I agree. One thing that bugs me about lemmy is how intellectually dishonest and blind people are when it comes to their own biases.

Everyone (pretty much) agrees that fascism is bad, but Antifa is a movement that means more than anti fascism. Antifa is branding or marketing in the same way that the anti defamation league is, or like the patriot act put a certain spin on a bill that stripped privacy rights from citizens. Groups use branding to gain power and aren’t all encompassing as to their motives or actions. In the case of antifa it’s less of an actual organization and more of a rallying cry that gets used for a wide variety of people with different motives, and it’s detractors point to a wide variety of actions or intents (real or imagined) when criticizing it.

All proselytizing or just the religious kind?

I’m not familiar with this conspiracy, but it sounds spicy.

Charlie Kirk got murdered for saying offensive things.

That’s his whole shtick. He has been outraged and animated for his entire career.

Did you read the article? It’s not quite that simple.

Do you understand what point he was making about gang violence and how that related to the discussion on mass shootings? In any event it wasn’t a black person.

Race has nothing to do with it at all…

No, just it’s a stupid take and always has been. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity is at least waiting for something more definitive and not simply going with what they would love to be true.

I can’t find anything saying he was killed by the right. Seems like all of the evidence suggests he was left wing motivated.

Yeah maybe. I assumed he said it because he took issue with the concept of affirmative action in general and wanted to talk about that.

They said it’s because they are black, themselves.

Those specific women said that they wouldn’t have got where they are without affirmative action. He interpreted that to mean that they were admitting to being lesser qualified.

THEY said they only got there because of affirmative action. I assume Michelle Obama meant that her husband wouldn’t have been elected if not for affirmative action as well, which i disagree with.

He said that in context of a few specific women, not black women in general. Seriously, taking things out of context is so habitual that I can’t believe anything.

Do you or do you not think it’s ok to kill people who express opinions that you strongly disagree with? Because i don’t. And if you do, then you have to allow for the possibility that they will also kill you for your opinion. It’s a zero sum game, and any society like that will inevitably fail.

Lucky for you I’m not like you then, with how you feel about murdering other people for their opinions.

I’d say the same thing to right wingers celebrating the death of someone on the left. Wrong is wrong.

I can’t believe I’m discussing whether or not it is wrong to kill someone for the crimes they may or may not ever commit…