For those of you contemplating ways of covering up the ads:
This is the same airline that beat the shit out of that doctor because the airline overbooked the flight. For your own safety, do not cross this airline.
The Chicago Department of Aviation did that. The same way if the police ends up killing someone, it was not the person calling the police.
United was booting passengers to make room for employee transfers though, the situation was shit before dept of aviation even got the call.
Those employees could have stood. Frontier and Spirit give vouchers out when they intentionally overbook…which before the pandemic was everyday. If nobody takes the bait, they up the voucher value. For them it’s essentially monopoly money.
If United couldn’t get anybody to bite at the vouchers, then the employees should have stood the whole flight. Instead, they beat a man who was not fighting back physically. He only insisted that he get to his patient. They LITERALLY dragged him off the plane. By his ankle, as he tried to grab onto anything he could.
If United couldn’t get anybody to bite at the vouchers, then the employees should have stood the whole flight.
Yeah, that is not a solution. The FAA is salivating at the thought of this. Everyone must have a seat for takeoff and landing.
That’s not how FAA regs work. There is no such thing as standing room on a plane.
Sure, but telling someone to leave their plane for some oddball reason is “only bad” not outright crazy like what happened then.
it was not the person calling the police.
At this point anyone calling the police in the US is a necessary accomplice, and guilty of conspiracy to commit murder, aggravated battery, and probably several other crimes.
And may still get killed by police.
That seems incredibly stupid. A doctor can afford to sue.
he wasn’t white, so they didn’t assume he was a doctor
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I got screeched at for covering up a super bright blinking light on a red eye. Their FAs are next level stupid.
They did what?
“The incident is widely characterized by critics as an example of mishandled customer service.”
Made me laugh, that’s putting it lightly…
They mishandled the shit out of him.
“The incident is widely characterized by critics as an example of
mishandledmanhandled customer service.”Just a typo.
Holy shit what a ride that was.
It’s clear from a lot of stories like this (severe customer mistreatment) that United employees are miserable people who hate their jobs but this is nuts. I hope Dr. Dao got a huge settlement from United.
Is United Express actually United? I thought those tended to be a regional carrier using the name under license.
I’d expect the labour friction to be still worse; I was peripherally involved with such a firm 20 years ago and know they had terrible problems with staff retention, mostly because they wouldn’t pay enough to retain people after they got fed up with the free-standby-flight privileges.
United is Four Seasons compared to American.
Wow. Even Trump thought they went too far. Damn.
And the CEO who brushed that assault off ‘suffered’ a ‘delayed promotion’. Poor thing. For saying that stuff about anyone, let alone a customer, he should have been fired, no golden parachute.
I think the doctor’s patients should have sued the airline too, since no doubt having their doctor pounded to a pulp caused them to miss their appointments.
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Overbooking should be a mandatory minimum compensation of the greater of 1000x the ticket price or $20k. It’s a truly fucked up practice to disrespect people’s time like that.
Oh, we’ll just refund you the cost of the ticket. That was the whole cost, right?
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Screens don’t hit back
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“If you don’t like it don’t fly”
Seriously just shut up.
Edit: LMAO just saw your other comment where you actually said this sincerely. You’re a parody of yourself.
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Have you ever turned a screen off on one of these planes? They turn back on. So you turn them off again. Sooner or later, they turn back on. And repeat.
Worse, you will be surrounded by them on all sides, as others don’t bother… :-(
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People like you constantly give corporations an inch because “it’s not a big deal” and here we are.
Hot take. Tell me more about me?
I saw you eat food dropped in a toilet.
I don’t think you’re being beaten up for it. I certainly am not beating you up for it. But usually, yeah, the screen does come back on during the flight. I think they turn it back on automatically every time there’s an announcement. As somebody who finds screens like that very distracting and even migraine-inducing (the “busyness” of that sort of thing is a big trigger), it’s really frustrating.
Where can I book a train to Europe?
Depends on the plane and system it has. Last United flight I was on it stayed off the entire flight. I use my phone and generally don’t look at it anyway but it was nicer I suppose.
I honestly couldn’t care less how many adverts they show me, they can have a constant stream of adverts the whole flight if it means that some shitty corporation is paying a portion of my travel coats.
People really need to grow up about stuff like this, if you don’t want adverts then pay for a premium service - I’m poor, I’ll accept the adverts.
That money isn’t subsidizing your flight cost, it’s increasing corporate profits.
