The suspect in the Florida State University shooter, who faces first degree murder charges for killing two and injuring five on Thursday was a member of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA, a fascist youth group around the Republican Party, and is a registered Republican voter in Florida. The 20-year-old suspect, Phoenix Ikner, is the stepson of Leon County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Jessica Ikner, who has been with the department for 18 years.
This one of the home grown terrorists I hear about? Or does this not qualify?
/s just in case
I notice they didn’t charge him with terrorism and the death penalty.
Because he didn’t hit a Tesla.
Or a CEO
Reality not just shooters:
Fascist deeply embedded in police community? That’s every cop.
^ this
It’s always the ones you most suspect.
When news of the shooting broke I was with my dad who said “the shooter was probably radical Democrat since they are the violent ones”. FoxRot is real and dangerous.
Back in the old days of Fark, I remember there used to be a flowchart of people’s reactions to mass shootings:
- Mass shooting happens
- initial reaction: guy is a terrorist Muslim and we need to bomb some country in the middle east.
- news shows it’s a white guy
- “Oh my…how sad. He must have been really struggling.”
I feel like the right has replaced the second step with whatever out group they are trying to target.
Wow, i haven’t heard anyone mention Fark in ages! I spent a lot of time there before Digg…
Magats are lost causes and they’ll never be functioning members of society in any meaningful way again. They are class traitors who want to watch the world burn
Genuinely insane. Forget about it.
No terrorism charge? That’s crazy. /s
It’s a white thing.
It’s not like he shot a CEO or something…
Or spray painted a cybertruck…
Or wasn’t white.
Just another day in America
It’s not like he vandalized a car or something…
The terrorism charge only takes place when the victims exceed a certain income level.
Or targets the business of a right wing billionaire
Turning Point USA a designated terrorist group? Yes please.
Ikner cited this “tragic event” in 2015 when he went to court to change his name from Christian Gunnar Eriksen.
Changing your name is so woke!
He was at the center of a custody battle since he was a toddler, with his father alleging his mother neglected and abused him.
Kind of have to wonder which parent was actually abusing or neglecting the kid, seeing as all this happened under his father’s roof.
TBH that sucks for the kid.
Yup. Kids always pay the price for their parent’s fuck-ups.
this isn’t a crime that would have been prevented by the gun control measures advocated by the Democrats, since none of the proposals involve disarming the police
Just had to get that in there, you fucking donkeys.
I saw some of these guys at the protest on Saturday. Someone had a microphone and spent, no lie, about 2/3rds of the time they had the mic aiming vicious criticism at the Democrats. Not “both sides,” not the whole system (that was the remaining 1/3rd), but the Democrats specifically. I thought about making a bigger post about it but I’m not even sure what to say about it. I think there was 0 criticism at all leveled at the Trump administration or anything that they were doing.
Great job guys
Disarming the police does sound like an excellent idea. Police cause more problems than they solve with firearms.
I work in 911 dispatch, a lot of my coworkers are predictably bootlickers.
I can’t even tell you how many calls we get all day everyday where we’re all just left scratching our head going “Why did you call 911,about this? This isn’t a police issue.” But since usually the only tool we have in our toolbox is police, that’s what we end up having to send.
But they’ll balk at any suggestion that maybe our police don’t need a new armored truck and a new police station, and whatever other stupid shit they’re spending tax dollars on, and instead maybe we should spend that money to beef up our mental health services, public works, homeless outreach, animal control, code enforcement, and other services that we could be providing instead of just sending police out to deal with non-police issues.
Luckily, my local police are pretty good as far as police go, not too trigger happy, generally make a decent effort to handle mental health issues carefully, they usually manage to not make things significantly worse, though they often don’t do much to improve the situation either.
they usually manage to not make things significantly worse, though they often don’t do much to improve the situation either.
I think even with the best of intentions, if two people with guns show up to some sort of crisis, it’s easy to see how that might not be, like, the right vibe at the moment.
Edit: word
It’s definitely the wrong vibe a lot of times, but it’s also a weird balancing act.
