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      Isn’t it weird how they keep edging the anti-semites at home but then leaving them with blue balls and sending money to Israel

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          I don’t want anybody to rot in the terrorist state of Israel jail. If he should rot in jail it should be in the usa for pushing an supermasist ideology

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        Cause fuck Tucker Carlson.

        He’s an arrogant sleeve bag that sees no issue with spreading his lies in the disguise of news.

        He’s the face of Koch brother’s undermining of American media, and he gladly took their money so he can fuck over every other American just a little more.

        Unfortunately it looks like they let him go. Should have forgot about his sorry ass in a jail cell for a few decades.

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          He is a white supremacist but at least he is not responsible of at least ten thousands of death like Israel

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            In all honest, he might be responsible for way more, thanks to his lies about covid alone.

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              He supported the Iraq war and had a major audience back then. He also had his audience support the Russian genocide in Ukraine… I’m pretty sure you can hand tucker more deaths than Isreal, who tends to stay in their little bubble of death. Tucker is a real globe trotter. I’d say propagandists are equally responsible for the deaths. Just because they didn’t pull the trigger doesn’t mean they didn’t manufacture support for the act.

              There’s a message in there for you Hamas lovers. I still hold you responsible for the deaths of Palestinians for your constant dabbling with Iranian propaganda. If you’re fighting the propaganda war for Israel or Hamas especially here in the USA you are totally accomplice to the increased violence.

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              Israel is committing a genocide no matter how you frame it you still wrong to support anything Israel does. It gives direct orders to the idf to kill all type of people including infants

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    Carlson is fine and exited Israel. It’s totally normal to be detained and interrogated upon departure from Israel. I’m not saying it’s right or that Israel is cool. I’m saying this story is a nothing-burger and basically free press for Carlson’s upcoming interview with Huckabee.

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      I basically ignore all news that doesn’t have substantive outcomes and consequences, the news is just a massive speculation market driven by grifters, political scammers and online betting. If you read anything that seems to appeal to your feelings, that’s a huge red-flag that you’re being gamed. I wish everyone knew this.

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      It’s not a nothing-burger

      "Men who identified themselves as airport security took our passports, hauled our executive producer into a side room and then demanded to know what we spoke to Ambassador Huckabee about”

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        Carlson told the Daily Mail in a statement

        You forgot to include the next sentence.

        How much trust do you put in Tucker Carlson’s word?

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        This seems decidedly abnormal…I would have thought private discussions between a US citizen and the US ambassador - likely conducted on US soil (embassy) in Israel - would be confidential and he should tell them they have no right to the content of their discussions and frankly they can suck his nuts from the back.

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        that is not uncommon in airports in israel. especially for someone that was filming in israel.

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        If it’s how they operate, it’s normal for their country, by definition.

        They’re straight up saying it’s not good.

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          The story is not a nothing-burger. Just because Israel has normalized harassing journalists it does not get to be a “normal occurrence”. Also they stopped a conservative journalist for criticism of Israel it is certainly not a random event.

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            At this point y’all aren’t disagreeing about what happened or if it was good/bad, just about how terms like “normal” and “nothing burger” should be used.

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              We are disagreeing whether the story is noteworthy or something that should be considered “normal”.

              Words have meaning which is why these semantical discussions are important.

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      It’s totally normal to be detained and interrogated upon departure from Israel.

      I’m not so sure I agree with this.

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        I was there years ago for a conference. I didn’t do anything weird and still, just after the metal detector, officials took my passport and interviewed me. I wasn’t a very seasoned traveller at that point, so it felt a bit scary.

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            I’m not and i wouldn’t set a foot in that “country” unless the CIA or Mossad kidnapped me.

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        Israel has a “better safe than sorry” security mentality. Pro Israel and Pro Palestine people both will acknowledge their security is intense at the airport.

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    Oh man. Tell Aviv airport security is no joke. You will get questioned on the road to the airport and it’s all business.

    Too bad they didn’t tar and feather Fucker Carlson.

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      Yeah, but most VIP are escorted around the standard security. For this to happen they went in looking for something.

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    I’ve had so many people try to convince me that Israel is like a western country with similar amount of rights and freedom.

    Bahahahaha

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      Give it a bit of time…the assholes like Stephen Miller are trying to implement isreales fascism in the USA as quickly as they can

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        You know, when I wrote my comment I took a long moment trying to decide if I should exclude US from “western country”. We should come up with a new word for the common wealths and Europe

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      Which western country do you live in that you don’t need to hand over your passport and occasionally answer a few questions when going through customs?

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        You don’t need a passport in the Schengen area, so… quite a few countries.

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          So you want the US and Israel to enter into as close of a relationship as the EU countries have, or are you just being pedantic?

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        In most Western countries they ask for it, receive it, spend a second or two inspecting it and then (and this is the crucial bit that appears to be missing in the case of Israel and other police states) hand it back to you.

        Same goes for the questions when going through customs: a couple boilerplate “are you a terrorist whose mom packed your luggage with contraband produce and bottles of water” questions do not an interrogation make.

