Anyone else dislike having Irish heritage? The hatred still runs deep over here.
Black people don’t own the patent on suffering, sorry. Plenty of other races and people’s have had a bad time, often at the hands of overlords.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that on a global scale though colonial/Western powers did decimate Africa and continue to actively prevent its advancement via neocolonialism there.
But if we’re talking about American history then we need to be transparent about the fact that this was an apartheid state until about half a century ago and the consequences of that reverberate to the present day.
You probably mean well, but this rings of “all lives matter.” There’s nothing wrong with pointing out injustice and oppression, in isolation. The issue lies in using it as a rebuttal to the suffering of others. “The Irish were enslaved” is fine, but “white people were slaves, too,” is minimizing the vast industry of oppression that was the slave trade.
No one is claiming a patent on suffering, but you are minimizing theirs. You can acknowledge suffering without trying to draw comparisons, and especially without the strawman argument. The phrase “black people don’t own the patent on suffering, sorry” rings of resentment and snark, and isn’t at all representative of most black people’s view of human suffering. Oppressed people support each other and prop each other up. We aren’t measuring each other’s suffering or keeping score. Some of my greatest allies are people that don’t share my own personal struggle, but relate with their own, and I likewise support them (I am a queer white woman).
No he isn’t. Im sorry you feel that way.
That’s fair. I also failed to notice it was right out of Sinners?! I was attacking the idea without thinking of the context.
Yeah, and which races are STILL suffering the consequences of that very recent bad time in USA?
The native americans or whatever the specific tribe wishes to be called. Lol
Lol
Haha, yeah, human suffering and injustice are hilarious. Anyway, you’re so smart, you figured out half of the answer, look at you! Wow!
Yeah, native and black americans. So what’s the point of the original comment? Should the USA have a white history month, learning about white prisoners of war being slaves 2000 years ago?
I want to fuck his balls off
Who is he?
Johnny Irelandland
His name is
RemmickJack O’Connell and he’s anIrish vampireEnglishman.
In the spirit of shit posting: How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman?
None.
Hearing this joke in 1845
That guy is all neck!
I heard that joke in middleschool in the us. It was written on my friends bullet proof vest 🙃
Eyyyyyyyyyyy
You’re on the board
It is true that Irish people were used as slaves, it just wasn’t done at a systematic scale equivalent to the African slave trade. The abduction of people from Africa was a global industry, and the scale that it operated at created inhuman horrors that are not really comparable to anything else (except maybe present-day Xinjiang).
You’re absolutely right, the scale of the transatlantic slave trade was greater than ever before seen in human history.
Somewhere between 1 in 5 to 1 in 6 died on the journey alone.
One needs to also be aware that slavery as practiced by modern Western colonial empires was even more cruel than how slavery was practiced traditionally even dating back to antiquity.
In most of the world slavery was often contingent and there were several pathways to manumission (freedom). It was not an inherited status by default (partus sequiter ventrum).
The Western colonial empires very much perceived the entire world according to a race based caste system where Europeans were the highest caste and those of African descent were the lowest. Complexion defined your worth as a person. They spread this worldview globally, which has poisoned so many minds over centuries, and the world is still recovering from it to this day.
America adopted and upheld this race based caste system until the civil rights act passed in the 1960s (within the lifetimes of many of parents/grandparents). During the American era of slavery, slaves had no legal rights. They did not have personhood. Children of slaves were automatically also slaves from birth. Slaves could be grieviously injured or killed with impunity. They were seen as property, or livestock.
This is not how slavery was practiced historically around the world.
In fact, even ancient Greece and Rome (both of which thrived on slavery) had more legal protections and pathways to freedom. Slavery was not race based. In many cases, they had earnings and could eventually buy their freedom. In Rome they could be set free by an owner and become Roman citizens.
None of this is taught in American history likely because the ruling class worries it would hurt the average person’s national pride and the ability to exert control over them. But the truth is no society can improve without honestly reflecting on its past so I hope there will be some that learn from this.
does anyone remember how the Koreans had enslavement for 2000 years that resulted in an entire caste system being developed to just maintain control of their property.
oh…just me? ok…
Listen only african slaves in the usa count. Definitely not the historic african slaves in africa and especially not the current slaves in africa or anywhere else lol
Fuck you one was to many.
One is too many, but, the in American discourse at least, the implied equivalence is used to undercut and diminish the Atlantic slave trade, which I think no one can dispute echoes much louder into our present day.
One is too many, and I don’t mean to diminish that but at least in the context of the US I would argue there is slavery, and then there is Slavery.
You’re right rape is cool as long as im raping you, but if you try to rape me then itis a serious problem. Plus it was only a small number of times I raped you. /s
I’ve sat here and read this carefully a few times and I do not follow your point. Who is me and who is you in this scenario? Is you Ireland? And is me America or who is Africa? How does this seeming reciprocal rape relate to either, or indeed any, slavery situation?
I’m going back to reread the Wikipedia article just in case you’re too deep for me.
All slavery matters does that help your wee brain or do you prefer the buzzword irish slaves matter?
Is anything I said incompatible with the statement all slavery matters?
I hope at some point you can find happiness in your life.
If people started using their brains and think for themselves it would bring happiness into my life.
They were oppressed and exploited to the point of famine. It’s not slavery, but it rhymes.
Not to just fall for the meme but…
Definitely over the threshold of slavery light with zero sugar
Totally trust the english they would never lie about history especially if it painted a negative image upon the pedophile royal family .
You might want do a little more research.
If I punch you in the nose and call it a kiss, the blood runs the same.
Take the soup already.
