If I were in his shoes, I’d be really fucking reluctant to give any order that would result in a bloodbath. I mean, we can all guess by now that it will end up that way, but I don’t think we should be so quick to condemn a man that doesn’t lightly order violence.
Pressure him into taking action, because that pressure may ease the weight of responsibility, but understand that it’s a heavy weight to bear. Pretty sure he didn’t go into that job expecting to face a civil war.
Everyone is in Punisher mode, on their OLED screens, from the safety of their homes, far away from Minnesota, without any responsibility for possible escalation of violence.
Both parties grift (the Republican Party does this by having progressive content creators and such say conservative talking points just to get views and money while the Democratic Party gives their videos clickbaity titles (like David Pakman, Brian Tyler Cohen and MeidasTouch) and pays them dark money). We need a third Socialist Party that DOESN’T grift and such. Actions speak louder than words. Seriosuly!
“Pwease weave. Pwetty pwease.”
Grow some fucking balls and DO something besides jack your massaging jaw, you useless old fuck.
I mean he called in the Minnesota National Guard.
Walz is a typical democrat.
He talks a big game and has great bluster.
but when the cards hit the table, he rolls over, shows his belly and shits himself
He should have activated the national guard weeks ago. He should have had them on the streets everywhere that ICE was at, Following them where ever they went, with orders to intervene anytime they stepped out of line.
He should have been ordering every state law enforcement agency to follow ICE, and arrest them every time they abducted a child, every time they assaulted an innocent civilian, anytime they’ve murdered an innocent person.
but instead of doing anything useful and proactive to protect his state, he keeps going on twitter and begging “pwease mistur pwesident, stahp hwurting my pepulz. pretty pwease?”
I’m about 95% sure that there’s dirt on Walz.
Not like, “taking Saudi money to look the other way over political assassination” dirt, but like typical, milquetoast establishment Democrat corruption, some money changing hands somewhere, maybe something to do with China. The kind of thing that the Republicans would do and it would be buried in the news cycle within 5 hours, but if a Dem is caught cheating even stupidly and mildly, they will roll over screaming like a startled baby goat.
Dems are too hung up on “The high road” and fold so easily under the slightest threat of being called out for something improper. Looking at you Al Franken, for forever staining the entire liberal left with the shame of being the weakest, most pathetic losers, incapable of actually protecting their constituents.
Or maybe there’s really no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. It’s a capitalistic show for the easily manipulated citizens of the US Empire, that have been propagandized since early on in grade school.
Go ahead and vote your way out of it.
Go ahead and vote your way out of it.
I will continue to try. We don’t have a lot of other options, but this isn’t a bad option, unless you only watch the bad news.
You are right about the Dems. But we have to stop getting lost in these stupid 4-year federal kayfabe WWE spectacles, when the people and organizations that hold up the Federal state are the local judges, mayors, community leaders and elected representatives.
The USA is too large and our current voting system is simple enough that it would take a very large, concerted effort to cheat the entire thing, or we wouldn’t see people like Mamdani and other progressive/socialist leaders that we saw come into power last local election cycle, and if we actually all got off our asses instead of being cynical and actually built more grassroots movements like New York did, we could kick the legs out from under this entire fetid cauldron of corruption.
This isn’t new, and it doesn’t matter which of the two parties are in office. The US Empire is a cancer.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/us_atrocities.html#imperialism
Cut power to their buildings and to the hotels they’re staying. Now that it’s super cold out. Threaten them with freezing. Then order a slow as fuck inquiry to find out why there is no power and clutch your pearls.
If you genuinely want to disrupt them, you can.
Otherwise STFU with the rhetorical posturing.
Lead or get out of the way. Enough.
If he and the mayor really care, why don’t they use city police to enforce the laws ICE and CBP are violating on a daily basis? They may have federal immunity but they are committing state crimes in broad daylight like it’s going out of style. Arrest some criminals like you’re supposed to. Not an all-out war between police forces, just, you know, regular law enforcement.
Walz has the power and authority to simply call up the National Guard, which he rightfully commands, and say “Hey keep ICE out of the city.” Same with the cops.
The president can send orders to deploy the NG here or there, but he doesn’t have control over their orders or what they’re supposed to be doing exactly. That still falls to governors. And the Minnesota national guard command has already indicated that they would follow orders from the governor and uphold the constitution over the president. And there’s absolutely no love between the Minneapolis police and ICE.
