Rank Of Preferences of what I would most prefer to do after reading this, starting with most preferred!
- be shot by a firing squad
- die by lethal injection
- visit south carolina
Barbaric idiots.
Death penalties don’t help to fight crime, as has been proven over and over again.
Cruelty is the point
I’ve had several surgeries in my life that required a general anesthetic. There is no excuse or justification, other than sadism, for suffering here. Shouldn’t have the death penalty in the first place.
Except for the fact they let him choose his method of executions. I mean, being against the death penalty in general is one thing, but the sentence was passed out and the convict chose that method.
Choose between three painful methods.
Of those firing squad probably least to be honest. The lethal injection and electric chair are just too slow and unreliable.
They shoot in the heart instead of in the head so ymmv
There is no ethical, or painless, way to kill someone who doesn’t want to die.
Giving them an overdose of opioids and then electrocuting them would be less painful.
He chose this method? Are people THAT scared of needles that they’d prefer getting shot?
I don’t think you understand how unreliable the other execution methods are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOn3wba8c-Y
Getting shot in the heart/head is pretty fast.
It’s the shit chemicals being injected that don’t kill you for an hour that scares people.
I find all forms of capital retribution to be barbaric, in addition to having the problem of killing potentially innocent people. Add to that it’s hard to argue that a justice-system can even exist when a prosecutor can just dangle the death penalty over a defendants head if they don’t sign a plea.
-With all of that in mind I’ve always found the idea of a firing squad to be the least unappealing option out of all of the multiple unappealing options. Guns were specifically designed to effectively kill people with hundreds of years of iteration built into them. Our military and our Allies military sometimes even use them to kill children. a skilled shooter and a stationary target can make it quick. -At least, that’s what I can imagine.
I fould prefer this over drowning in lung fluid, or being slowly electrocuted also.
Heck, execution is preferable to how the average person lives their lives.
I remember seeing some war footage or something of a guy being executed from a meter away by a truck mounted .50 caliper gun. His head just disappeared. After my initial, holy shit! why did I just watch that, I thought, I can’t think of a better way to go. Minus the buildup.
personally I don’t believe in an afterlife. I do believe that once your organs cease to function your brains gets a cocktail boost that sets you into a fast dreamlike state. think of it like a naturally induced coma that you might never wake up from.
in this state is when you have your “afterlife”. I believe it’s an evolved trait that allows the brain to survive as long as possible after a traumatic death.
In my perspective, shooting a person in the head is just about the worst thing you can do because it robs them of those final moments where they could possibly live out an entire lifetime.
I would much rather die naturally, but will gladly take a slow painful death that will guarantee me my final moments instead of a “blip you’re dead forever” moment.
I agree with this. It may even be a mechanism to send you off to the next realm or something.
You’re entitled to your own personal beliefs, but you should know that your belief is inconsistent with the current scientific understanding of biology and consciousness.
What do you suppose is the case then?
I believe that as soon as you are dead, your consciousness ends until the next time it is back. And since over an infinite amount of time, anything is inevitable. I am very afraid to die, because I’m afraid I won’t stay dead. But yeah, I don’t see why they waste chemicals, or electricity when bullets are cheap and humane.
The can on “cruel and unusual punishment” had always been a farce.
It is said that it has to be both {cruel && unusual} simultaneously to be unconstitutional. The more they carry out these “new methods” like nitrogen gassing the more ‘usual’ it becomes.
well no, nitrogen gassings aren’t “cruel”, they’re novel.
What they mean when they say cruel and unusual is some shit like strapping a guy into a 2007 camry, sending it down a mountain into a fucking lake, until he drowns.
That’s oddly specific. Did I miss something?
no, it’s just an example of something that would be considered both cruel, and unusual punishment, to provide a sufficient example.
You can’t just look at something like nitrogen gassing and go “its cruel because it’s killing someone, and also unusual because it isn’t utilized often” It has to be literally cruel, as in, you shouldn’t do it period (general US laws would forbid it kind of a thing) and unusual in the sense that you would literally never do it.
