Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective.
But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.
It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.
And sane people outnumber “reactionaries”/republicans. Your point?
You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.
All of that isn’t to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.
Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.
Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.
I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, “CA” would refer to Canada, as it’s literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.
And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.
That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I’ll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I’d not heard of 3166. Thanks).
I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.
I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.
I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US’s bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.
It’s not without merit either, as the “states rights” people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.
Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts
Oh I can assure you China, Iran, and Ukraine are done with USA’s bullshit. China started it by being the first to tell Trump no in his 2nd term by shutting off rare earth metals.
It’s not a la carte dicks of America. It’s United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.
This is why having normal human beings in the driver’s seat is important and not just entertainment.
Well it’s not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can’t individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.
Maybe being a bag of dicks to the rest of the world wasn’t such a great idea.
It’s not California being a dick. But the boycott is justified all the same.
Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective. But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.
It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.
Yeah all those winery owners are rich conservatives
Reactionaries in California outnumber reactionaries in Kentucky 10:1
And sane people outnumber “reactionaries”/republicans. Your point?
You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.
All of that isn’t to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.
Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.
That’s capitalism, baby. And I hate it too.
I’ve seen enough evidence to believe Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein have committed atrocities. Nevermind Kamala Harris.
“Atrocities”, really? Did you bring that evidence to share with the class?
For starters…
I think you need to go look up what an atrocity is.
Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.
You seem to be under the impression that I do not support Canadas boycott. I do. Re-read my comment.
I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, “CA” would refer to Canada, as it’s literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.
And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.
That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I’ll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I’d not heard of 3166. Thanks).
I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.
I mean for the rest of the world noone cares what individual states think and do. The president and his administration represent the American people.
California is flush with right wing reactionaries and techno-fascist shitheads.
Can’t really selectively target a nations dipshits so unfortunately you all get punished for not stopping it
I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.
This would cause so much chaos
USA has been doing just that for years. Look up FEOC.
That would mean the EU or various other unions around the world would have to expect the same treatment in return
Also most countries like the UN rules
I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US’s bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.
It’s not without merit either, as the “states rights” people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.
Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts
Oh I can assure you China, Iran, and Ukraine are done with USA’s bullshit. China started it by being the first to tell Trump no in his 2nd term by shutting off rare earth metals.
California, home to the most evil and powerful companies in the world. Lmao.
It’s not a la carte dicks of America. It’s United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.
This is why having normal human beings in the driver’s seat is important and not just entertainment.
Well it’s not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can’t individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.
Some of California votes consistently Republican. The whole state is not exempt.
38% of California, in the last election. Mostly in rural areas.
Like the wine growing areas eh?