Here’s the thing: companies have learned they can add ads to make additional money without passing any of that on to their customers.
If you think you’re going to get a better rate for having ads, you’re fooling yourself. They’ll always charge as much as they can get people to pay and that amount isn’t affected by ads most of the time.
This is thinking based on emotion not reality, most of the internet is free because of adverts so your belief that it’s not used to lower prices is clearly silly. Yes companies love profit but they often increase profits by lowering prices to attract more business, it’s a perfectly valid business model to use adverts to reduce the cost to the customer and increase customer volume.
No, you can’t.
You can if you’re a Party member
You can, there’s a button combo. It changes sometimes but if you spam a few things I can always black it out
But that’s not the point, it still sucks
This should count as violation of human rights. You’re chained to the seat for hours and have no other option than look at this screen or force your eyes closed. Holy shit, people should get really mad. Flashing ads on a screen you don’t look at directly are still very annoying, even if you look on your phone.
I need to start a business selling rectangular shaped covers for these displays. I’ll even make one that serves as a holder for an iPad, so you can substitute your own screen.
Duct tape
Make them magnetically attach to the screen.
I fold the slight safety manual and hang it over the screen with a tab, inserted into the folding gap above the screen.
You can turn off the TV dude
In my experience, that’s only temporary. The screen will always wake up again on United flights.
I wasn’t aware they glued your eyelids and head directly facing the screen
Found the boot licker
You can literally not watch things if you don’t want to.
Read a book.
🥾👅
Boot licking is when you are not easily distracted by shiny lights.
It’s when you suck oligarch cock
Y’all behave like they put a gun up to your head and force you to watch them ads lmao.
It’s mental how the simple thought of maybe do something else than watch the ads is met with such hostility lmao.
You know what doesn’t have ads (yet, anyway)? Mother fucking books.
You know what you can take on a plane with you? A mother fucking book.
Read a book.
I am just so, so tired of being constantly inundated with being told to CONSUME.
What else would you like to do? seize the means of production?
Yeah, but no one wants to join my radical anti-government militia.
Well, they do, but I’m in TN so it’s for the wrong reasons.
If you’re in a plane, you deserve it.
thanks, I’ll just abandon my family
Shouldn’t be that far away from them in the first place if you actually cared.
This is fucking hilarious. Do you know that sometimes, people go elsewhere for economic opportunities? Then they bring their children after they get settled in?
Sometimes they go back, and leave the children there.
Do you think those kids should be stranded?
I don’t care lol.
Work where you live, it’s not that hard.
sometimes people don’t want to live in the middle of nowhere forever. not many engineering jobs there. we all want economic mobility too
The ultimate quest for wealth is worth destroying the planet.
Also vast majority of people take planes for leisure, I’m sure we can deal without them. People used to travel the world in sail boats and they still managed to get where they wanted to go.
Careful, your ignorance is showing
Can it ever just stop?
Yes, for a monthly subscription!
We tried that in the 80s already. Here’s how it went down.
1980s comes along, and people had been seeing commercials on tv for years. So along comes this new concept. Now you can PAY to watch tv…without ads. GREAT!
So people started paying for this new “cable tv”. Then the cable operators were like “I know they’re paying to not see ads…but what if we STILL showed ads, and STILL took their money???”
So that happened.
Then after some decades Netflix came around, originally with liscensed tv shows from all over tv…except now you could PAY to watch them, without the ads. And then they drastically lost their liscensed content, and produced their own original content.
After a few decades, Netflix said “I know they’re paying not to see commercials…but what if we STARTED showing commercials, AND raised prices every few months.”
Man, I can’t wait for the next guy to charge me money to not see ads. Only to inevitably show me ads a few years later…
What if I were to buy back all my own DVDs and watch them? Would I need to voluntarily show myself ads later?
Don’t worry the TV you are watching it on got you covered. https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/tv/how-to-exit-samsung-tv-plus-fix-how-to-disable-samsung-ads-fix/td-p/9352840
I do look forward to the next generation of ad free media consumption powered by a small VC startup fund that has a bunch of low cost fresh-out-of-university students paid mostly in stocks working in a garage to say “yeah fuck this I’ve seen ads all my life in gonna do make something that doesn’t make people hate life”
Each iteration of the technology eventually becomes hot garbage. But man, for like a decade there shit is pretty good while the rest of the entrenched industry is stuck trying to pay lobbyists to get law makers to write rules that neither side understands just to have them ultimately not get passed or not address the issue and those companies still disappear.
