• Spacehooks@reddthat.com
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    More reason to never surrender. Russians will just kill you anyway. Least have their blood create sunflowers.

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    Russians do this because its their terror. They fear the sudden bullet to the brain and think it will create fear in others. What is does it is create a resolve to defeat them. Something few russians understand because their version of it is fatalistic.

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      13 hours ago

      This is a war crime, not genocide. If this is your standard for genocide then you should also be saying Ukraine is committing genocide.

      Russia is committing many war crimes but their goal is clearly to annex Ukrainian territory and absorb the Ukrainians into Russa. Not the eradication of Ukrainians.

      As Zionists loved to point out, before Israel openly started proclaiming their goal is to kill all Palestinians and replace them; genocide requires explicit intent to destroy a population. Not only annex territory.

      You cannot call every war crime ‘genocide’. It is not a word you can throw around lightly. The difference in Ukraine is that Russia is still primarily killing combatants whereas Israel is killing mostly women and children.

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        Please ignore the forced disappearance of Ukrainian children, residents of Mariupol discovering that their bombed out homes were being rebuilt for Russian immigrants with no space left for them, the uninvestigated murders of Crimean Tartars, dropping cluster munitions on civilian evacuations, bombing of civilian shelters, bombing of hospitals, and the large scale rape and murder in Bucha

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          Once again: many war crimes. Undeniable. Genocide? Likely not.

          Israel is primarily slaughtering civilians. Women and children make up most of their casualties. All hospitals and infrastructure is destroyed

          Russia is committing many war crimes but they are nowhere near the level of Israel; trying to wipe out the population.

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            Lmao, “it’s only a little bit of genocide lasting a century, not as bad as this other one, totally cool”.

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        I mean, you’re TECHNICALLY correct, but the Russians are on record saying Ukraine and Ukrainians do not exist as a separate people. So it’s slightly more genocidy than you make out.

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          A state or group and its inhabitants are not the same.

          If someone says “Death to Russia”, “death to Israel” or “death to ISIS” this does not mean wishing death upon everyone who lives under their rule. It means trying to get rid of the group ruling them.

          Russia says Ukrainians do not exist as a separate people and tries to annex their land: war crime.

          Israel says Palestinians do not exist (not the state, the people) and that they want kill them all, expell them from their land and put them in a concentration camp: genocide.

          This is not a “technicality”. This is the crux of what genocide means. It is not a word to be thrown around lightly.

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          Hey wannabe Reddit mods! You guys are pathetic for removing my comment refuting that users unverified propaganda, while leaving theirs up.

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          Nowhere did they say Ukraine is committing genocide. They said Ukraine also executed POW’s which is backed up by video evidence.

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            Hey, remember how that article is unverified by independent sources and comes directly from Russia? Ya know, propaganda? Hey, that video evidence that you claim is proof, can’t Russian soldiers dress up as Ukrainian and then execute people?

            Hey, do you have any independent thoughts going on?

            STILL waiting on a response. Lmao

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            Because they implied it. I’m familiar with how that works, from tankies to conservatives. You should be too.

            STILL waiting on that response, six hours later, about the executions Russia alleged with no independent verified sources. How is that a “good example”? Using propaganda as a source and then trying to claim that user didn’t imply it? Okay lol

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              They did not imply it. They said that executing POW’s is not genocide but a war crime. Then they provided a good example showing why it is a war crime and not genocide.

              You are imagining them saying something they did not say.

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                Still waiting on why unverified reports by Russia (propaganda) is a “good example” lmao

                Did I imagine that too?

                Downvotes and has not once mentioned how their entire argument hinges on false propaganda.

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                They definitely implied it by denying Russian genocide, ignoring relevant historical context, and then drawing a false equivalency on the standard of genocide by saying: “If this is your standard for genocide then you should also be saying Ukraine is committing genocide.”

                The example wasn’t very good when surrounded by context. That article is also reports by Russia, unverified by independent sources (read: propaganda). I didn’t imagine anything, I just read it and I am familiar with how these types operate. Same playbook as MAGA.

                You’ll notice further down the chain they refuted nothing, used a buzz word, and resorted to mockery.

                Still waiting on your response about using propaganda as a “good example”.

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                  They linked an article about Ukrainians executing POW’s. That is a directly applicable comparison to this post.

                  They mocked you because you are making up things they did not say.

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          Nobody wants your tankie bullshit. Stop saying Israel is not committing genocide and Russia has the right to annex Ukraine

          See what I did there?

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      In this case, I would think the perpetrator has already received their drone strike. The surveillance drone operator likely didn’t spend a long time before alerting FPV pilots.

      In general… yes. Finding them later would be hard. If they survived the war, they’d likely escape unknown.

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      More Ukrainian conscripts, obviously. Just keep throwing out waves of them until the Russian front line breaks.

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        I’m not sure of your intent, but the alternative is to lay down, let Russia take the country, and then see how many soldiers and civilians are executed and their children abducted.

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          the alternative is to lay down, let Russia take the country

          That’s a foregone conclusion if Trump can strong arm Ukraine into elections and Zelenskyy gets washed (as looks increasingly likely given how unpopular he’s become). Then control tilts back to a bunch of Russia-friendly Ukrainian business goons more interested in doing deals than fighting over turf.

          How many poorly equipped press-ganged infantrymen want to die for Ihor Kolomoisky’s vision of a future Ukraine?

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            Ukrainian constitution prohibits elections during war.

            If there is peace, Zelenskyy himself has said he wants an election.

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              Ukrainian constitution prohibits elections during war.

              Under martial law, specifically, it seems.

              One hell of a state of exception they’ve got there. Can’t imagine why anyone in power would want it to drag on indefinitely.

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                It’s common sense really. It’s impossible to have a fair election when you’re at war. A good portion of voting age men are on the front lines. Way too many opportunities for an external force to affect the results

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                  It’s impossible to have a fair election when you’re at war.

                  How many elections has the US held during war time? Hell Lincoln won his second term before the Civil War was over.

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            Maybe don’t rely on rt for news… zelensky’s popularity shot up after Trump and Vance’s oval office disgrace. Trump then sent people to try to convince zelensky’s opposition to push for elections, and even the opposition told them to fuck off.

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              zelensky’s popularity shot up after Trump and Vance’s oval office disgrac

              So he’ll be excited about holding elections?

              even the opposition told them to fuck off.

              Keep telling yourself that

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            Lmao. You’re either a tankie or a Russian. In both cases, get out of here.

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              One can be both! Oh wait…I’ve just been informed the tanks are on hella backorder. :)

              Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