Oh, hypothetically speaking, I’m not even certain that would qualify as cruel & unusual anymore if they were to run out of alternatives.
I can’t wait until we go back to stoning or burning at the stake. The US is going to undo the entire Reformation period.
My money is on Massachusetts bringing back Pressing.
More weight
Three bullets shot by a three man squad. State can’t even afford more men and a conscience round.
they’re all equally responsible, fuck it, equitable execution.
Executioners have no conscience.
Article about execution by firing squad.
Shows picture of an electric chair.
I can’t tell if it is specifically an electric chair from the tiny photo but I do know they don’t shoot you standing up. You are strapped to a chair and shot sitting down.
The article shows a pic of a lethal injection table so maybe SC isn’t releasing photos of the execution chair.
Larger version of the picture can be found here: https://apnews.com/article/execution-south-carolina-mikel-mahdi-8d0ca5a6dab1af35bea2f80ef6f6ca50
Caption:
This undated photo provided by the South Carolina Department of Corrections shows the state’s death chamber in Columbia, S.C., including the electric chair, right, and a firing squad chair, left
Republicans love to kill.
Now they get to use more guns to do it. E: If guns aren’t good for killing people maybe they should use knives instead. Or baseball bats. Or cars. Or whatever other tool gun nuts say can be used.
Pro-life. 🙄
Pro-Life until you are born. Once you are born, you’re fucked.
-Rough George Carlin quote
“If you’re pre-born, you’re protected. If you’re Pre-K, you’re fucked!”
they are the answer to “anti-life” darkseid has been searching about.
But they told me they’re pro-life. What a monumental disparity, how do we proceed?
Abort them.
One of them post birth ones?
How long until these executions are televised live on Fox?
public executions, probably will include multiple people. it would be pay-per -view
It wouldn’t surprise me, sadly.
We’re 30 years after Jerry Springer, and other shitty media, normalizing cruelty and humiliation as entertainment.
Football stadiums have dual use now!
Honestly much better than lethal injection. Lethal injection is slow and tortuous but looks less violent.
I’d rather be give a fuck ton of herion and ran over with a bulldozer. If that’s not available chop my head off
It sounds pretty freakin cruel to me but I’ll just post this quote and link:
source: Discover
“The physician concluded based on his observations that a severed head could retain consciousness for 25 to 30 seconds.”
I’d assume with the spine severed like that you wouldn’t feel much pain.
Plus with lethal injection it’s common for it to take hours. Just sitting their slowly drowning as your lungs fill with fluid. I’ll take the 25 to 30 seconds
The giant meat tenderizer is a nice touch.
I’m convinced lethal injection was intentionally designed to be agony, and torture. There are too many accounts by eyewitnesses of it not being peaceful, and painless.
Létal injection work well in theory
The problem is, skilled people don’t want to do it. And pharmaceutical companies don’t want their products used in it. So it’s done by unskilled people with a reduced access to products.
Afaik the process itself is fine, but it involves things like starting an IV and dosing, and people who are skilled in those kinds of things tend not to be the kind of people who are okay with assisting in an execution. So, the ones who end up doing it are basically cops with a syringe, and -big shock- fuck it up cuz they’re either too stupid to do it correctly or too evil to want to.
I think this applies more widely than just doctors. As a pilot, I could design an execution protocol using nitrogen that would be dirt cheap and totally painless. Any other pilot could write the same one. But I wouldn’t do it, not if you paid me a million dollars. There are too many cases of innocent people getting executed, so I want nothing to do with any of it. Our judicial system is good, but it is not good enough to be relied on for taking life. So I would do nothing to help justify or condone or make tolerable the act of executing prisoners.
Also, this execution is a perfect example. Three bullets to the heart should kill someone dead in seconds. But the article mentions him crying out and flexing for the better part of a minute. That makes me think all three executioners missed the heart, perhaps on purpose.
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You’re more of an optimist than me.
