- cross-posted to:
- 3dprinting@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- 3dprinting@lemmy.world
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It’s vibe coded lol.
There’s an anecdote that comes up in software about people working on missile software not caring about memory leaks because it’s going to explode anyway before that becomes an issue.
Who cares about bugs in your software if it’s a hobby project that’s going to blow up anyway.
Also, including Claude doesn’t inherently mean vibe coded, it can be for writing tests, small components, or debugging.
Tests should be written from requirements. Using LLMs to write tests after the code is written (probably also by LLMs) is a huge anti-pattern:
The model looks at what the code is doing and writes tests that pass (or fail because they bungle the setup). What the model does not do, is understand what the code needs to do and write tests that ensure that functionality is present and correct.
Tests are the thing that should get the most human investment because they anchor the project to its real-world requirements. You will have tons more confidence in your vibe coded appslop if you at least thought through the test cases and built those out first. Then, whatever the shortcomings of the AI codebase, if the tests pass you can know it is doing something right.
Honestly, never been on a team that stuck to TDD. As you test your stuff, and understand whatever libraries and apis you’re calling you modify your implementation as you go.
For public facing methods, especially ones called by customers, having pre agreed upon tests matter more but usually that’s at the integration test and system test level. I usually use AI for unit testing and read what was written. Tests end up being a lot of writing harnesses and setting up mocks that you delegate to the model and if there’s gaps or incorrect requirements, you change them.
I would never let the agent define the code structure. It doesn’t understand business processes or what might need to be extended or we’re instead about.
I’ve been doing software for a while, I know how to review code. I don’t vibe code, I let the model implement boilerplate and mapping functions while I do other stuff, like manual testing or talking with product. If done correctly, you can incorporate generative models into your workflows without fully handing over all control.
Claude writes better code than most humans and a lot faster
I disagree about better code. Claude has been pretty bad at understanding external context and deriving why you’re doing something from the implementation. This can result in wonky structure that you need to fix, or at the very least tell Claude to redo over and over untill it looks clean and organized.
No matter how mad this makes people, its still true.
What makes the code actually useful in most cases however, is enough understanding of the program to modify as its needed. That’s where LLMs fall flat. Even when the code works, its terrible at adjusting the code to fit a specific use case. Dont even get met started on usable documentation or maintenance.
Using an LLM to write tests and small components is still vibe coding.
Wikipedia says:
Vibe coding involves accepting AI-generated code without reviewing it,
If you are using LLMs to write e.g. small components, then you are typically understanding the structure of the program, and reviewing it.
There’s nothing inherent to small components to suggest that you have to review them. If they’re small, it’s easier to tell yourself that the LLM probably got them right and you’re justified in not checking.
Bro, if I don’t have to sit there for a half hour banging out code to map structure A on to structure B, I won’t. I’ll let someone else write it and spend 5 minutes to check that the code is clean and it works
Listen to me. I do code for a living. Nobody want to write HTML
Vibe coding is you not reviewing what the model outputs. I read every line, often give feedback and tell the model about patterns I want to use.
I probably write like 60-70% of the code myself.
Well, it is supposed to go boom
Good then that they haven’t put explosives in it yet.
Just need to do a little extra testing then. ;)
spoiler
Because Australia is Australia I’ll preface this with: this is a joke. Any depictions of high profile/high net-worth individuals in my area are strictly fictional and any resemblances are merely coincidental.
Anyone got some high profile/high net-worth individuals in my area?
just go to a junkyard and get some dead cars if you just need something to blow up.
So do I put the CEO’s inside the cars?
if you wish so.
Me in court next year: “I HAD PERMISSION!”
lachlan murdoch lives in sydney
i’m willing to give it a pass if it lets us take down drones
To quote a great leader “Why is it not pointy on the end?”
Michael Scott really said that?
I was quoting Sacha Baron Cohen in “The Dictator”.
Regulators are gonna have a feast with this.
Damn… Nerf wars gonna be crazy.
“Want to know how I got these scars? The Great Nerf War.”
If I’m understanding this correctly, this is more valuable to underfunded military forces but not for the 3d printed ghost gun types. This doesn’t include propellent or explosives, which are the controlled parts. That’s awesome though.
If you can buy bullets… Or gasoline.
I assure you those do not magically translate to rocket propellent and high grade secondary explosives.
This is the same kind of thing the local Airsofters were building with an arduino and a few hats a decade ago. It’s not a functional “weapon” it’s just a hobby rocket with fins (that admittedly looks real fun to shoot)
Lawmakers “ban 3d printers!”
Us “we’ll just something else then”
Lawmakers ban owning things!
They’ll probably be cool with it if you have to subscribe to owning things
No you see, if arms companies own all the rights regarding distribution of 3D printer tech then it is a constitutional right to produce guns with printers, if not then it is terrorism.
GOP: “everything I don’t like terrorism” Us: “wasn’t it woke last year?” GOP: “this is completely different because I said so”
“MANPADS” sound like incontinence product exclusively marketed for men.
You’ll get my manpad from my cold wet crotch!
Violence is only the last resort, but Americans should learn to make DIY weapons in case another civil war breaks out, because it is unlikely that Donald will concede power when the time comes.
Let’s just remember the great lessons of history: Never cavalry charge a formed infantry, if the war involves Vietnam in ANY way, join the Vietnamese side, and halberds are the pinnacle of melee weapons.
The last thing Americans need is more weapons
Finally i can print m’y own rpg and play half life in real life
The HEV suit might be more important ngl
Damn and the Dept of Fucked Up Wars pays $1 to 1.3 million for a Tomahawk cruise missile. I am fully aware MANPADS are much smaller.
The article below the DIY MANPADs was interesting too. MIT researchers used a 3D printer to build an electric motor!
A Tomahawk cruise missile is 5m tall, Printing that would take quite some time.
This next rebellion is going to get crazy!
Still crazy for a single project even thogh it’s vibecoded
Is it weird that I have all of the necessary components already? Lol.
reminds me of this guy doing similar stuff on youtube
