• MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works
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    “Insurrectionists carrying foreign flags are attacking immigration enforcement officers, while one half of America’s political leadership has decided that border enforcement is evil,” Vice President JD Vance said in a post on X Saturday night.

    Big yikes. “Insurrectionists”? Bloody hell.

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        Conservatism was the original reactionary movement, and it essentially sought to restore the nobility within democracy, complete with the different rules applying to said ingroup. Modern conservatism only differing in the sense that its supporters really want to become part of said ingroup.

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    I don’t get it

    Why do you want to prevent ICE from deporting illegal immigrants?

    Why do you want illegal immigrants to stay here so bad?

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      Alright, I’ll bite.

      Because I would much rather ICE spend its resources preventing IMs from entering the country, rather than rounding up IMs who have been living here peacefully for 20+ years.

      Because—and I’m willing to debate the utility of this—a significant portion of our agricultural economy depends on IMs who will work below the standard of living legally required for our citizens.

      Because the vast majority of IMs are just people seeking asylum from cartels and/or horrible dictatorial governments and are not a threat to the American way of life.

      Because IMs by and large do not “steal” jobs from American workers but rather do jobs most Americans would never consider doing. See said issue with our agricultural sector.

      Now, let’s hear your reasons for wanting to spend the immense amount of money necessary to find and deport these people. Because I’m sure your arguments are incredibly well thought out.

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      Because the current purge is rooted in racism, not legality. They’re deporting American citizens and people who are here legally as well without due process, blatantly violating the constitution which he swore to defend and uphold.

      Trump wants to deport anyone he doesn’t like, which includes anyone that doesn’t like him. Make no mistake, he would deport half the country if he felt he could get away with it. He has no regard for the rule of law and has proven that time and again. What he is doing is tyranny and the real patriots are out there standing up against it.

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    Anyone remember what this was from?

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

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        Well then everyone the conservatives don’t like need to start arming up before they realize the gun control they always wanted exists, but only to keep “mental ill” people from buying them and the only things considered illnesses are things conservatives don’t like.

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      Yeah, But it was never intended to stop things from happening from the inside. Whoever ends up on the opposite side of the military in the end is going to lose.

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        It depends on how many people end up on the opposite side. Tens, hundreds, for sure. Thousands, likely. Tens of thousands, not so certain. Hundreds of thousands, I don’t know. If the army starts shooting to kill any significant numbers of Americans, things are going to get very interesting.

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      I mean the Nazis aren’t going to go ohh my bad we should have another try at the election.

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      Well, we won’t call it that. Vietnam was techincally “a police action”, but we all know it was a war. This police action will get folks killed in an effort to take prisoners, which sure sound like a…

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    So glad I never joined the National Guard cause I would definitly refuse to go, and if forced, join the side of of the ones fighting ICE.

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    Holy fuck. Some finally have the balls to stand up and fight and a bunch of you are all…this is wrong. Escalation and violence is not ok…or…but they have so many big guns.

    Your country is run by a fucking dictator. Your own people are being forcefully removed from their homes and families and put in concentration camps.

    Unbelievable.

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    Well, we always knew #RATM were right, but no one expected yet another playbook decades after this album was released in 1999. It all feels that unreal… 😔

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      “I liked them before they got all political” – Some Republican dumbass.

      I can only assume they thought Bulls on Parade was about a family holiday to the beach.

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    If this turns into an American Tiananmen Square, you’re going to end up knocking a star off that flag.

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      It depends on whether we’re allowed to talk about it in 5 years.

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      Most of the people on this site that cheer this on also happen to be the ones who think that the Tiananmen Square massacre didn’t happen, and if it did then it was a good thing.

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    “…The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this. Try.*

    -Karis Nemik, Andor

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      Threaten the 4th largest economy in the world with leverage you don’t really have. Encourage escalation tactics for illegal detainment of peoples under the jurisdiction and protection of the Constitution. Ignore the Constitution and normalize the absurd use of the term deportation. Cry about it on social media and then throw a fit and send troops to peaceful protests ( as per LAPD ).

      Frail ideology.

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      When I was seven, I learned a lesson from Cube and Eazy-E What was it again? Oh yeah, fuck the police

      I was actually a teenager but the sentiment…

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      +1…The original boombox used tape cassettes and most with two for playing and recording. Don’t forget your roller skates too.

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      Could i interest you in a very loud WOOP WOOP. That’s the sound of the police. Or possibly a WOOP WOOP. That’s the sound of the beast.