I don’t know why we’re not actually acting likes States. We’re “United States” not one big, single state called “America.” States have the power, the Federal Government works for the states.
It seems likely to me he/ dems know this will tip off a civil war and they are still hoping to find a different way of dealing with this. Something less bloody. No decent person wants to make the choice that is the final straw before thousands die. Also, even if they recognize it to be inevitable it is necessary to wait until the masses are aligned. The way you-and all the rest of us- are getting fed up is a sign the fruit is almost ripe.
Or they could just be compromised cowards. It doesn’t really matter actually, at some point the tide will flood the city streets and then someone will show up to lead.
Nobody with half a brain thinks an actual civil war is happening in the next several decades at least, but the idea holds that they think there’s a “high road” that will lead to everyone getting along and being civil to each other, and most importantly to them, establishment democrats keeping their positions of secured power with their old money and new donors.
Civil unrest is absolutely going to get worse and worse, but that’s not what the current DNC leadership cares at all about, if you follow the money you realize that there’s only one political party and they’re doing a kayfabe act to keep people hooked on the drama and narrative, despite actual lives being lost as a consequence.
Their only actual fear right now is that we sweep out the incumbent democrat leadership this November.
Effective: “Today I am calling for the immediate arrest and trial of agents involved in the murders and abuses of state citizens”
Ineffective: “please leave”
Ineffective: “please leave”
Also ineffective: “I call for X”
Effective: “I will be funding and giving media access to local self-defense groups, worker organizing, and mutual aid orgs. The threat comes from the state apparatus and the only way it can be defeated is by grassroots organizing”
Maybe he can give them a basket of cookies too?
SEND IN THE NATIONAL GUARD. You state is under attack by gestapo and they are purposely destroying evidence to hide their crimes.
They must be force out with guns, not stern words. Your call waltz.
They sent NG, but many didn’t expect NG to defend the people.
I also saw a photo of an armed protest in Minneapolis following the shooting by ICE.
Have a link or copy of the photo you can share?
I don’t have a link, but here’s the photo
Love “not a cop” flair
Although, we are getting dangerously close to “Was Chaz good?” discourse
Did he say pretty please? That would be effective.
Tell him. Ask harder!
i can see why he was so ineffective during the campaign as well, you cant play to republicans emotions about disabled people when they are making fun of them.
Order them by threat of force
Anything else is just more posturing and god, we’ve seen so much posturing already
It is not within the authority of the Governor of the state to use force against federal agents.
These people pushing violence really seem to be happy with just throwing away everything about the country that we’re trying to save. These people are in lock step with the MAGA bots on the issue:
- Rules (only when I want them),
- Violence (excusable if the target is right),
- Democracy (They’re trying to steal it so lets throw it in the garbage before they can).
Don’t confuse a lot of upvotes with a popular opinion, it is trivial to make vote boosting bots on Lemmy.
If you are in the US, these people pushing this violent rhetoric are not on your side and are trying to push us into the same chaos as the MAGA forces.
I’m sorry, but saving a democracy?
You can try and save the country from a civil war, maybe, but the US hasn’t been anywhere near a democracy for decades now. It’s just much more visible what it really is.
I’m not calling for violence, but the ilother side is violent and they’re not going to stop. Maga will eventually only listen to violence.
If you think that judges will make a difference then I can only tell you to get your head out of your ass, Maga politicians and organizations have been ignoring one court order after another, or get the supreme court to just say it’s fine.
I don’t know what it’ll take to fix this, but asking kindly will not suffice, that much is clear
If you think that judges will make a difference then I can only tell you to get your head out of your ass, Maga politicians and organizations have been ignoring one court order after another, or get the supreme court to just say it’s fine.
This is just nonsense and not based in reality.
Here is the list of every single case involving the Trump administration: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/projects-series/trials-of-the-trump-administration/tracking-trump-administration-litigation The vast majority of cases are losses and denied on appeal.
Are there still troops in California after the judge ordered them out? Is Kilmar Garcia still in CECOT after a judge ordered him returned? Has Mahmoud Khalil been deported despite a court order?
No, because the court orders are being followed. Yes, the US Justice Department lawyers do everything they can to avoid following them but they cannot tell a Judge no and the Judge is overseeing the case until their orders are followed.
You’re not arguing based on reality, you’re arguing based on social media optics.