I like to think my county has our shit together about as well as anywhere in the country (which is admittedly a fairly low bar) We do have some other resources available to us that we try to make use of, like a mobile crisis team (which is technically some sort of private non profit entity that receives county funding and works with us and our police departmens very closely, but it’s not something that we can directly dispatch in the same way we can send police/fire/EMS)
And they do a lot of good, they go out and respond to calls from people who need their assistance, and often handle things just fine on their own.
But a lot of times we find ourselves getting calls from those teams because they went out to make contact with someone, who they spoke with and who requested their assistance, but started getting aggressive so they need police to assist them.
And I’ve been on the phone with a lot of situations that have taken some crazy turns, where it starts out sounding like a totally boring, routine call for an officer to come out and take a report or address some minor issue, and suddenly everyone is yelling, punches are being thrown, something is on fire, etc.
So in the interest of safety, a lot of non-police calls probably should still have police respond as well, they just need to strike a happy balance where they’re waiting outside or something, ready to bust in if needed, but otherwise they’re not directly involving themselves in the situation.
But overall, a whole lot of my calls would probably be best resolved if we could force people to sit down with a middle school guidance counselor and learn how to take a deep breath, count to 10, use their inside voices, and listen to each other.
As the saying goes, if you have a problem and you call the police you now have 2 problems.
as always, “no way to prevent this” says only country that this happens.
Are Australia and UK cops as corrupt as USA cops seem to be?
not yet
I hate how the narrative now is:
Yeah the republicans are bad, but the democrats didn’t stop them from doing the bad in the most perfect way so who’s the real bad guy?
But he used his parents guns. Guns owned by police…
Why did they say “fascist” twice?
To cover both sides of his face.
The mom is still with the sheriff office after her kid used her issued weapon to murder people? That seems like an immediate resignation type of event, with potential for criminal negligence charges down the road.
I’m from Tallahassee and small correction. It was her former service weapon that she purchased from the department after it was decommissioned. It was her personal firearm.
Cops are so fucking careless with guns it’s unbelievable. Any time you hear of an accidental discharge, it was the cops negligence and they’re lying about it because Glocks do not misfire without user error
They leave them unattended in public bathrooms so often that my hospital has a protocol for what to do if we find one
jfc, I’ve heard about them doing that but I didn’t realize it was that bad. Fucking morons
LEO are involved in hundreds of accidental discharges a year, they also shoot themselves and other officers on accident dozens of times per year. Unfortunately exact numbers are very difficult to get because cops always fight having their actions tracked in national registries.
I’ve also thought it’s hilarious how cops seem to love glocks. The “dual trigger” safety mechanism is shit. It can get caught easily on your holster, waist band, or one of the 20 fucking things on your belt and cause an AD. Oh yeah, if you have shitty trigger discipline like most cops,then you’ll probably have an AD too.
Springfield makes a much better, safer pistol, IMO
*negligent discharge
Exactly. Still user errors, not the Glock
Sorry, mate, I’m a Glock fan boy. Love mine and never had a misfire or snag. I don’t doubt how good Springfields are though, I have been wanting to try one out. They look really snazzy too
I heard it was her service weapon which she then purchased as a personal weapon?
Well, perhaps, but you neglected to include the Florida clause.
I thought I’d read in a previous article that the mom went to prison for kidnapping him a few years ago and taking him out of the country in violation of their custody agreement. If I’m recalling this correctly, it’s insane that he can still work as a deputy, but I know how Florida loves their cops.
This is misinformation, and I know it’s not intentional.
His biological mother did kidnap him. The Leon County Sherriffs deputy is his step-mom that has functionally raised him since he was very young.
… but I repeat myself.
There was another article that said the shooter used the step parent’s service gun.
It used to be her service weapon. It was purchased from the department when they updated equipment.
so do they have responsibility for their weapons?
like securely locked-up whenever they are not on physically in possession and in control of them?
People should be charged with a crime when their unsecured firearms are used in a crime like this. I’m not holding my breath on this one. No way a cop actually faces criminal charges for this. But they should :(
They absolutely fucking do. Most of these situations happen because of some negligent fucking asshole who owns a firearm. It’s so easy to make sure it’s locked up and inaccessible to others. I own firearms and know exactly where they are at at all times and know that they are secure, there’s no fucking excuse for that negligence
Another MAGAt Nazi. Living their death cult dreams.
