things during the tike before this election
In 2016, Trump 4.7 million, Clinton 3.9 million Marriage Equality had recently passed and Democrats proposed the Equality Act and were very vocal about the potential consequences of an election loss
In 2020, Trump 5.9 million, Biden 5.3 million, Democrats made promises and said they would fight for rights. Many democrats aligned themselves with protests and even with some tonedeaf messaging, attempted to show a united front against the chaos
In 2022, women lost the right to bodily autonomy In 2023, Women’s Health Protection Act was introduced but went nowhere
In 2024, Trump 6.4 million, Harris 4.8 million after democrats revealed the United front was a ruse and failed to follow through on issues that won them the 2020 election even though the threat of chaos was even worse than we had seen in 2020.
I’m saying that if Democrats fight for the people, they will see better voting outcomes.
I’d prefer they fight for the people either way, but the problem is “fighting for the people” is pretty subjective. Did they or did they not is a subjective opinion about which we only know what is public.
Democrats didn’t fight for us from 2020-2024, so they lost voters, which is complimentary to my point.
I’d say that’s a valid opinion, though one I don’t particularly share. They got some Big Shit Done for the gridlock that is Congress, imo.
Look at the voting record and it echoes my point.
I see you’re referring to Texas specifically which is fine, I was just confused at first.
The main problem with saying these numbers validate my opinion is that there’s no way to prove it one way or the other, and so you may be right, I may be crazy but I don’t see the numbers making the point that Democrats (in Texas? For Texas? Of Texas?) did or did not “fight for the people”.
In 2008, McCain 4.5 million, Obama 3.5 million after Obama ran a campaign about a better future giving us something to vote for
First off, it’s Texas, but secondly Obama was a superstar candidate with -at the time- limited experience. And he came after eight long terra-terra-terra years of -at the time- The Worst President in History. His getting higher numbers than Kerry (again, in Texas, with the global financial markets hanging by a thread under Bush the Dubz) doesn’t have anything to do with ‘fighting fir the people’.
I could go on, but I’d have the same arguments about some of the other numbers and you get my point.
What we don’t have numbers for are the votes that candidates didn’t get after ‘fighting for the people’, which again is a subjective call that could mean a bunch of different things.
Based strictly on Primaries and the platforms different candidates have, the most ‘fight for the people’ candidates don’t win - sometimes they don’t win a lot. And yes we can talk about how they screwed Bernie but that’s ultimately a side issue; lots of “fight for the people” candidates have lost in the primaries - including non-screwed Bernie.
It’s (a) subjective and (b) not a sure thing by any stretch. US politics is gnarly, and Jesus Christ by any other name would lose Texas to Romney.
We just lost the most important election of our lifetimes because that isn’t so.
We lost that election because both the Republican and Democratic candidates thought pushing right wing ideology was the best tactic. Turns out that only works for one of the party’s base.
And all the people not voting against trump.
It will change nothing, but still should be done for our collective conscience and historic record that we didn’t want this
The only thing this will show is which Democrats will side with Noem and/or Trump.
I that is an important metric
