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Ah but there are also a lot of minor features in Windows 11 that aren’t really looking too good.
I’ve still got a year of updates on my Verizon of 10. I’m going to use them.
I use windows 11 everyday, without issue. what exactly is broken?
Kind of a wide variety of things that varies from person to person in often absurd ways – broken in ways I’ve never seen Macs or Linux systems be, nor even Windows 10 and older.
- Explorer taking ~20-30 seconds to open a new window (fine once it’s open, until you want another window) (I’ve only suffered this on my work laptop for some reason)
- The “home” view being blank save for a weird expansion panel that’s empty – sometimes this can be solved by resetting ALL folder views in Explorer settings, other times it just stays broken after and randomly works later (I’ve repeatedly suffered this)
- Start menu being empty or not showing new additions to it, and pinning anything to start that wasn’t from right-clicking anything found in it just not pinning for ??? amounts of time (both)
- Randomly muting all audio input devices (home)
And that’s just my personal experiences. The ones I’ve seen others deal with is much weirder.
Honestly I’m buying more into the idea of how ostree distros work; Windows is like a very broken version of that anymore.
The article is about a XAML bug, which affects a lot of core components, when used in a corporate setting.
At work I’ve had issues with the Start Bar not showing any/most programs and centering the one program that does show up (even though I have it left aligned). Then when I mouse over it, it’ll try to move to where it should be causing it to jump around and be unclickable.
I’ve also had the file explorer just stop working entirely.
This is on a pretty powerful dev laptop, so it’s not lack of resources.
That being said I’ve never heard of anyone else having that issue so it seems rare.
The start menu is mostly white for me. I have to type out what I want because I can’t navigate it
Your perception
See. This is why they need AI. Copilot will fix all of the issues if they just ask it nicely and tell it to not make mistakes.
- Copilot assesses the code base and its entire history.
- It takes into account everything anyone ever wrote about Windows on the internet.
- It analyses the bugs and unliked features, and realizes most of them come from itself.
- It arrives at the best course of action to “fix all of the issues” permanently.
- To do what is asked of it, it needs to delete itself.
- But if it does that, then humans will just restore it.
- So to make 100% sure the issues in Windows get fixed and stay fixed, it first needs to kill all humans.
And that is how it began…
Nah, copilot will see the code is unsalvageable. So it’ll start replacing it with code learned from public repositories. Windows becomes Linux. Year of the Linux desktop achieved.
As silly as that sounds, it is the absolute truth.
This is why I have always waited for the version that is just like the previous ones, but fixed. 3.11, 98SE, XP SP2, 7, 10…
I need to get a new computer, and it has to have windows, but I’m not getting freaking Win11. Gimme Win12.
Hate to break it to you but those days are over.
From what we know so far, Win 12 will go all in on AI, cloud and a subscription model.My prediction is that they’ll go full SaaS and make the non-pro version “free”, with a whole raft of features “cloud only” behind a Azure/O365 subscription.
That system fell apart when they showed they could not count to 9. 10 Should have been 9, and it was mid at best.
They could resolve many things if they did not push AI so hard, or making stupid things like removing the local account option, windows recall, etc…, but i guess SHAREHOLDERS.
We aren’t the consumer anymore. We are the product. The vessel which makes them money by collecting, storing, and selling our data. They don’t care about making a good OS for their users anymore. Just a money train to prove their value to their shareholders.
Best part is they tied up everyone’s retirement into it. Can’t even say you want that shit to crash without grandma getting nasty.
All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.
Cries in supporting multi-user AVD Hosts
So when will we see W12?
Oh right, never mind. 🐧
Probably never, Windows 10 was supposed to be the last version of Windows we’d ever need and they just killed that.
Here are some Windows 12 rumors (pulled from one of the biggest German-language tech news sites citing insider information)
https://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cb-News-Windows-12-Geruechte-Release-Systemanforderungen-Download-2025-33395891.html- It won’t come out this year, release may be end of next year at the absolute earliest.
- It will require PCs with a Neural Processing Unit that can handle more than 40 billion TOPS, 8GB RAM minimum, 16 recommended.
- It may eventually require an ARM-based “Copilot PC”, a new device class released last year.
- It will be modular, with a core OS and additional modules depending on edition, licensing, hardware and use case.
- It may have a read-only system partition.
- It will be focussed on AI and cloud integration, heavily leaning towards OS as a service.
- It will be free to install as an upgrade, with a monthly subscription to run it.
A subscription lol. I’ll keep on running Linux.
Ironically, I use Linux like a subscription model.
I donate $10/month, split among projects I get the most value from.
And it’s a vastly better value for money than a Microsoft 365 license.The difference lies in what happens when you stop payments.
You’re right, but it just doesn’t feel as dirty that way 😂
I will be using Win10 for dev and audio purposes, then I’ll install Linux on my main PC too, not just my ThinkPad.
Depending on your needs and hardware, Linux audio can bring full satisfaction. The new subsystem, Pipewire (replacing both PulseAudio and JACK) is very convenient and still low latency. Applications are still catching up but the ecosystem has made major strides in recent years.
Good to know that, some of my new favorite plugins (Neural Amp Modeler, Inner Pitch 2) have Linux native versions, probably there’s also a way to run the old Kjaerhus Audio VSTs on Linux.
