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Mongolian officials “have the obligation” to arrest Vladimir Putin if he visits the country next week, the International Criminal Court (ICC) has said.
The trip, expected to happen on Tuesday, will be the first time the Russian leader has visited an ICC member nation since the court ordered his arrest in March 2023.
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Mongolia doesnt share a border with two belligerent superpowers. Two belligerent superpowers share a border with Mongolia.
Superpowers? China and what else? You mean the country up north that can’t finish their 3 day operation in Ukraine has no economical or geopolitical significance and no one put them in corner only because they have nukes?
China and the second strongest army in Russia.
Ever since Ukraine invaded it’s actually the third strongest army in Russia.
I thought Wagner was integrated back into the main army.
I think they are still their own thing, but were made to do a pledge of allegiance to Russia.
Originally it was, but after the death of the guy Wagner was fully integrated and dispersed into the Russian Military.
I still can’t believe he was dumb enough to get on a plane after all that.
China and Northern Mongolia?
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Good job pushing irrelevant pro-CCP propaganda into an article and comment section that had literally nothing to do with “America bad”
It’s CPC, only the American propaganda media call it ccp for obvious reasons (they’re still obsessed with the Soviets (CCCP)) lol 😂
Ackchually it’s 中国共产党
The translation could go either way, which is why it was both CCP and CPC before CPC was the officially commented version. The old one has just stuck around since it’s a grammatically equivalent moniker, and nobody really cares. It’s not even disrespectful.
No no you don’t understand, using CCP is racist
🤭
As I said before only the American fascism and it’s propaganda apparatus call it that way
Well, yes, it is the common term used in america. I believe I covered the quirk of transliteration that lead to it’s use. Ergo, american-english affiliated media will likely use the term used in america. Other media will, obviously, use the transliteration common to their culture.
If your best argument counter is “haha yu put letters in the wrong order!!1”, you seriously need to work on your material better. That’s just low effort, man.
It’s not letters in the wrong order little fella, the order of the words is important for the meaning of the message
ok
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My guy, the top level comment was making a joke about Genghis Khan/Mongolia’s history, and the article doesnt even mention China. You’re the one who magically interpreted it with zero basis as an attack on Dear Leader’s sensibilities.
If your allegiance were any more transparent, you’d be a piece of glass. Please find your brain sometime soon, it misses you. This thread is over and my block list grows by one!deleted by creator
Dude… what? China is very much a belligerent superpower. Your whataboutism abt the US has literally nothing to do with the topic of discussion as it has no bearing on this geopolitical situation, whereas China DIRECTLY NEIGHBORS the nation in question, is routinely aggresive towards western-allied nations like the Phillipines (or momgolia), and tends to side with Russia over western institutions. Are you being purposely obtuse, or are you just that dense?
Are you being purposely obtuse, or are you just that dense?
Whoa, slow down there buddy. You think that dude can even understand those words?
Funny how you type always project so hard
Irony.
Whataboutism at its finest!
https://apnews.com/article/china-philippines-south-china-sea-ship-06e9fe0ef440aba09bc650d986d83377
https://www.newsweek.com/china-overseas-military-bases-us-intelligence-1878183
Do they call you idiots Tankies because your brains are full of irradiated steel?
Better tankie than American faschie
You’re both one and the same.
Your ignorance just told me you must be American lol 🤣 communism = far LEFT ideology whereas fascism = far RIGHT ideology so they’re basically OPPOSITE ideologies!!! You American ppl are hilarious, please keep entertaining us lol 😂😂😂
I remember when I was 11 years old…
They’re the same level to me who’s watching from the sidelines.
Both mindsets are social cancers supporting colonialism and autocrats.
Two things can be true/bad at once.
Be better
Supporting colonialism like the American fascists you mean ? 🤔
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What genocide is China currently partaking in?
If you are going to attempt to spread misinformation about the Uyghur Genocide not being a genocide, I’m going to tell you right now as a moderator to not start with that.
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Why hasn’t West Taiwan gone to war over Taiwan and the South China Sea? Because they are a Paper Tiger and know they would be embarrassed by the US Navy. That’s why the US shows up to every “minor dispute”, to keep the peace and support their allies. Additionally, China has recently been extremely belligerent concerning the border with India, which is a continuation of what has been happening since the 1960’s.
Historically, you’ve also forgotten the CCPs military actions against Tibet, Vietnam, Cambodia, South Korea, and the many border conflicts with Russia/USSR.
As for genocides, it is very convenient for you to forget about the Uyghurs…
Lol at the delete.
To be fair, it was the moderator that deleted their message, not the poster. Mods are always stifling discussion around here. Feels like Reddit.