So I am going to sit down and the screen will be full of penis enlargement pills? What will all the hot singles in the area think?
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If you’re getting targeted ads for penis enlargement pills, then the system thinks you have a small pp. If this is an error, you should submit photographic evidence to their office to prove you don’t have a small pp.
Insert penis here
…that will now reflect the information United has compiled on individual travelers, like where they live and destinations they’ve traveled to.
I, for one, can’t wait to have my personal info proudly displayed to whatever randos they seat next to me! /s
fuck with the algorithm make it show ads for porno and then they’ll stop doing it
I assume they won’t allow porns in ads, but you can still get worse stuff than porn, like erectile dysfunction medication ads which causes people around your seat to look at you with sorry eyes.
Or just corrupt it till its weird ass surreal local ads. May take some work though.
Yeah, this is going to be hell for flight attendants having to deal with rightfully upset passengers.
More to consider when selecting an airline. Greedy fuckers, I hope their stock takes a nosedive thanks to this
It’ll probably take a small dip and then rise quite a bit once profits from implementing it start rolling in
‘Capitalism breeds innovation’
The innovation
Seriously. It’s nearly a sure thing. I should buy on Monday and see how it goes. People are sleepwalking about adtech shit so they’ll continue to fly United. There’s already a dude in this thread telling people to chill and just don’t fly if they don’t like it. The ad revenue should be pretty juicy, too. They have a bored captive audience identified by full name and credit card number.
And if it succesful, or at least passenger doesn’t boycott them over it, it is just a question of time until other airlines adds it as well
Part of the problem is that UA is such a massive airline, odds are any alternatives would involve quite a bit of sacrifice. Not many people would be willing or can afford to take an extra 2 layovers or 50%+ extra travel time or cost in order to get to where they want to go 🫤 That’s not to say I won’t try my best to avoid UA though, I was already sick of them after my last trip and now I find this news.
Classic late stage capitalism, where humans’ sole reason for existence is being advertised to. Soon we’ll start putting ads in incubators too, and invalidate this Onion article: https://www.theonion.com/17-days-in-incubator-longest-time-premature-baby-will-g-1851456014
About a decade ago Fox News got brought to court, and had to defend themselves against the idea that their content wasn’t actually factually accurate most of the time. Therefore not “news”.
Fox responded by saying that their program wasn’t meant to be news. I forget the exact quote, I’m sure duckduckgo is your friend, but it was along the lines of “No reasonable person would ever consume Fox News content and believe it to be trustworthy accurate news. It is an opinionated entertainment show about the news.”
I don’t remember their tagline at the time, but it was something along the lines of “Fox News is your only outlet for unbiased news!” Something to that effect. I just remember Jon Stewart calling out the hypocrasy of their tagline being the exact opposite of what they said in court.
If Fox News is entertainment meant to push the agenda that the right is right, and if CNN is entertainment meant to push the agenda that the left is right, then I don’t see why The Onion can’t join them as entertainment meant to push the agenda that the whole world is fucking stupid.
Still operating as a “real news source”, except it’s all bullshit like Fox News and CNN. Just entertainment.
Same thing happened with “VitaminWater”, a product in the category of “enhanced water” (a term reminiscent of “enhanced interrogation technique”). Coca-Cola argued that, despite the name, no reasonable person would believe it’s actually healthy. They settled.
Targeted, individualized, advertising should be illegal. This will gut a lot of the motivations for the privacy invasions and data harvesting. This is how advertising worked for thousands of years. I think it could continue to be just fine.
The amount of resources humanity is spending on targeted advertising is extremely depressing when you consider the opportunity cost. There are thousands of engineers and product managers that spend all day on this stuff instead of anything useful.
This is an interesting idea!
Including the opt out link in the announcement article is a good guy move on the writer’s part. Thanks, Kate. You’re a pal.
I requested opt out and they requested my ID. lol! So they’re demanding more info to opt out of info collection.
How are they going to identify who is opting out without being able to match it to the person in the seat…?
Your united data is going to be tied to an email. They could just use that. It’s reasonable to see this as further invasiveness, similar to Meta™ account recovery.
Email validation.
Say you’re from California on the form and it’ll change what you have to enter. You don’t have to put in an address or verify CA residency.
That’s what I did. It says they’ll be following up to get ID.
Weird, I didn’t see that. fingers crossed it’s a bluff lol
I already dislike the experience of being with other passengers on United. Nothing negative occurred on my part, just noticed how badly behaved other passengers were compared to every other airline I’ve flown.