I don’t know what it’ll take to fix this, but asking kindly will not suffice, that much is clear
“I’m not recommending violence, but nothing else will work”
Having an Impeachment trial, and blocking funding for DHS isn’t ‘asking nicely’ these are the powers that check the Executive branch in the US system of government.
If you don’t believe in that system of government then you’re no better than the alt-right fascists and are allied with enemies of the US.
While the National Guard is prohibited from performing law enforcement on behalf of the President under the Posse Comitatus Act, the governor of the state they’re operating in can deputies them.for law enforcement.
He doesn’t need to wage war on ICE. He just needs them to be chaparroned by armed Nation Guard troops anywhere they go, and have them arrest ICE goons when they violate the law. If ICE gets proper judicial warrants and executes them lawfully, then there shouldn’t be any problems.
An important distinction on warrants is that an immigration judge cannot issue a judicial warrant because even though the word “judge” is in their title, they aren’t part of the judicial branch. They’re employees of the executive branch, so any warrants they hand out are administrative in nature and cannot legally be used to enter private property without consent.
LOL. you will lay face down in mud with the boots of an ICE on the back of your head and still think, “well, at least I upheld the dignity of Democracy!”.
GTFO with your “b-but both sides are bad!” garbage.
You can have the national guard follow and chaperone ICE. There are no laws that say you must allow federal agents to break the law in front of you. They should be arrested when witnessing them violate the constitution.
Force only recognises force no? Newton.
This is an extremely egregious and dishonest comment. You are ironically waxing poetic about the law that the current admin has torn to shreds with the help of this lawless force that everyone else actually wants to stop. Let’s take a look here:
- Yes, we have to change the rules. It’s actually very rare that oppressive laws are overturned through entirely legal means. “I can kidnap, torture, and kill people if the state says it’s okay” is not the same as “Holy shit suspend that immediately I don’t care if it’s against the rules to do so”.
- Yes, violence is excusable if the target is committing heinous acts of wanton violence. We shouldn’t finger-wag murderers
- This goes back to point one, if your ““democracy”” allows for people to be violently oppressed like this, it is a total farce, and NEEDS to be entirely revamped.
You are, painfully obviously, someone who cares more about “stability” and “order” (dude just let the ruling class brutalize people every now and then, don’t rock the boat too hard) than any sense of actual justice and safety. Stop defending literal politicians, who INTENTIONALLY put themselves in this situation and BLOCK anyone actually willing to help stop this madness, while you encourage the already-oppressed masses to take on more trauma with far fewer resources. Note how you don’t even end your comment with any call to action like mutual aid, just “lalala these frustrated netizens are fake people block your ears!!”, fix this
You’re sure beating up those strawmen positions that I never stated or even believe.
there’s no question of authority here. you shoot someone you get arrested.
Or just hand over your voter rolls https://bsky.app/profile/chrismurphyct.bsky.social/post/3md7idhl3mc23
Maybe if he says it enough times they’ll leave. Or maybe he should enforce the law in his state.
he knows trump wants to declare martial law. and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call. everyone’s waiting for someone to step up and show some leadership against fascism, and if it ever happens, it’s definitely not going to be someone in public office
and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call.
Yes, [REDACTED] brought up the Hortman assassination a propos of nothing on social media, and within 12 hours, Walz dropped out of the governor’s race quite unexpectedly. That was my first thought, that the regime has made its threat clear to him.
We have a federal government that is using mob/cartel tactics to terrorize people into submission.
This is not okay.
I’ll take no shit for five dollars, Alex
What is constipation, Trebek?
I think he should never have run. It would have been an unprecedented 3rd term.
Then what the fuck is this guy even for?
to make it look like there’s someone in charge who gives a rat’s ass about you. that’s usually fine–but not when a fascist con man rapist sack of shit is president. it doesn’t matter how many innocent citizens are murdered–walz will do nothing beyond complaining about it .
We’re kinda at the do nothing and be murdered or do something and then maybe get killed for it stage.
Starting to seem like trying is the better option
Buy a weapon before they close that pipeline.
Sometimes it’s better to die on your feet rather than your knees.
Talk the talk.
If we really honestly can’t figure out a better plan than to get our little glocks and go plink at em, then okay. But we’d have to be a whole lot dumber than I think we are.
Plinking at them with our little glocks worked for 20 years in the Middle East.
Don’t ever underestimate will.
Pretty sure they were plinking with AKs and RPGs
I’m all ears on how your going to reason with might makes right peole to give up their power
Um, elections and proper application of the law.
