• iByteABit@lemmy.ml
    217·
    2 days ago

    We won’t bomb a parade full of civilians celebrating the defeat of fascism and you should thank us for it

    • Pirtatogna@lemmy.world
      1211·
      2 days ago

      Nah, I think this is just showing middle finger to Putin. Reflecting a desire to show who really decides if there is to be a parade in Moscow.

      I mean a strike would probably be very unlikely anyway. The reason it’s been said out loud is far more interesting.

      Consensus among international human rights organizations seems to be that Ukrainian strikes on Russia have been limited in scope and while they have certainly caused civilian harm, Ukraine isn’t known to directly target Russian citizens. Russia on the other hand is systematically and directly targetting Ukrainian citizens and strikes on Ukraine have caused significantly higher civilian casualties.

      Also worth noting is that it is a military parade, albeit with civilians following it. Masking it as “a parade full of civilians celebrating the defeat of fascism” is dishonest. In reality it’s a pompous display of killing tools. I guess it needed to be said that this particular military parade will not be attacked.

      • iByteABit@lemmy.ml
        182·
        2 days ago

        It’s a military parade because fascism wasn’t won in the “marketplace of ideas” as liberals proclaim, but with tanks and guns. Why is it dishonest to say that the event is full of civilians celebrating this historical event? It’s one of the most relevant historical events to be celebrating because we will very soon need another one against today’s fascists that have taken over everything and everywhere.

        • Pirtatogna@lemmy.world
          13·
          17 hours ago

          It’s dishonest because that was not what was said. The wording was “parade full of civilians”. This is a military parade with most likely zero civilian participants, albeit there are civilians watching it.

          For reference, parade full of civilians:

          Not a parade full of civilians:

          Notice the difference?

      • Grapho@lemmy.ml
        165·
        2 days ago

        Consensus among international human rights organizations CIA and state department cutouts seems to be that Ukrainian strikes on Russia have been limited in scope and while they have certainly caused civilian harm, Ukraine isn’t known to directly target Russian citizens.

        Made it accurate. Kiev has long been targeting civilians, as evidenced by the drone strikes that targeted apartment buildings in Moscow as well as the many abuses in the Kherson counter offensive.

        • Pirtatogna@lemmy.world
          23·
          17 hours ago

          You did not “make it accurate”, you simply twisted my words based on your own imagination. Unless you’re willing to behave like an actual adult, I have nothing more to say to you.

  • JillyB@beehaw.org
    73·
    3 days ago

    This is kinda smart. Likely nothing was going to happen during the parade anyways. Russia would direct enough air defenses around Moscow to take down any drones Ukraine might send. This would mean that other targets would be slightly less defended than usual. Making this statement so late means the air defenses are already in Moscow and the clear skies is perceived as a gesture of goodwill by Ukraine.

  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
    512·
    2 days ago

    Hey! Hey, Putin!

    Hey, Putin and Trump!

    Hey, Putin, Trump and Netanyahu!

    Look! The leader of a country whose word you can actually trust about ceasefires!

    That’s called honour!

    Yes, you’ll have to Google it.

    Having said that, I’ll be surprised if there isn’t a false flag.

    • Grapho@lemmy.ml
      106·
      2 days ago

      Of course this ahistorical nonsense would be written in peak reddit-speak.

      What the fuck do you think sparked the reset in hostilities in 2022? Ukraine, just like every single US vassal, cannot be trusted to uphold a treaty (like Minsk II), let alone a ceasefire.

  • vagrancyand@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    427·
    3 days ago

    So I’m not a polymarket kinda entity but the easy bet is Zelenskyy reneges on this last minute and launches a drone attack.

    Everyone in that conflict constantly uses ceasefires and situations like this to gear up for ‘surprise’ attacks.