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          The US have been detaining people at the border for ages, holding them for hours and looking through their devices. One example was a security researcher, who was traveling to a conference to do a presentation on yet another spying thing that NSA did. After he was held and his devices rummaged through, he was denied entry.

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          Uh… they were handed back their passports, they did leave the country after all.

          Something you have to understand about Tucker is he says things in a way that’s technically true, but extremely exaggerated and leaves out details and lets his audience’s prejudices fill in the gaps. He was at the airport to leave the country sometime after doing an interview. Technically his passport was taken (by a customs official) after and interview (when he went to the airport).

          The headline leads you to think he did an interview and some Mossad agents took his passport and put him under some hot lights and interrogated him for hours. Why did they neglect to mention that someone at the airport took his passport as he was going through customs? Because you’d know the context and wouldn’t make assumptions based on your prejudices.

          These are the tactics anti-semites use to pull people into their bullshit. And you seem very willing to go along with it.

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            I can’t believe the ratio of your comment. Are people really taking Tucker Carlson’s word at face value and feeling sympathy for him? The Israeli government is a piece of shit and so is Carlson, and yet people are wanting to “take sides” here.

            Edit: oh I see you’re also taking sides, but it’s the “Israeli government” side.

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              The comment you replied to was making sense until the anti-semite dog whistle.

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              Carlson is a peace of trash but didn’t kill anybody inlike Israel comiting a genocide

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              I think Israel is a country of millions of people, some of those people are terrible, but many are good people. It’s disturbing to me that people can so easily think that millions of people are evil.

              It’s very fascistic to consider entire countries as “good” or “evil”. There’s many indications that post-Trump fascism will be anti-Semitic and very anti-Israel. How many people you see here in this thread do you suppose will jump on board an anti-Israel fascist movement? Will you jump on board?

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            Ah, so a Nazi country won’t mistreat a fellow Nazi. I guess that’s not surprising.

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              Maybe read a history book. Tip: the Nazis were the guys that hated the Jews. They also liked to accuse others of that which they were guilty of.

              History doesn’t repeat, but it sure as hell rhymes.

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        hand over your passport and occasionally answer a few questions

        Questions about one’s stay in the country are not the same questions this guy was facing. You’re reaching, here.

        And I get that it’s Mr Carlson, who is a bit of a dick, but if they’ll detain him, they’ll detain many others.

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          Do you know the questions they were asked? Talk about reaching.

          Why are you so ready to believe the word of an anti-semite?

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            Anti-Semite is going the way of terrorist

            Its so overplayed, oversold and abused in so many ways, so often, that its almost meaningless now. And is mostly just a clear, intentional and abusive manipulation tactic to protect perpetrators from some shit they did and should 1000% be held accountable for.

            Either you strait up hate Jews and that goes past anti Semite or it doesnt even apply to the conversation

            Your not wrong about tucker exaggerating shit but fuck you for this you this tactical manipulation as if were all too dumb to see that shit.

            Its such a bitch move

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              So you agree with Tucker’s stance on White Genocide ?

              Your man Tucker is an overt white supremacist anti-semite. And you’re going along with him.

              Talk about a bitch move.

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                Yeah this is what happens when you pay people to argue online

                Its not really supposed to make sense

                Its just supposed to sound like the bad people are winning if you don’t agree on reflex. They learned it from trump and tucker and every other asshole that gets away with it (advertising/marketing firms love that shit as well as they can imply you will be hated or distrusted if you don’t wear blank or like blank or support company/politician/group blank)

                So you hate America then. You said an american did something negative. So you hate americans is that right?

                That’s just not how honest people sound

                That’s how really desperate people sound when they are super worried other people are not agreeing with them and are seeing through their bullshit and are trying to convince anyone and everyone that your ‘the bad guy’ instead of facing their own shittiness 👍

                Hope it helps. These paid or volunteer clowns are cowardly and they hope you won’t notice it and discredit their talking points if they talk like this

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        wHiCh WeStErN cOuNtRy Do YoU lIvE iN tHaT yOu DoN’t NeEd To HaNd OvEr YoUr PaSsPoRt AnD oCcAsIoNaLlY aNsWeR a FeW qUeStIoNs WhEn GoInG tHrOuGh CuStOmS?

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            nope. its a common enough thing that it’s referenced on wikipedia:

            I was imitating you as a way of communicating how stupid you sound :D hope that helps.

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      I hate everyone here. It’s win-win, I think.

      Israel probably sees some connection to Iran and Russia, which to me has been obvious for a very long time.

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        I wonder if Tucker interviewed a prominent Israeli that disagrees with the government and this is their way of preventing it from being aired.

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          He interviewed an American politician and then because he is an absolute media whore and constant “victim”, he went to one of the least reputable, right wing, propaganda “news” organizations out there and told them about his “traumatic” interaction with airport security in a fascist police state.
          Oh no! The fascist police state did the fascist police state shit it always does!

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          The article said he is critical of Israel.

          This is the first time I’m hearing about it honestly. Does he call it a genocide?

