• quack@lemmy.zip
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    Everything I’ve ever learned about Ed Sheeran has been against my will.

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    I’m starting to get annoyed that Sheeran is getting all the hate, save an equal amount for kraft, people…

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      Shareen did perform at kraft’s wedding, so hes pretty complicit, and likely is getting all these sweet venue deals because of kraft.

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      Others like Kraft will not change if they see consequences. They will double down. Others like ES will see this and recognize they can’t sit idle or try to “be neutral” in today’s world without consequence, and there is a chance they will change.

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      We are supposed to expect better for Sheeran, or at least he makes out to be decent

      People like Kraft we expect to be dog shit.

      Sheeran deserves it…at any time he could stand for something.

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      I’m annoyed that none of this really matters but it’s all I’m hearing about right now.

      The WMD’s make their way to Israel and their genocide continues unimpeded.

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      He deserves it. Check out some of the comments on Macklemore’s YouTube videos. Many of the repeated comments are calling out Sheeran saying “being silent in the face of oppression is choosing the side of the oppressor.” They are right, and a lot of people need to be called out in the same way, and feel the weight of their supposed neutrality. It’s about time some of these “apolitical” arseholes felt some heat.

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        Well said.

        Apolitical = complicit.

        Fuck Ed “I’m not complicit” Sheeran.

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          Apolitical= really means i am conservative, but i want to keep the “peace” and not BITE THE HAND THAT feeds me.

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          Exactly. We need to make it uncomfortable to be apolitical. Only those with the most privilege can afford to be apolitical and we clearly have the power to change that.

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      Kraft is a pos and doesn’t care about us and we can’t affect him much.

      People like Sheeran have reach and can actually affect people like Kraft, and Sheeran chose not to do so.

      this is a warning to other people of influence. be like Macklemore, not like Sheeran. use your influence for good, not to ignore evil.

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      They can both be pieces of shit. We don’t have to choose just one.

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      He doesn’t deserve hate but he showed that he is very out of touch from reality on a sensitive topic.

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      dint he grow up wealthy at least thats what i heard. of anything rich children who grew up with rich parents, never want to be “poor”

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        There’s very few people who have made it to where he is in the music industry who didn’t. Not for any particularly nefarious reason (although there’s usually a bit of nepotism involved as these things often go), but because working in the music industry fucking sucks. You make almost no money when coming up and balancing a full time job with recording and playing shows means you miss out on opportunities all the time. Coming from a rich family who can support you while you focus on music full time drastically increases your chances.

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    Kraft said in a statement on Instagram: “I have dedicated much of my life to building bridges between all people. I believe deeply that all lives are worth protecting.

    That’s like saying ‘all lives matter’ in response to the Black Lives Matter movement; it’s disrespectful of the point being made.

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      I hate how the Right can’t understand context.

      “What? You think only Black Lives Matter? ALL LIVES MATTER! Wait I’m the bad guy for saying all lives matter? What the fuck?” - The Right said not understanding what Black Lives Matter means

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      israel lives matter more to him. he became salty and got a bunch of other stadiums to ban macklemore. Oh and Kraft is on EPstein files too. apparently ed shareens manager is also in it?

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      Kraft is an Epstein customer and human trafficking expert. Lowest of the low.

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      What bridges has he built, I wonder.

      “Oh well this one time I built a bridge between my accountant, and my finance guy, and this stadium I wanted to buy”

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        i only ever heard white people(who are racists) use the term of reverse racism, its likely they need to be a victim.

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        He very literally tried to pull a “I can’t be racist, I have black friends” because he’s worked with a couple people who happen to be Palestinian

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          You are technically correct; people can absolutely be racist against white people.

          Now I’ll explain why you’re being downvoted anyway.

          “Black Lives Matter” became a slogan because police disproportionately target black people. They stop and question black people at a far higher rate than is warranted by actual crimes, they arrest people at a far higher rate than white people, and they kill black people at a far higher rate than they kill black people.

          The statement is very obviously not just a literal statement on the value of human life; it’s an accusation that police seem to think black lives don’t matter. “All Lives Matter” simply pretends to be ignorant of the entire background and reasoning behind the phrase.

          Israeli’s have been massacring Palestinians and leveling their cities. They have inflicted orders of magnitude more suffering on Palestinians in the last years than Hamas has during its entire existence. The only way to equate the two is if you believe that Palestinian lives are worth significantly less than Israeli lives, and yes, that would be racist.

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            I think people assume I’m saying that white people are victims of systemic racism, which is not at all what I said.

