• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    It honestly wouldn’t be so bad if there weren’t so fucking many golf courses.

    If there were 25 golf courses per US state, we would have 1250 golf courses - or less than 10% of the number we currently have.

    I guess the rich don’t want to have to share a space with the filthy middle class, or something.

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    14 hours ago

    all that, and regular golf is incredibly wasteful with water. it’s sickening. plus the fact that it’s a historically racist as fuck sport, fuck golf, fuck golfers. Oh and they expect their neighbors to subsidize their hobby (see muni golf courses) - get fucked

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    11 hours ago

    If I remember George Carlins bit correctly the amount of golf courses in the US took up two rhode islands and a delaware worth of space once counted up. He argued we should turn it into homeless shelters and public housing, and to let the golfers test actual skill at the mini-golf. Actually looking at it semantically I wonder if the word mini-golf exist just to demean it compared to big boy real golf.

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    i lived in Aberdeen, birthplace of golf.

    it’s such a different experience there.

    practically everyone golfs, all ages/genders/ethnicities, families, friends, neighbours, working class, poor, rich…

    Golf grass grows naturally there and doesn’t need extra water.

    people just walk to the closest golf course.

    Electric buggies are banned in most courses, in a game you can end up walking a few km, actual outdoor exercise.

    it’s so different than the rest of the world, where it is upperclass or upperclass pretending, beers in electric buggies, expensive clubhouses…

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    15 hours ago

    Balls are only white

    You don’t have to use a white ball for regular golf. But it does make it harder to see dark colors like red, blue or green.

    Also: There should be at least 1 MegaGolf course. It’s like minigolf, with the goofy obstacles and shit, but it’s the size of a normal golf course. So you still gotta hit the ball through a clown’s mouth or a windmill, but they are now 150-300 yards away.

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    I don’t play except once every couple of years… and poorly. But it isn’t as wasteful on water as you think. They often use some form of recycled water, and once it is on the ground it doesn’t just go away. Much of it goes deeper into the ground, getting filtered naturally, and ends up back in an underground aquifer. The “loss” is just in evaporation. Which of course eventually comes back as rain. Some percentage of that ends up in the ocean. That part is more or less lost as drinkable water. But recycled water often wasn’t drinkable to start with.

    It’s really the fertalizers that are the problem I believe.

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      10 hours ago

      I was an irrigation tech at a 27 hole golf course a while back. We had the reclaim system you’re talking about and a retention lake that we would pull from. During the winter (Florida) it was pretty close to a stable system. There wasn’t much loss to evaporation and our lake didn’t need to be refilled. During the summer and especially in droughts, more than half our water was city water supplementing our lake. We would pump about 1 million gallons of water per night normally. In the summer and drought seasons it could be closer to 2 million per night and half of that was city water. We were a smaller course too, some of the PGA 36 hole courses could easily double those numbers. Golf courses are a blight on the land and a giant waste of all kinds of resources.

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        27 hole is not small. The majority of courses out there are 9 or 18. And the recycled water I was talking about came from outside the course. Usually part of the waste water system in the area. That’s probably less common in Florida though. I am amzed you could be stable in the winter. I didn’t know reclimation could be that effective.

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          My mistake, I hadn’t considered the recycled water would be supplied by the city like that. Where I was it was mostly retention ponds like I mentioned. As for being stable in winter, that really depended on rain. If we got a decent rain a few times a month it would mostly even out, but even then we still needed topping off from time to time.

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            Yeah, even though they can treat sewage enough to make it safe to drink, most people don’t want to anyway. So they often send it to golf courses, water features, sometimes very large companies will use it if they have a lot of grass on thier campuses. It’s just a matter of piping it most of the time because they can’t just release the sewage untreated, so it’s there for the taking. But piping isn’t cheap if it is an urban area.

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        Well, they sure aren’t helping the ecosystem, but I wouldn’t say dead. I live near a golf course, lot’s of wildlife visiting it in the odd hours. And that is just the bigger stuff I can see.

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      12 hours ago

      There’s no point trying to be rational, whoever made this meme clearly has no idea about actual golf. Most golfers aren’t rich, most golf courses are pretty cheap. It’s just a way for people to drink and have fun with buddies.

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        Probably true. The courses I have played on were far from high end. And of the ones I know of around me, there is like 8 budget places for each “nicer” one. And I think there is only 2 super high end ones on my side of portland.

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    20 hours ago

    You forgot the lack of mass ecological destruction and toxic levels of fertilizer with the mini golf

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    No, don’t first date mini golf unless you want them to know how you look incredibly frustrated and on the verge of chucking a club at a fucking windmill.

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    16 hours ago

    The most minigolf i played was a flash game on nitrome, mallet mania yes, it was very basic but it has a certain something to that…

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      16 hours ago

      Tech bros and corpo sales drones trying to throw a “hip” pizza party where people can see them get out of their beemers and where they can pretend to have hobbies and souls by being “fun.”

      Or

      Cookie cutter, middle class grind culture mating grounds where people dress up to get drunk overpaying for booze while they fail to hit a golf ball and post about how zany they are on the gram’

      Or

      Said better than all the above

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        15 hours ago

        I worked at a Topgolf for a little over a year, and it is incredible how much some companies will spend on corporate events there

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      Feel free to form your own opinion, but I’ve only ever heard good things about Top Golf and it’s not a massive drain on resources or space like traditional golf courses are. But I also enjoy golfing at public golf courses from time to time. It’s fun to get out on the course with 3 of my buddies to whack a ball and have some beers outside. Never will consider a private membership or course though. Private golf courses can be burned to the ground for all I care.

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        But I also enjoy golfing at public golf courses from time to time.

        like saying “I also enjoy sticking the public with the bill for my hobby”

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          Sorry you hate golf. Public pools and libraries are also heavily subsidized by tax payer money. Parks for that matter are too. Sometimes it’s just a good thing to provide your citizens with something to do outside. I’m certainly not a rich white asshole that drives a BMW or Merc. I drive a 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe with 130k miles on it.

          I no longer live there but in the 4000 population town I grew up in, the only tax funded public entity that turned a profit for the city budget was the golf course. The public pool never showed profit in the 8 years I was a lifeguard there. The best it ever managed to do was about a $6k loss. The library lost money because of building maintenance and after school programs. And the parks district was the biggest drain on public funds due to recreational sports for kids and an outdoor theater production for local kids to act in. If anything, the golf course helped fund other local programs.

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            pools and parks don’t poison the water table with runoff from their greens.

            that must be one hell of a muni golf course; or, your memory could be hazy, or, someone in the municipal gov is hoovering up funds.

            I stick to my premise. The funds would have more impact elsewhere. And the damage done wouldn’t happen with other uses.

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            well then let me introduce you to the wonderful world of municipal courses - they charge a nominal fee that’s offset by taxpayer funds. there are two ENORMOUS ones here in Seattle. They each get millions of taxpayer dollars so they can waste water and runoff fertilizers into the water table.

            and invariably, the people I see (my local skatepark is across from one) are lilly fuckin white rich assholes. lot is full of BMWs and mercedes. So glad we can’t take care of kids, but we can make sure these assholes have a cheap place to play. fucking bullshit