Dude, he went full genocide denial. Nothing productive there. Full CCP propaganda troll.
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.ml is leaking again
Porque no los dos
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False.
Also, you have more downvotes than the factcheckbot 🤡
Well they’re both bad and the world would be better off without those countries which have a high percentage of people liking authoritarian leaders.
Uh-oh, sounds like it’s time for another Yuan dynasty!
Folks who clapped like seals at the formation of NAFTA and the EU are forever mad and extremely nationalist the moment Ulaanbaatar and Beijing start engaging in a little cross-border economic development. The Mongolian Central Corridor has the opportunity to dramatically improve the livelihoods of millions of people, and the western response is to bankroll domestic terrorists to blow that shit up.
Of course, these are the same idiots and assholes who staunchly defend a 9/11 every day in the Gaza strip. The Online American is far and away the most propagandized creature on earth.
So disappointed to discover that BBC updated the headline and the article (and no more than six hours later)…
New headline: Ukraine calls on Mongolia to arrest Putin ahead of visit
An ICC spokesperson told the BBC that Mongolian officials “have the obligation” to abide by ICC regulations, but clarified that this did not necessarily mean an arrest had to take place.
The agreement says in some circumstances, states may be exempted from the obligation to carry out an arrest where they would be forced to “breach a treaty obligation” with another state or where it would violate “diplomatic immunity of a person or property of a third state”.
In other words, it’s absolutely mandatory in all situations except for all the time everywhere.
It’s a vibe.
Unrelated but wth is going on with the username and instance lol
I run my own self-hosted single-user instance (edit: I should add that it’s a pyfedi instance and you can learn more about it by visiting the flagship at piefed.social ), and I wanted to do so for free (or at least not spending any additional dollars on it - so not counting the old laptop that I bought ages ago and the internet I already pay for to, I don’t know, do gmail and youtube since I already have those anyways) - so I ended up with this funky instance name since srv.us guarantees you a permanent name but you don’t really get to choose it. I figured the username should probably match, so…
It’s super cool! I checked it out and even tried to register but it said registration closed, only admins can add users lol.
Ah, maybe it’ll open up again soon. Last time I checked it out (a couple of weeks ago) it was still open - albeit you apply, and then your application is considered (that is, admin approval/human review required).
Edit: Note of course that you can still subscribe to communities like !piefed_help@piefed.social and !piefed_meta@piefed.social from your lemmy.world account to keep up to date here.
All the good ones were taken.
It would be hard to do given Mongolia’s geographic situation of being next to two military superpowers
You mean the great Mongolian Armed Forces bordering cowardly Russia? Russia physically could not invade Mongolia rn. China might but I doubt they would stir the pot that much over Putin.
NCD on reddit had the idea of just putting him on a plane straight to USA, as there would be little to no possibility of China or Russia firing on a plane holding Putin.
Why the USA they themselves are not committed to the process and are not where the ICC is based.
Some Team America ideas.
I’m not going to blame Mongolia if they just ignore that. They do not have any ability to hold him.
Would be the funniest twist this century though. Common n Mongols, have some humour!
I’m having a hard time seeing why they couldn’t. It’d be a dipl9matic disaster for them to simply go “yeah, we lied” and arrest him, but on the other hand, I don’t see what russia could possibly do. Sure, medvedev will throw yhe usual hissyfit and threaten with invasion, but… he and which army?
Well China happens to really like Putin. And both countries have special forces that are more than capable of grabbing him back without a wider war. But Mongolia is also land locked and not super developed on it’s own. So it’s likely to suffer a complete air and ground blockade until they give either country enough to make them forget it happened.
There is no upside to Mongolia doing this. They aren’t strong enough to pull it off. And there are large consequences.
Not going to happen. Even if Mongolia were somehow immune to retaliation, Russia has like a 90% approval rating there.
Russia physically cannot invade Mongolia rn, I doubt they could invade parts of Russia if they declared independence.
Do it, states. Doooo eeeeet.
So will Mongolia lose its ICC rights when it doesn’t, or will they just feign attempt to feign a “we tried to arrest him, but he got away damnit!”?
You cant ask a country like mongolia to commit suicide just because.
Then it can just leave as a member of the ICC if it cannot fulfill its obligations.
Time to send a sacrificial body double then.
That would be hilarious if they arrested Putin but he just continued ruling the country from Moscow.
Would be more funny if real Putin was arrested and body double would take over ruling as if nothint happened. Entire Russia just denying the existence of real Putin.
This would be a great sitcom.
Putin Truthers having a big day!
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