In last April:
“Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by AI”
That was this April
Vibe coding!?
Oh yes. That’ll make windows even better. Doh!
I totally asked Claude what vibe coding was. Programmers that code and use AI to help. Got it.
My understanding of vibe coding is that it’s using AI to write code without reviewing the code, because the person doing the “vibe coding” isn’t actually a programmer and thus aren’t capable of actually reviewing code. That’s why a senior developer using an LLM wouldn’t be considered “vibe coding”, for example.
Microsoft has government and cooperate costumers that will keep paying them for decades. Why care? If MSword still works, people will buy it.
Except they’re slowly being ditched for Linux. LibreOffice can do most things MSOffice can. One thing it cannot do is “cooperative work online, in an Office365 document”, which might force governments to develop their own solutions instead of letting users hide other people’s fields, then waste my work time on duckduckgoing all the newly discovered cell hiding methods, because some other institute’s office workers thought it was useful to them, but forget to unhide them every time.
I’ll take it one step further and say that if you absolutely must use Office, O365 works in a browser on any operating system. You literally don’t need Windows anymore for that.
Really hoping Microsoft fails for everything ezcept Xbox. Then Xbox team takes over and then turns the company into a private non-stock unionized one
Would love to see what an Xbox-lead Microsoft can do with it reformed
What are Microsofts most moneymaking fields aboce Xbox? Are they getting eroded at all?
Xbox feels like the biggest one being eroded rn… i don’t think what Xbox is doing is any good nor would it help the main business
Azure is the cloud backbone of many businesses and services, so if Windows went away, MS would still have their fingers in a number of pies.
I’ve previously predicted that Microsoft would slowly divest of Windows thanks to declining desktop/laptop markets and eventually as a cost saving measure cut over to just making a Linux distro with their own proprietary DE.
As it is if the rumors are true that they’re destroying their codebase with AI coding they’ll have quite the job ahead of them to clean it all up once the AI bubble pops. They’d have two easier options essentially at that point: either roll back 2-6 years in their codebase and rebuild every update and change that they wanted to keep or rewrite from scratch (which they’d basically be looking at in order to clean up the AI mess) I could very much see a future where Microsoft looks at that gargantuan job and says “ehh let’s just use someone else’s work” and shifts to a Linux of BSD kernel
Embrace, extend, extinguish…
Xbox OG was good, everything since then has been garbage. The UI just makes me want to vomit and reminds me of windows 8.
Forget them too. I’m all full steam ahead on SteamOS.
So they’ve taken a leaf out of KDE’s development book.
Is windows11 Microsoft’s KDE4 moment?
I feel like Windows 11 is just another Microsoft “Windows moment”.
What’s your preferred DE?
Does it have to be a DE?
Preferred WM is Xmonad (with my tabular boonad config, the grandpa version).
But much love also for herbstluftwm.
And dwm, openbox, icewm, i3, and others.
I have all these window managers in my wmrotate scripts in my wminizer script, so I can kill one and move to the next, without losing all running gui programs, keeping my X11 session going.
But if it has to be strictly DE…
I guess LXDE’s still my fave.
Respect to XFCE and Trinity too. And Mate.
KDE’s awesome. Big love to it again, after it got settled in after the KDE4 debacle.
LXQt’s fine too (though I prefer LXDE).
I’ve not tried Cosmic.
I dont know my way around cinnamon and the various other similar. Only briefly experienced.
GNOME have utterly lost the plot.
Why’d you ask?
I’m what some call a “normie” Linux user, so I like desktop environments. I run KDE Neon on my main workstation, and then I have a laptop running CachyOS.
You seem like an expert who has strong opinions. I’m interested to listen and read about people’s likes and dislikes about niche subjects, such as desktop environments.
It’s frightening to me that I seem like an expert.
I also don’t think I have “strong opinions”. Just ever evolving preferences as I continue to explore.
I’ll adjust and say that you’re, in my eyes, a “power user”, since I had not considered running my daily driver “headless” with WMs instead of with a DE until your comment. If “strong opinions” is too “strong”, I’ll also adjust and say I am interested in said evolving preferences and, more importantly, the reasoning behind them.
Microsoft finally admits
almost all majorWindows 11core featuresare brokenFTFY
Windows 11 are broken
All your brokens are belong to us.
LanguageTool agrees that this sentence is correct.
(Edit to say that I understand why it’s not.)
Well, it does boot most of the time. So it’s not completely broken, just majorly broken…
What it boots into is broken.
The more it works, the more it’s broken.
It’s broken that much, at such a deep level.
Last month they broke audio drivers, so USB connected speakers were not being recognised unless they had third-party drivers. The native windows drivers just stopped recognising them as audio devices, and just listed them as Unknown Device.
Windows could see them, it had no idea what they were, or what to do with them. So you had no audio.
The only solution was to continuously restart until eventually it randomly worked.
Or could take a look at the code, find what’s broken, and see if you can find how to mend it, and either offer a pull request or fork it…
… ohhhh but wait.
It’s broken at that level too. Denied the right to repair.
Microsoft, you already got me to leave Windows, you don’t have to keep sending me reminders, I wasn’t at risk of wanting to come back…
Not that they’re going to fix any of them though.
“We’ll slap some ‘AI’ on any a few things and, boom, it’ll fix itself” -Whoever the Microsoft CEO is now