Holy shit, now that might be the first time anyone’s accused me of that.
Misery loves company I guess. /internet-hug from one dejected motherfucker to another.
Bro, I’m so deep in a depression hole right now. Thanks, I appreciate it.
have another
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Mainly because the drugs administered as anesthesia and loss of consciousness weren’t enough and people botched them in myriad ways, from my current understanding.
Exactly. The protocol was written by somebody with no medical training. So the first drug knocks the person out, the second drug paralyzes them, and the third drug stops the heart. Problem is, the third drug if given to a conscious person is incredibly painful. This created situations where the first drug was dosed wrong, so the person woke up but was unable to move.
Lethal injection could be much better done with a single drug system, like a massive overdose of barbiturates, but I think there is an unspoken desire to avoid any death that might be considered 'pleasant". Which to be honest is completely barbaric in my opinion.
You’re not seeing the forest for the trees.
It was ALWAYS intended to not be enough.
I saw it and thought it was plain to see.
My bad, then.
No worries. It was opaque and others may have needed to understand.
Copy that. Have a good one.
I’ll just take that heroin od
Yeah, I’ve overdosed before, it’s a swift, painless slide into the dark.
Username checks out.
Yeah. But I’m clean now and still alive to regret that particular incident, could be worse
Edit - I wanted to bring it back in a witty way to your username checking out too but fuck me it’s beyond my ability
Username fucks out(hole).
That’s not a good story… Ask if they have a mallet!
It’s like we are going backwards
When it comes to capital punishment, the US has really never been forwards.
Make America great again… They never said how far back tho!
Ain’t nothing “like” about it
Y’all are most assuredly going backwards
The fucked up thing is that both of them CHOSE this. That’s how bad lethal injection can be
also the companies are in europe so they started to stop giving it to the USA.
Seems like a guillotine would be far more humane. No 80 seconds of breathing - man that must be like an eternity of pain.
A modern justice system would be even better.
Well, multiple scientists and doctors during the French Revolution reported that multiple victims maintained consciousness, briefly, after being beheaded, up to 30 seconds. One such incident happened in 1905, to a French criminal named Henri Languille. The French used the guillotine as the State method for executions up until 1981. The last beheading was in 1977.
https://mikedashhistory.com/2011/01/25/some-experiments-with-severed-heads/
In short, it’s not painless, and does not cause instant unconsciousness. If that was the goal, they’d render the “criminal” unconscious before execution.
But then, that’s not the point, is it?
I don’t believe up to 30 seconds is possible. A proper choke in judo can render a person unconscious in ~6 seconds. Looping the head off would be a complete cessation of blood flow, You probably would experience your head starting to roll into the basket, but you’d be long gone before you hit the bottom.
So guillotine, but instead of a blade, just put a 2ft cube of steel to smash the entire head
Compressed air spike to the base of the head. You’d be dead before the sensation of pain could be registered.
I mean, we put cows down with a pneumatic hammer to the skull (Except the last place where I bought 200lbs of ground beef, found a bullet in that one. Also began questioning what parts were in the meat but I had already made 100 burgers and no one had become ill by that point…)
This would be a little different. It’s a spike that goes through the base of the skull and then fires high-pressure air into the brain. It pretty much rips the brain to shreds instantly.
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No, some morphine. Night night, then… nighty night.
is that sleep capsule used in assisted suicide for the terminally ill in some European countries too expensive? or is it a problem because that would be too peaceful?
when I was in my 20s I overdosed on ambien because I wanted out, but was saved because I sleep walked and passed out outside and some people who knew me helped. It was painless and all I remeber was taking the pills and nothing after.
You may know the story, but Jim Jeffries (Jeff Nugent,) the Australian comedian, has (had?) a friend with Muscular Dystrophy, who died multiple times, briefly.
When asked if there was anything beyond death, the friend said “No.”
What is the point?
To make the person being executed suffer.
Do this need to be explained to you?
I don’t really think that. I hear the phrase a lot and I just don’t think that’s true