Everyone here is so up their own butt about how it’s all corrupt and everything’s over man (after shitting on Harris for five months straight) but that’s the right way to do it.
If you just need to murder some brownshirts and want to take the consequences, then that’s always an option. It’s just not the best option. It’s not even a good option.
after shitting on Harris for five months straight
For Christ sake shut the fuck up about Harris already. People are dying, democrats don’t do jack shit unless it is to help THE MURDERERS and y’all are still butting in everywhere to throw a tantrum.
The elections they’re talking about canceling and the rule of law that they are completely ignoring.
So while you’re waiting for that to work the rest of us need to figure out how to actually get something done.
Um, how many more need to get murdered by the government before you come up with something even the slightest bit more effective than “sit on our asses and keep getting murdered”?
We’re long past the third box of liberty, which (barring whatever incredible plan you’re working on) leaves us with either the fourth box, or just accept people being murdered.
So what we’ve been doing for decades is your answer
If the money is corrupting all players and steering the agenda, why not go after it? When we strike directly at agents of force, then we are directly attacking family and friends of a multitude of others, including of folks that may be trying to reconcile things. It will rile up his base into murder frenzy. Many undecided (dummies) will get swept up in the frenzy, because they’ll defer thinking to others around them. The rabid base have few relationships with their oligarch masters.
Lobotomize their think tanks.
Cut out the tongues of their media propagandists.
Bring any and all levels of direct action against the class that is causing this.
The Vietnamese did it and they were trapped in a cave with a bunch of scrap metal.
I mean on the other hand, Trump kind of does want violent resistance to spring up so provide the Reichstag burning he’s been waiting for to amplify the cracking down. I mean, they kinda already had the Charlie Kirk shooting, and he kind of already can institute martial law whenever (it’s not constitutional but neither has been a single thing he’s done lately), and martial law won’t really lead to anything on its own anyway… I dunno, let’s keep resisting in effective ways. One idea is to make ICE’s life hell so they loathe their jobs and go home.
I’ve got a better idea, go to one of the net worth websites, take your pick and make some real change happen.
These people literally ran for office specifically to represent the people. They shouldn’t be shy about putting things on the line
Unfortunately, Democrats have done nothing to build any forces loyal to democracy. They supported racist and violent cops that are loyal to Republicans, and those cops almost certainly won’t follow orders to arrest ICE agents. If anything they’re just going to collaborate, like they already have despite it technically being illegal. National Guard might be better, maybe, but they’re probably just going to help ICE suppress the protestors.
Who would he call upon to enforce the law?
The big myth that nobody analyzes nor tries to dispel in politics is that police (of any type) operate under democratic control.
They never have, and until qualified immunity is eliminated, they never will.
Elected officials (outside of the president…or hey, wait a second, couldn’t Walz pardon himself for state crimes?!) do not have such an immunity. So, the “orders” that the elected officials give police are basically suggestions, and that is how they receive and follow (or don’t follow) them.
Police in US is pretty much an organized crime group. If a politician threatens their status they all will simply go on strike. Reminds of when de Blasio supported protests against police killings and every cop turned his back on him during his speech.
If the police go on strike, our problems are solved. The police doing nothing is the best case scenario.
He needs to click his heels three times first. That’s why it’s not working.
Wonder if it would work to declare a state of emergency and mobilize the MN national guard to safeguard civilians? If they are already deployed can the president deploy them?
They’ve already been mobilized. They’re guarding the Whipple Concentration Camp.
Got downvoted for claiming all he and other democrats were going to do was angrily Tweet.
They angrily Tweeted and made phone calls.
How surprising.
Or what?
…or he’ll ask nicely, again !
That’s it — You really upset the entire Democrat party! Now. They’ll write a strongly written letter. And threaten to maybe only fund 90% of ICE operations!
No dude, the Dems will kill YOU. Fascists get more respect.
use his SPED son as a prop.
he’s a coward. “oh but they’ve likely threatened his life and his familiy” ok then immediately step down and have someone else jump in that is willing to take the bullet for the people.
Someone, anyone, at this point needs to step up and NOT be afraid to do whatever it takes to defend and protect US citizens from nazis.
No politician will save us. Only you and your local community working together can.
Here are concrete steps we can take to combat the regime with our last non-violent pathways (the titles below expand if you click them).