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              I don’t have the sociological definition of racism at my fingertips, but IIRC it includes the need for a power imbalance, which is generally why people push back when folks say that minority groups can be racist against against white people. Our entire country was (arguably still is to a large degree) set up to where there is a huge power imbalance in favor of white people.

              If you just want to make the very real point that white people are victims of bigotry also sometimes, rather than get into this repetitive debate about whether there can be racism against white people, IMO you can just say “bigotry” or “racial prejudice” and carry the same message you intend to without having to have this tired debate about whether white people can experience racism.

              Unless you aren’t tired of the tired debate, but I know I sure am.

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              This is like having a conversation about menstruation, and then men being like, “I get cuts sometimes”.

              No one fucking cares, if you’re talking about white racism, you’re just being self centered.

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              People don’t care, they make up whatever they want to feel good about themselves. The definition of “racism” has no specific race, it’s like murder, it’s murder if xyz criteria are met.

              If an African American doesn’t hire ANYONE based off race/skin color, it’s racism, period. Even if it’s other African Americas. Caucasians aren’t magically excluded regardless of how bad you want them to be. Typically, at least in my experience in education, most African Americans are happy with racism as long as it’s in their benifit, because they have some weird ass belief that it’s impossible for them to be racist somehow.

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          Yeah that’s just called racism. White people don’t get a special prefix when it happens to them.

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              If that had been your point, you would never have felt it necessary to say that “reverse” racism is a thing.

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              It isn’t at all. Your “point” is that you’re somehow unable to understand the meaning of the word racism. Look and think about the word, it’s not “Anyone but whiteism”. The skin color or whatever else doesn’t matter, racism is racism no matter who it’s against. It’s just astounding how fucking dumb you gotta be to reply like you have to a comment chain about “all lives matter” in response to BLM, all you’ve managed to do is show everyone you’re just as stupid and ignorant as the people who say that.

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          But it is a thing… People can absolutely be racist against white people.

          It’s not a thing. If someone hates another person based on their race, that’s racism. This idea that it only applies to hate towards black people is very much a US only issue. The rest of the world understands that racism towards any person is wrong.

          Technically you could argue that “reverse racism” would be explicitly liking someone based entirely on their race, and nothing else. But even that’s a stupid way of looking at it.

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            The rest of the world understands that racism towards any person is wrong.

            They understand that it’s just called racism, but it’s not universally seen as wrong. There are a lot of countries with significant racial prejudice, besides the US. Thinking it just doesn’t exist elsewhere is naive.

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            I was responding under the assumption that the statement about reverse racism was saying that it’s impossible for people to be racist against white people.

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                  And I’m not saying you’re technically wrong, but you’re “all lives matter”ing it. It’s not the topic here so you bringing it up implies that you really want it to be heard regardless of the topic at hand and it makes you sound like a racist prick.

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              You don’t have to be rude, they are literally using the word racism as defined by dictionaries. There are two separate definitions usually listed, one is belief in a races superiority over others, the other is the systemic bias against a racial group. Since 2020 at least it’s been common that people have used it to mean specifically only the second definition and use other terms like racial prejudice for things like prejudice against white people but it’s used that way still plenty.

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          I thought reverse racism was like… when you overcorrect for discrimination and end up discriminating against white people? Not just being racist against white people.

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            No, it’s apparently white people who think they’re being systemically discriminated against.

            I incorrectly thought it was more of a way of saying that you can’t be racist against white people.

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          No, they actually can’t be. Because “white” is not a race.

          Look up the history of that term. Most of the people who are white now would not have been 100 years ago. And still no one can agree whether hispanic means white or not.

          ETA: The whole idea of race is a social construct and a fantasy with no basis in reality, much less biology. By stating that “white” is not a race, I did not mean to imply that the idea of race is legitimate.

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          True, but how many places are there where they both make up a significant part of the society AND that’s a prevailing enough attitude to cause them actual harm?

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            I wasn’t talking about systemic racism. I was talking about individuals being racist towards other individuals.

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          The point is that racism is hate because of race. People that are oppressed by a certain race hate that race because of the oppression, not the race. It’s not racism by definition.

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            Hating people who have nothing to do with your oppression because of their skin color is racist. Full stop.

            It’s like saying men can’t be raped because women are the majority of victims.

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              No not full stop. That’s not an equivalent comparison at all and it really disturbs me that so many people agree with you. What an egregious oversimplification.

