• Murse@slrpnk.net
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    When I was piss broke I got fat as fuck. Cheap food is 99% insanely processed carbs. Fills ya up, but it absolutely destroys your body.

    Pet peeve of mine nowadays when I hear someone give a low income person shit for being fat… “Hurr durr looks like they can afford to eat!” Fuck you!

    Um… /rant lol.

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      You know nothing forces you to eat when you’re feeling hungry? The body is capable of sustaining itself off its fat stores, that’s what they’re for.

      Yes, cheap food might be carb heavy and less satiating than expensive fresh veggies. But at the end of the day cheap food wasn’t the reason you got fat, your inability to deal with being hungry was

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        I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Simply not eating isn’t a healthy way to lose weight. Just eating a smaller quantity of food that already isn’t nutritionally dense in the first place can also lead to a variety of issues and deficiencies.

        The weight gain associated with eating cheap, hyper processed foods is only the most visible consequence. Most obese people actually suffer from malnutrition. Eating isn’t as simple as calories in and out, so simply advising people to eat less is not only ignorant, but it can also be dangerous. Not to mention you sound like you’re not being very empathetic to the person you decided to argue with.

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        Correct, but alas, I -like most people- am not a fucking robot. Our behavior is influenced heavily by our chemistry, and while we have the ability consciously go against what the entirety of our species’ evolution is compelling us to do, we tend not to. Cuz that’s literally how we’re wired.

        Tolerating the sensation of even moderate hunger is agonizing over long periods - if the choice is between that and getting fat, I’m getting fat.

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          Tolerating the sensation of even moderate hunger is agonizing over long periods - if the choice is between that and getting fat, I’m getting fat.

          That is perfectly reasonable and your choice to make. But don’t blame your lack of self control on cheap food

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            The cheap food is secondary to the poverty, and the decision to eat it for price over health is secondary to our evolutionary biology.

            These stand out as pretty reasonable things to blame.

            The take of “you don’t want to feel tortured 24/7 and the only way not to is unhealthy? Well that’s your fault!” …is pretty fuckin bonkers.

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        Cook as if feeding an army. Freeze extra servings if you can. Saves me a lot of time both in cooking and the cleaning.

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        Yes, but depending on what you buy. If you stay regional, seasonal and somewhat on the boring side, veggies are incredibly cheap. Get a sack of potatoes, onions and carrots and you have a lot you can work with for relatively cheap.

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          Not really. I can walk in 85% of the grocery stores in the US and there is a ton of non regional shit for dirt cheap.

          People are just lazy and/or tired and overworked.

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            Yes, I think regional has a different meaning in our time. I meant from roughly the continent I’m currently at.

            But even that isn’t necessarily true. I guess I just want to buy regional because I don’t want my vegetables to have traveled further than me just for nothing.

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    For me it’s the stress induced appetite loss. Got diet counseling at my well visit but Even the doc had to admit that my bmi staying >18 is more important than veggies. I’ll absolutely murder some well seasoned veggies on a good day but some days I eat like 10 zebra cakes but nothing else because they’re the only thing that spark my appetite enough to actually put in my mouth.

    As a side note, I think the fitness peeps are right that ultimately weight loss / gain is Calories-In/Calories-Out but the part they’re ignoring is stress-related appetite changes.

    When my body is stressed my appetite just drops. It’s not a conscious control thing like with an eating disorder I just get nauseous all the time and everything starts tasting like sand. I’m like one of those kids with cancer where the nurses just let them eat cake and ice cream and milkshakes all the time because it’s the only way to keep calories going in. It doesn’t make the weight loss healthy at all, in fact it’s way more immediately dangerous than being overweight. Being overweight will kill you over the course of about a decade. If I accidentally drop 40lb again I could die this year. Some people just get an appetite increase when they’re stressed and some don’t or get the opposite and applying a moral judgment to that is insane.

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    For me it was depression.

    Side note: in general don’t comment on peoples’ bodies regardless of intention

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      I love people taking about my body. Don’t make assumptions for everyone. Telling a friend they look great can be a huge confidence builder.

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        I mean I like comments on my body in a sex context, but not otherwise. So I just communicate that when relevant. I still stand by avoiding body comments in general, unless stated otherwise.

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      Mine is being chronically ill. With this miracle diet, you too, can become thin!*

      *Side effects can include: looking like a cancer patient/skeleton/drug addict, losing hair, losing intestines, major depression, etc…

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        Yea it is and i do eat a fair amount of real peanut butter. I am chronically underweight and trying to build muscle so i need some extra carbs in my diet.

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            Chicken breast is good. If it gets dry it can be hard to chew and get down. Been doing a lot of milk, ground beef, and rice. My biggest thing has been putting food in me every 2-3 hours. If i wait til I’m hungry I’m definitely behind.