My point is, I wouldn’t pick United to fly as my first choice.
Have you ever flown on a Frontier or Spirit flight?
No
You would think otherwise by your username.
The thing I hate is that all these airline screens usually default to “on”, and people tend to leave defaults. I’m a tall person, and can usually see a large number of the screens in front of me. So if I’m on a night flight, even if I don’t intend to sleep, the only way to not be blinded by dozens of ads for a few hours is to bring a sleep mask.
I feel so bad for tall people on planes. It’s uncomfortable AF for all of us, but you guys have to become human origami just to sit. It’s insane that this shit is legal. I avoid flying as much as possible.
It’s uncomfortable AF for all of us
Idk, I’m pretty comfortable on planes, and I’m around 5’8 lol
Also, ths taller you are, the more likely you are to be seriously injured in severe turbulence, malfunctions, minor crashes and major crashes.
I’m tall and fat it’s a double whammy. Granted one I’ve done to myself, luckily I generally only fly with my wife so I can get the isle seat to stretch
They also automatically turn the screens back on repeatedly after you turn them off.
I use a baseball cap pulled down. Works well for me
Can’t wait to see adds for prostate exams or erectile malfunction on a plane when I get older.
Psssshhhhh, you won’t see them. It’s a 3 hour plane ride where you have no responsibilities, surrounded by people that by this point in the day you already can’t stand.
At that age, you’re telling me you WON’T fall asleep???
“At that age”
Buddy, how old do you think people are when they’re supposed to start checking for prostate cancer?
Just a few hours away from returning back to the dirt in the ground surely?
On their deathbed, a man shows up to deliver strong pentrative action to a geriatric patient.
Ya know, send em’ out with a bang.
I don’t know about prostate cancer, but I do know that apperently I waited too long to check for colon cancer. Just spent a year recovering, and I’m only 40. It was probably there already for a number of years.
So, start getting screened when you’re 5 years old, I guess…
I wear a sleep mask on flights and once my IEMs go in they don’t come out until we’re about to land. In short, I don’t see or hear shit.
IEMs?
In-Ear-Monitors. I envy your ignorance. I was once like you. Now I’m broke.
Let’s talk about your collection
Hey Migrator! I began with a bunch of KZs, thought I’m smart. Then came in my Shures. Then I found Z Reviews (fuck that guy for showing me this world). Tin T1 planar. Tin T2 on the side. CA Andromedas came in on my birthday. I got IKKO OH10 thinking it’s just an itch. Now I’m sitting on Hifiman HE400SE, two DAPs, one Little Bear portable amp, one Toppings MX5, Q acoustics 330i, Topping NX7 and shitty Sony WXM5. What is worse is I want a dongle to go with my laptop. The worst part of all this - I think I’m reasonable. I’m not even remotely rich. These purchases are huge for me. I’m crying now, but damn does my music sound good.
I once thought of purchasing the big boys (for me, in a relative sense) like the Softears RSV, the IER-M9, the Anole VX and perhaps even the U18T.
Then, I reasoned with myself, and thought I’d settle for less. I began aiming for the DUNU SA6 MK2 (I somewhat treble sensitive and the MK2’s graph looked even better to me). Maybe the Oracle OG as a reference set.
Now, I’ve become cheap. I no longer desire for such luxuries, even though it’d be amazing to have them. I now look at the Audiosense DT600 as my preferred target and IEM, and an apple dongle for my laptop and phone.
I do sometimes wonder about the whatifs…the thing is, amidst all of the thinking I did, I didn’t actually buy anything. I’m waiting to be blown away by my endless collection of FLAC when I do get the IEMs I want.
Great collection BTW, but like every other guy on Crinacle’s livestream: try not to stay trapped in mid-fi hell. CA Andromedas are cool though. Ever thought of the IER-M9/U12t for a relaxing signature?
Thanks. You’re way ahead of me. I agree with you. I want to go beyond. My wallet holds me back most of the times. Other times, it’s because shipping is a problem. But I get you. After listening to stuff, I understand & appreciate anything that does not feel like a task just to wear. Tin2 gave me that feeling - to some extent. The M9 is what I was also considering when I was thinking about the WXM5s. I chickened out because for some reason, my mind associates wear-ability with the sound signature. Yes, I know - it’s dumb, like I said, it’s in my head. U12t is just within my reach. Just. Maybe a New Year present for myself. I dislike Apple with every shred of my body, but their dongle is respectfully in my good books. Still, I will never stoop that low to have anything Apple as my possession - no offense. Because I paced through the low tier, by the time I got to where I am, I found good speakers. Work keeps me stuck to the WXM5s, so my ascent beyond the mid-fi has mellowed. I do aim to mature as much as you, but I want it to be natural. I’m happy accessibility is improving by the minute, both for items & music, so I’m sure it will be soon.