              A crime is a crime. I’m not saying oppression gives a get out of jail free card. Hurting an innocent person is still wrong, but being afraid of an unknown person who is a member of a race that is predominantly cruel to you? Understandable. Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree? As a member of an oppressed race you exist in a world not too dissimilar to the movie “They Live.”

              How can you know who is and isn’t your ally? It’s safer to assume they aren’t.

              There is a lot of nuance to this very complicated subject.

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                Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree?

                No, that is pure nonsense. It is not a “race” who is oppressing anybody. It is certain groups of people, usually a political and economical elite who are doing the oppressing. Conflating it with race (which is not even a real concept) is the epitome of racism and directing efforts at the wrong reasons. Oppressors love that kind of bigoted stuff, because it causes people to miss the actual factors of oppression.

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                Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree?

                I’m not who you are replying to but that sounds racist and I don’t agree you should attribute bad behavior to a race. There’s better and more accurate ways to attribute bad behavior, basing it on racial identities is inherently racist in my book, and inherently misleading.

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      To the quote you attached: He created funnels attached to people wallets; not bridges.

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    Every time I think I’ve head the last there’s more. I’m waiting for the next one to say Ed Sheeran run through high speed rotating blades over MM situation.

    I don’t love him not taking the moral side, but he’s getting cooked because he doesn’t want to stand up to his keepers.

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      he’s getting cooked because he doesn’t want to stand up to his keepers.

      And because he threw his friend under the bus rather than stand up and use the power he has and lastly because history will judge him complicit through silence.

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        History will judge him as complicit in silencing Mackelmore while spreading genocide denial as justification.

        He didn’t just be silent because his money was threatened, he made the decision to kick Macklemore of his tour (silence him). He isn’t just a coward who stands by and says nothing, he’ll cover your mouth and pull you back to prevent you from speaking.

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        Let’s get throught the people not speaking with silence then come back to that. The fucking active players are the real problem and using people are proxy to do something about it is weak.

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    I think most stations stopped playing him voluntarily ages ago

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    Thank you Palestine and Macklemore for standing up to keep this Zionist scum off the radio 🙏 now only if YouTube and Spotify would grow some balls

    😂 as if

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    I’m looking forward to removing his cameo from GoT. It won’t fix the series but it’ll make the last seasons slightly better.

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      Nah GoT deserves him. GRRM deserves this after selling out and abandoning the readers who supported his series for years. I don’t ever see myself watching the show again. Maybe the first 3 seasons.

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          lol ya The love hate I have for GoT is strong. In 4 days I watched season 1 twice. Once by myself and once with my gf. The early seasons retain much more of the 1st person perspective that made GRRMs world building a unique reading experience.

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        If you want a good fantasy series to read Malazan Book of the Fallen is way better anyway and finished.

        And it gets better on a second read because you notice how many things that pay off in the Crippled God are set up way back in Gardens of the Moon

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          I started reading the first book, got like a third of the way in, then life got in the way. Thanks for reminding me! Gonna start over now

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            As a big Malazan fan, just know you’re not alone if you sometimes find yourself feeling puzzled on your first read. I had to read several chapters of the first book twice to really get it. Subsequent books went much more smoothly.

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        I wouldn’t call it selling out. He didn’t abandon the books because of the series. He didn’t know how the books will end. Luckily for him he doesn’t have to end them as the HBO series set him up for life.

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          He didn’t know how the books will end.

          That’s impossible because he both provided the show writers with ending plot points in 2013 and has said multiple times that the books would end differently than the show.

          Luckily for him he doesn’t have to end them as the HBO series set him up for life.

          You and I have very different operating definitions of “selling out”.

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            You don’t see an issue with your logic here? He gave the show some pointers on how to end it…knowing that’s what he didn’t want to end it with and knowing the books would end differently. That doesn’t mean he knows how the books are going to end. That means he has chosen one way the books are not going to end and the ways they can end are literally every other possible option.

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              He’s not going to finish the book series. Him taking a payday and leaving his fans who supported his writing career hanging is selling out.

              Anyone who read the books would know why I’m upset. You clearly did not.

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                I was responding to the first part you said about being impossible that he doesn’t know how the books will end. Your response was not actually a response to me at all. You can be upset all you want, that’s irrelevant.

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                  So, you inserted yourself into a conversation you were not a part of, on a subject you don’t know anything about about … to be an asshole?

                  I’ll be removing you from my lemmy experience now. Clearly you’ve run out of positive contributions

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    man, I hope this is widespread and permanent. Let us never hear his music again.