Learn First Aid! ⛑️
As we’re seeing, deadly violence is being used against us and it will only continue. It extremely important to have the skills to be able to keep yourself and others alive if they get hurt. You can never have too many medics.
Tacticool Girlfriend provides a great introduction to building a personal first aid kit, called an IFAK, which can deal with things like bullet wounds and other serious bleeding wounds. I also want to emphasize her recommendation of only buying medical gear from reputable sources (not Amazon!), such as North American Rescue to avoid fakes that could cost you your life.
But you’ll need to learn how to use that equipment, too. The best resource for that is to take a local Stop The Bleed class, which are pretty widely available in most places. They may cost a small fee, but can also sometimes be free. Alternatively, if you cannot access a local class, this video by PrepMedic will give you a solid understanding of how to use Tourniquets and Gauze for wound packing.
Injuries are less harmful if they are tended to early. Learning first aid can help conserve resources when healthcare becomes unaffordable. Having several medics in case of harm by police is an extremely powerful morale booster during a protest that may become a police riot. When you become comfortable with the basics of first aid, riot medicine is the next suggested step.
Establish or join local Mutual Aid networks ✊
If you haven’t already, get to know your neighbors. Mutual aid is a willingness to support and grow your community. This can include informal networks through friends, tenant/renter organizations, solidarity groups, and industrial unions.
These are groups using direct action to solve each other’s problems. Building strong communities makes it difficult for fascism to take root. The actions of the government are going to hit every community hard, and the ones who build trust in each other and work together are most likely to survive. We’ve been building a list of resources in !inperson@slrpnk.net to help you on your way. Also check out this handy guide to find existing groups in your area.
This isn’t only for your own community protection. Your ability to organize today will change the political landscape tomorrow. When revolution occurs, the social organizations that show the greatest resilience through the regime are the ones typically calling the shots when the dust settles. When it comes to elections, get out the vote drives are useless if most of the voters are fascists. At some point, you have to do grassroots political education if you don’t want fascist candidates winning elections. Mutual aid networks are excellent forums not only for teaching each other good political ideas, but demonstrating them in practice.
Join a Union and Prepare for an even longer General Strike! 💪
The most effective non-violent action we can take is preparing and organizing for a General Strike.
The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor. That tactic was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would’ve had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.
If you aren’t in a union (or even if you are, it’s worth dual-carding), consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you’ll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to strengthen a general strike if we manage to enact one, as most unions have a strike fund that can supplement your income during a general strike to make it more financially bearable (you should also save as much money as you can reasonably do, so it can also be used to keep yourself afloat during a strike).
And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn’t listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above, and they’ll help you set up a new local branch.
Adopt Security Culture and Digital Camouflage 🛡️
Sometimes benign seeming efforts can turn into unexpected personal data collecting traps. Like an obscure website for exchanging contact info with other students turning into a global ad-tech surveillance network (Facebook), or innocent seeming online personality tests being use to harvest character profiles. Even Etsy, Reddit, Tinder, and Duolingo are feeding information to US Government Agencies like ICE.
Security culture is commonly used to describe the general awareness of such potential traps and how it can affect groups or entire communities. This goes beyond mere individual privacy efforts, as without joint efforts these often fail to work.
Especially in activist circles, security culture is paramount. For opsec reasons not everyone in the group might be aware of what clandestine efforts others are involved in, but with a general security culture many potential data leaks can be avoided.
Movements are made by the volume of their participants, and the easier and less dangerous it is to participate, the more people will get involved. As more people get involved, individual involvement becomes even less dangerous, creating a virtuous cycle.
We’ll start it off with some General Advice:
- Mentally wall off personal uniquely identifying info from your online presence, actively build a habit of opsec so that withholding information is your default mental state
- Be careful about who you meet online
- Use different, unrelated usernames, passwords & emails for every account. And try not to connect to those accounts with your real IP address (use Tor or a VPN)
- Be mindful that anything done online leaves a trail
- agents provocateurs may seek to find patsies willing to perform an ill-advised illegal activity in order to legitimize police repression. If someone is trying to pressure you, especially if you don’t have a long and proven history with them, be extremely wary.
For a full guide on what encrypted communications platforms to use, and how to stay off the radar, read the Digital Camouflage section within the Monthly Meta post here (you’ll need to scroll down. I’d add it here, but it won’t fit in this comment).
I’d also highly recommend anyone reading this to read Full Spectrum Resistance if you can for further info.
We, as US citizens need to protect each other from these Nazis!