And I completely forgot to say: wait till you listen to TOTL headphones. I once listened to the HE1000v2 pair, and except for the bright tuning, bloody hell they make you feel like you’re part of the sound. It’s a tear-inducing feeling, especially if you’ve never done TOTLs before.
LCDs are also up there, the new LCD-X really hit my warmish-preferences well. I liked that pair. Maybe someday eh?
I will mention that even though I haven’t bought the IEMs I mentioned, I have tried them. And every one of them blew me away, bar the ones which are a bit “softer” like the M9/U12t (which I think are better buys for the long-term unless someone has a lot to spend). Also, the M9 is exceptionally comfortable for me
EE Odin was notable alongside the Anole VX as very resolving and fabulously textured. These might be the best TOTLs I have tried. If you have a budget of around $500 I’d suggest looking at the Mega5EST, DMS has a review of it on the Heaphone Show and from the FR it’s an insanely balanced set.
No worries, and I’m not all that you think lol. I really just got lucky with knowing what I want, and my wallet forcing my hand.
Edit: I didn’t know there were shipping issues with the Chinese brands. AFAIK Hifigo/Linsoul/Aliexpress will ship anywhere really
Basically earbuds, but if someone uses the acronym outside the context of stage or studio work, they are trying to tell everyone that they only use earbuds that are qUaLitY
The shape is significantly different than traditional earbuds, they generally isolate sound better, and they almost always have a removable cable.
You can get really cheap ones, but the name actually does tell you stuff.
I used to be a stage and studio musician, and I still use customs outside of that context. I’m just saying that if I’m talking to someone about casual listening, there’s no way I’m specifying “IEMs” over “earbuds”. IMO same kind of energy as saying “I used my Arch desktop” when you could say “I used my computer”
“IEMs” is shorter to type than “earbuds”. You mistake my laziness for something other than what it is.
P.S.
I use Void. :p
😂 🤷 Ya that didn’t occur to me; prolly cuz I think I think I’ve only ever typed IEM when doing a search, so didn’t think about typing-length. But I still stand that that’s the vibe it gives off in casual conversation.
IDK. Earbuds are a different thing. I call them IEMs because that’s what they are.🤷🏼♀️
They’re IEMs, and earphones are a colloquialism. Nobody is stuck up if they call it an IEM, if someone doesn’t know we extrapolate for them. I don’t see the problem.
I am an IEM enjoyer (used to own Softears but don’t need them anymore), and I use Debian.
A true Debian user would never tell us that they use Debian. They would say they use Debian Testing’. BTW.
Ear buds where the cost goes to quality and isolation as opposed to gimmicks/Bluetooth/functionality.
Airpods are amazing for casual use.
IEMs (with a cable, of course) are amazing for music.It’s what musicians use on stage to hear what everyone is doing (iems and individual mixes are so accessible these days, used to be super $$$$ per iem mix).
They range from budget (1 driver per bud) to decent (3-5 drivers per bud) to esoteric (like 16 drivers per bud).
Most have modular cables that disconnect at the earbud (so when the cable breaks you are paying thousands for a new set. Or to get custom cable lengths).
And all decent brands can be custom moulded to your ear, so you go to a hearing specialist, they will cast your ear, and you send that to the manufacturers and they will send you moulded IEMs. They are very comfy.
Some brands have a DIY moulding process, but I wouldn’t trust myself!If you are into live music & loud gigs, even loud clubs, I really strongly recommend you get a moulded set of earplugs with 10db attenuation. They are for musicians and have as flat a response as is possible, and will take the edge off any hearing damage.
As others have said, “in-ear monitors.” However, it’s not technically about the quality. Earphones sit in the outer ear, while IEMs go at least a little bit into the ear canal. They do better with blocking out sound, which is better for audio quality, but sometimes you want to be able to hear things around you, so it’s a matter of context.
Also, while audiophiles can get wild with it (and there’s a lot of snake oil in that area), I just got some Salnotes Zeros for <$20 and they’re great.
