He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien. ICE using a mobile biometrics app in ways its developers at CBP never intended or tested is a frightening, repugnant, and unconstitutional attack on Americans’ rights and freedoms.”

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        They are so mentally gone and isolated I truly dont think they believe anything weird is going on, besides from they’re usual distrust of the government and being happy “the dangerous criminals” are in prison.

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      Yeah but they were afraid of it being used on them in the fictional war on Christianity. Its perfectly fine when it’s used on someone else.

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        Nah at the time they weren’t too religious about it, more so they didn’t want to be forced into society and forced to take Tylenol or be radiated by those dang mind control 5G towers.

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          Hmm, seems like it’s just missing the low IR cutoff filter, so you could mod any dSLR to do the same. I can’t tell if it sees through masks well enough for facial recognition though.

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            Facial recognition probably relies on visible wavelengths, but you could probably train a neural network to plausibly convert an IR image to visible if paired with a visible light image of the unmasked portion. While generated images on their own aren’t useful for recognition, I think an IR image would probably give enough information to make the generation useful.

            All face recognition is unreliable though, so no one, especially not a government agency, should use it as a single point of proof about the actual identity of the photographed person.

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              TSA and Customs both scan your face instead of your ID/ passport now for adults. It seems like the government has confidence in it?

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                They know who you claim to be and are checking whether your face matches that passport photo. They’re not just letting anyone in who looks like one of the 330M Americans.

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            Unlikely, without special enhancement. Those materials are not IR-transparent.

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                Firstly, you should say please when you’re asking for something.

                The claim was made as if they know exactly the materials the thugs’ gaiters are made of. Unless they are an insider of that group, it’s way too presumptuous.

                Common natural or synthetic fabrics aren’t as effective at blocking modern facial recognition as anyone might assume.

                Here’s a couple examples of someone putting in a bit of effort to actually test both common and purpose-built products against facial recognition.

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        Nothing, it’s not magic. Anyone telling you otherwise is either a lying huckster or a colossal dumbass.

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      they are would be vulnerable to the same AI face scan as thier VICTIMS, people would have to be bold to pull down thier masks and let cameras record them.

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    “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien. ICE using a mobile biometrics app in ways its developers at CBP never intended or tested is a frightening, repugnant, and unconstitutional attack on Americans’ rights and freedoms.”

    Now they have a way to effectively revoke someone’s citizenship. All they have to do is change your status in the app to “noncitizen.” No need to go through the court. Just have some code that lets them flag citizens as noncitizens. They want you gone? Just flag your identity in the app as a foreign national. The agents in the field then scan your face and it reports you as an illegal immigrant. You object and show them all your legal documents, but they’ve been told the app is infallible. You’re taken to detention, and the guards there simply scan your face and report you as an illegal every time you protest. “The app is infallible” they repeat. Before you have a chance to challenge it in court, you’ve rotting in a prison camp in rural Liberia.

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      The same app that has been plagued by facial recognition issues since its inception.

      Fuck it, just don’t open the door. Ask for a real warrant signed by a judge and to see their ID, not a badge. Any chuckle fuck can buy a fake ICE badge for 50 bucks.

      If they refuse or argue, call the cops and say there are masked men loitering on your property and you fear for your safety.

      If they try to enter, well I’ll leave that up to each Individual here, but I know what my situation is and what I have to lose. I’m not going to some camp to get disappeared, and I’m not letting anyone else in my family go either.

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    We should start to pull their masks off. Seriously. Get a crowd a people big enough to protect the ones pulling them off.

    No law enforcement should be masked.

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    Masked police, taking pics of you at your doorstep… Murica. I wouldn’t live there if you’d give me 500k a year for free.

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    Right now it’s only going to be used to identify citizenship, but eventually it will gain wider use, such as to identify those peacefully participating in protests.

    You go to the latest No Kings Rally, and by the end of the week, ICE is arresting you in your 7th grade classroom, in front of your students, who you’ve been teaching about the 1st Amendment.