This is LITERALLY what the second amendment is for
Apparently it’s illegal to open carry in that state. No wonder ICE goes there. Come to Oklahoma were we have the right to walk the streets with an AR 15, bet fuckers won’t be killing us in the streets. Fucking cowards. If Waltz wasn’t Fucking coward he pass an EO authorizing people of Minnesota to do the same.
Look at you ragebaiting with shit for facts:
Brian O’Hara, the chief of the Minneapolis Police Department, said that Mr. Pretti was an American citizen with no criminal record, and that he had a valid firearms permit. Under Minnesota law, citizens can legally carry a handgun in public, without concealment, if they have a permit.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-alex-pretti-timeline.html
Look at all your Walz hate, when he’s actually standing firm and doing what I’d expect a good governor to do. I’m guessing you don’t know about the voter lists, being uninterested in the fights people actually are winning.
There’s zero reason for ICE to come to Oklahoma, since you’re already on your knees to Trump. He’s only sending his goons to those who are actually resisting him.
To be fair, laws are done. Especially in the twin cities.
Did you see the way they cowered when one of their own opened fire? They’d straight up leave if even a couple hundred open carried.
Have you ever seen 10 people speeding on a highway together and get pulled over? No, you haven’t, and a hundred fuckers with guns don’t answer to anyone.
Gun control is a whole can of worms, there’s places where it works, there’s place where it doesn’t, there’s different kinds of cities and also rural area and just… eh this isn’t really the angle you should engage this topic from imo, even if I agree we should self-defensively arming leftists in general.
Don’t know you, but if you are American, what are you waiting for?
Shut up. When are you going out there? Problem with my fellow Americans, they always look for a handful of people to do what everyone else won’t. But I guess that’s what representative democracy conditions you to do.
Lol how could you write this without expecting this:
Where are you?
I’m in Va. I’ve been to some protests this year. Been protesting in DC since 2005.
Remember, there are a lot of foreign antagonists here. Accounts are free and you can make as many as you want. I’ll let you guess who has incentive to make many of them.
And then there are others who get convinced and just repeat those talking points.
Idk half of these agitators could be ICE themselves.
It’s why I keep reminding people that we cannot fight on their terms. They believe in warfare that is a battlefield that they can control.
Not a maze where everything and everyone is a threat.
They have the weapons. Sooting one or two would be fighting on their terms. We should fight on our own terms, with the moral high ground, instead.
Notice that is not what I said. The morale high ground is what we have been doing, and what we want to keep doing.
We do not give them a battlefield. We make their lives a living hell of paranoia.
Bruh y’all are gonna get everyone killed while you hide yourself in the basement tweeting about how this is actually the smart and brave thing to do
I think you misread what I said before:
It’s why I keep reminding people that we cannot fight on their terms. They believe in warfare that is a battlefield that they can control.
Not a maze where everything and everyone is a threat
so far that hasnt work at all, and it wont work in the future, if all your going to do is do isolated protests and short planned strikes.
We have plenty of history to see how useless militaries are against guerilla fighters.
If I lived in Minneapolis, I would step up just to grind your nose into the shit you just took. Stop capitulating. It’s weak.
It’s time to your own militias for self defense Minnesota et al.
Another toothless message. What a joke. Trump is going to invoke the Insurrection Act regardless of what you do. At least protect your damn citizens from cold-blooded federal jackboots!
he likely got the same orders that schumer and jefferies got, not to get in the way of ice. behind close doors.
Using the cold-blooded state jackboots? Where’s the force that would side with protestors strongly enough to go up against ICE?
If they push hard enough the citizens of MN will engage in asymmetric warfare like every other occupied group. The IRA, Palestinians, Vietnamese, Iraqis, etc. It’s the ultimate way to deal with militarily superior occupying forces. I can see IEDs blowing these federal thugs to the moon.
also includes doxxing, and hacking thier personal info and releasing it.
I hope our elite furry hacker friends are on the case. Never made enemies of the furries.
Americans are complacent. Part of it is living paycheck to paycheck, and part of it is that the bread and circuses have quite a few psychological tricks and chemical boosts to make them much more addictive than anything the romans could have dreamed of.
That “push hard” bit will need to be as extreme as the bombing campaign against the vietnamese was in order to get any action.
closest thing is we are basically like russia, thier population is so pacified they arnt going to fight back against he regime. thats how putin has been using force without resistance internally.
