The Washington Post reported that activists are working with the White House on an executive order to declare a “national emergency” over America’s elections and pave the way for a power grab.

“Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17-page draft executive order that claims China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting,” reported the Post‘s Isaac Arnsdorf. “President Donald Trump has repeatedly previewed a plan to mandate voter ID and ban mail ballots in November’s midterm elections, and the activists expect their draft will figure into Trump’s promised executive order on the issue.”

Peter Ticktin, a MAGA activist in favor of the executive order, told the Post that “we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election processes,” and that “the president has to be able to deal with it,” including by banning mail-in ballots and certain voting machines.

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    The only thing holding a lot of Americans back from violence is the knowledge that that’s exactly the excuse the regime wants to declare martial law and suspend elections. If they just jump to suspending fair elections anyway, then there will be nothing to stop the gloves from coming off. The billionaires and Congress creatures better run for their bunkers. Anybody that the people perceive as having a hand in getting us to this point, either through direct action or failure to react, won’t be safe.

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      The only thing holding a lot of Americans back from violence is the knowledge that that’s exactly the excuse the regime wants to declare martial law and suspend elections.

      The only things holding Americans back from violence are relatively abundant food, entertainment and comfort. All of which will still continue to exist once free elections are gone. Plus what they replace them with will be branded super duper free elections, and that will be enough for a lot of people.

      There is little to no evidence that the 1/3rd of eligible voters who didn’t vote in Nov 2024 are any more engaged with what is happening than they were back then.

      All they have to do is orchestrate this coup in a somewhat intelligent way that doesn’t immediately collapse the economy and they can absolutely pull it off.

      Most Americans are not going to fight for abstract rights when their immediate tangible needs are being met.

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      Sounds like an excuse, no dictator has ever been held at bay by lack of action and this regime is not shy of pulling stuff directly from their asses.

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    States should declare emergencies first and protect themselves from the fed. Elections are handled by each state, not the government.

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    we held elections during a literal civil war. What “emergency” could trump that with all our modern life improvements and… checks notes. No civil war in America…

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      What “emergency” could trump that with

      He has no trouble pulling random excuses out of his ass.

      And on the rare occasion the courts eventually tell him to stop, he will have been doing whatever he wants for months and moths before he is told to stop.

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      Because “emergencies” are the Wild cards given to the Executive Branch by Congress and SCOTUS. There’s no clear definition and no boundaries until he’s challenged in court or Congress overrules him.

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        And if he waits six months before declaring an emergency, there would not be time for the court to annul it

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        And at this stage, Republican congresscritters voting for fair elections is as likely as turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.

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    Prediction: None of this so called evidence will ever make an appearance in a court room.

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        The French didn’t exactly speed run it themselves.

        I’m currently listening to old episodes of the Revolutions podcast, and am midway through the French and it bares no resemblance to what’s going on now. Which, when it gets to the reign of terror, might be a good thing… But that’s the one part of it that I could see happening again.

        A lot of the terror was fueled by a murderous little shit with a bootleg newspaper. There’s a reason why lible and slander laws are so powerful in that part of Europe.

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          The administration bears no resembelence to the french revolution, more to when the rich back a dictator to ptotect them from reform and that dictator ends up cannibalizing them, like with Sulla in rome a generation before caesar. Or obviously hitler.

          He’s so old though, the succession will decide it, if they can hold onto it and fix elections for the new guy, with dems being the opposition I don’t see what would stop them either, certainly not newsome.

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          Along with a systematic elimination of the nobility and upper levels of the clergy, it was a post-revolutionary faction fight between the middle class (for example, provincial lawyers like Robespierre before he became a pamphleteer) and the working class.

          The 1789 revolutionaries didn’t really have much of a plan to govern in the unlikely event of victory, so they started improvising, and that didn’t go well. It also didn’t help that the leaders of every other country in western Europe wanted them dead.

          The American revolution, on the other hand, was bourgeois-led, with minimal involvement by working people, and they learned a lot from their initial failed attempt at governance, the Continental Congress, so by the time they wrote the Constitution, they had at least some idea of what would work and what wouldn’t.

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          The Revolutions podcast is a gold mine. Have you listened to the latest season? You’re in for a big surprise if you haven’t :)

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        Saw a nice sign in a nearby town: “They want 1939 but they’ll get 1789.”

        At least some people are starting to get it.

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        Can we stop with this? This is a ridiculous fantasy that just makes you look immature.

        It’s too boring for American audiences. Now, woodchippers on the other hand…

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          I’d be more in favor of sending them to their favorite place on earth: Epstein’s island. No supplies, no running water, no help. Just a webcam and maybe a drone once in a while.

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          Woodchippers can’t handle the moisture content, but this is literally what industrial meat grinders are built for.

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          Or maybe it’s time to revive the method used to rid the world of Manius Aquillius: molten gold forced down the throat.

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    The Chinese government hates the US and, if they interfered successfully, would have done so to get Trump into office, since that would cause the most damage.

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      Huh? It’s our own election system. 2 corrupt parties for a long time. Candidates nobody wants and this is the result

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        The flood of troll farm misinformation and lies by both China and Russia as well as right wing ownership of MSM all aided in trump’s rise. Yeah, our shitty electoral college that is DEI for mostly empty States handed trump the win.

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            Both can be true at the same time. The extreme corruption of both parties because both are beholden to oligarchs are causing frustration, which is being amplified by troll farms.

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            Plenty of people voted for them. You just outed yourself. The only reason Trump is in is because 50% of Americans would not support a woman in office. I mean, who would want a moody, vindictive asshole leading with their emotions rather than their brain?! Right…

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              Bro. People looked at first term. First term was different as he had no power. And everyone is tired of corrupt status quo. So they chose trump over another typical politician. Yes it didn’t work out, but there were many reasons why people voted trump

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                The reasons people voted for Trump are racism and greed. Anything else is just lip service they tell themselves to make themselves feel better after their massive fuckup.

                Edit: because let’s be clear, everyone told the fucking dipshits what would happen as a result of a Trump presidency. Everything they said came true, the magats blamed Biden, and then they voted for Trump again.

                I am really struggling not to use the word ret*rds when talking about them.

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    Even if it were true that China stole the election, how is “something happened 6 years ago” an emergency? He won in 2024, so it can’t be that effective anymore.

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      It’s an emergency because if he leaves it alone Republicans are going to tank hard in the midterms which will mean he loses power and might even be held accountable for his crimes.

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        might even be held accountable for his crimes.

        HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahabhababahabababHhahahahahhahaha…

        Ughh… I hate that the thought of aliens coming directly to my house, handing me a winning lotto ticket, while they simultaneously get struck by lightning twice in a row and get bitten by a shark seems 1000000x more likely to happen than for Trump to ever face consequences for his actions.

        If anyone even started that process “judge” Aileen Cannon would jump from the top rope and bodyslam the case shut with a “Trump is immune because I say so” ruling like she’s been doing this entire time.

        :(

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          So just as a bit of hopium. Bitch Cannon could be impeached by congress, if it’s a bad enough wipeout for the Republicans in the midterms I could see some of them turning on Trump and cutting his little network up to make themselves look better. Assuming they don’t decide to go scorched earth and impeach, convict, and execute Trump.

          Though more likely they’ll lose the Senate and it gridlocks. Which would still fuck over Trump since then he would basically be locked from passing any laws.

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            Not that he’s passing many laws now. The 119th congress has been the least productive congress maybe ever. Most of the shit he’s doing is just illegally pretending he has the authority to do the shit, then waiting until someone proves he can’t.

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              Yep which Congress if flipped could respond to in any number of ways. Anything from refusing to fund fuck all to something as actively malicious as dissolving presidential security. Really my point was moreso that if Congress is retaken Cannon wouldn’t be able to do fuck all, hell if I’m not mistaken she could even be impeached by congress if they were able to scrounge up the required votes.

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                He’s been ruling by decree, the Congress does nothing to stop him, and the courts are slow and badly corrupted.

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        might even be held accountable for his crimes.

        Yeah, I’m sure Democrats will get right on that and not just bleat out platitudes about healing and moving on.

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      He will just never get over the fact that he lost in 2020. And he’s willing to make all of America suffer for his butthurt.

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        He cheated in 16, he cheated in '20 and still lost. Him being a man who has never competed fairly in his life assumed the Dems cheated harder. Turns out the high number of mail in ballots threw off his scheme and he lost. The time to declare a national emergency over voting was in 2016 after he won. The silent majority doesn’t exist. The polls are accurate. He’s a fucking loser who aligned himself with adversaries to steal democracy and fuck this country supremely and make the wealth divide even worse. The fact that the Dems went along with him winning in '24 and didn’t contest it at all despite the statistical anomalies in swing states is just fucking unbelievable. This ass clown is supposed to be in a cell, but he’s the fucking president because Joe and Kamala were fucking spineless. Trump did not win all 7 swing states, and once they nationalize voting, it will be forever rigged, and in Trump’s own words, “you’ll never have to vote again”.

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          The fact that the Dems went along with him winning in '24 and didn’t contest it at all despite the statistical anomalies in swing states is just fucking unbelievable.

          THANK YOU. I was starting to think I was the only one still incandescent with rage over this.

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          Yeah the guy who cheats against kids in golf is not playing a clean game in a national election. Mean the dude lies like a sidewalk and aome people wonder why he doesn’t do what he promised. Cause he’s a fucking con man, grifter. He’s the guy they’d tar and feather back in the day if he stuck around long enough.

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      It hurt hurt his feelings bigly. And if anyone, anywhere has ever hurt Donny’s feelings then it is a national emergency.

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    activists

    The Washington Post thinks that traitorous conspiracies on the right are equivalent to protests and demonstrations by other types of “activist?”

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      The same Washington Post owned by billionaire Jeff Bezos? I’m shocked!

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    By Wikipedias count there are presently 51 on-going national emergencies in USA, 19 of them have been declared by Trump.

    The oldest still active one was made by Carter in 1979, it’s a sanction on Iran.

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        That’s the thing though - there are no courts to be involved here. Every state runs their own elections. There’s nothing he can do other than send federal law enforcement to essentially be poll watchers in every single voting location.

        The red states can continue their bullshittery. I don’t see any blue states allowing that.

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    If this happens and civil war doesn’t break out than I fear good people will have lost.

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      “They say evil wins when good people do nothing. I disagree, it should just be ‘evil wins’.”

      So I’m of the opinion that it should be as costly a victory for the bastards as possible.

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    Bold move in a nation with more guns than people.

    I’m not against a Gaddafi or Mussolini ending at all.

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    If he starts the civil war by ending our vote, do we get to start hitting Ice agents with our cars?

    Also make sure to be going 40 or over or they get back up.