          Why would he go there for an interview? Usually journalists go to cover what’s happening to the Palestinian people, otherwise you could just have a remote call. But then again, he is not a journalist.

          Something tells me he wanted to cause some friction.

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            He promotes the white replacement theory which is all about the Jews bringing in immigrants to replace the white race. aka White Genocide

            So he believes a genocide is being done by Jews. Pretty sure he doesn’t give a fuck about Palestinians tho.

            And yeah he wanted to cause friction, he’s an Anti-Semite.

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              That’s some old school hate he’s clinging to. His party moved on to Muslims then brown and trans since then.

              It’s the political version of gen X still saying things are sick and rad.

              Ps I’m trying to bring back rad.

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                It’s only been 4 months since Tucker was glazing Nick Fuentes in an interview.

                Or are you sticking up for Nick Fuentes too?

                How many overt anti-semites are you going to defend while pretending you’re “anti-zionist not anti-semitic”?

                There’s an old joke in Germany: What do you call 10 people having dinner with a Nazi? 11 Nazis.

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                  I’m not sure what you mean, but I think you misunderstood me. I meant the right wing meta dog whistle is illegal brown people, trans, maybe Haitians.

                  It was a joke, but I’m sure he’s prepping his people to hate Iranians

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            I can’t find an exact quote with the specific word genocide, but he has accused Bibi of committing war crimes. Also, an Israeli advocacy group named him "Antisemite of the Year” for his anti-Zionist stances.

            https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/tucker-carlson-named-antisemite-year-opposing-israels-genocide-gaza

            I saw he was recently interviewing Palestinian-Christian pastors around Israel and neighboring countries. Maybe he was still over there as part of that trip.

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              "Antisemite of the Year” for his anti-Zionist stances.

              And herein lies the problem.
              Well one of…

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              Also, an Israeli advocacy group named him “Antisemite of the Year”

              Imagine Tucker Carlson and Ms. Rachel being lumped together.

              /insert “We are not the same” meme

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            I’d wager that he’s just an opportunist and wants to make his “brand” friendly to neo Nazis while not alienating the “pro Israeli fascism” segment of the population that other media personalities cater to.

            He plays the foil to the right-wing “Israel can do no wrong” crowd but likely isn’t actually that critical of the Israeli government like someone to the left of Democrats would be.

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      You are ok with Israel killing the person on the right wing that exposed Israel’s involvement in Epstein, and the Kirk assassination?

      Not so good for further right wing defectors from the party that. Personally, I don’t support Israel killing American Citizens, even if I don’t like them. I also appreciate allies on an issue even if I don’t like them, or agree with them on everything.

      If we don’t cooperate on what we agree on, and stop listening to people telling us to reject allies that aren’t pure enough, told to us by the worst people in the world, then those worst people in the world continue to win.

      Israel is winning, because we condemn defectors that come out against Israel because they aren’t perfect.

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        You are ok with Israel killing the person on the right wing that exposed Israel’s involvement in Epstein, and the Kirk assassination?

        He did no such thing. He’s just an antisemitic blowhard who makes up and spreads conspiracy theories and white supremacist hate for a living.

        When the fascist apartheid regime he hates for all the wrong reasons turns out to be guilty of anything he’s accusing them of, that’s not him “exposing” anything, that’s him getting lucky.

        Not so good for further right wing defectors from the party

        He’s not that either. He may be outwardly “rebelling” on some topics, but he’s very much still a part of the fascist club.

        If we don’t cooperate on what we agree on, and stop listening to people telling us to reject allies that aren’t pure enough, told to us by the worst people in the world, then those worst people in the world continue to win

        Except that’s not at all what’s going on here.

        Tucker Carlson doesn’t oppose Israel because he recognizes that Palestinians are human beings. He opposes Israel because he doesn’t believe Jewish people are human beings and conflates them with Israel.

        You’re never going to stop a genocide by pointing out what a good ally someone is for being bigoted towards the people committing it.

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          Very convenient every person that goes against Israel on the left is labeled anti salmon, which, so are you by the way. The same people making that charge also charge you for it. Divide and conquer. It feels hopeless trying to talk sense to people manipulated by organized interests while we disparately are turned against our allies.

          As if we had already won you are riding around on your high horse about “stopping a genocide” spending your time attacking the only ones on the right that have stood against it, an act of bravery at great personal and reputational cost, as you chalk it up to malign motives, as if that should fucking matter right now.

          You know who has even worse motives? Israel. Their superfans and backers. The Evangelicals. I’m sure you will pull together enough support to stop Israel and their fascist designs, on america not just their own area, by working with the ones deemed pure enough. But you aren’t pure enough either by the same people that manipulated you into rejecting allies for lack of purity.

          Grow the fuck up and look past your fucking hand, both hands, including the one stroking yourself off furiously about your moral superiority. If we listen to you, we lose.

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            we disparately are turned against our allies.

            Tucker Carlson is your ally?

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            Very convenient every person that goes against Israel on the left is labeled anti salmon, which, so are you by the way

            Nope, it’s actually very INconvenient that Zionists conflate anti-zionism with antisemitism.

            That you would accuse me of doing the same thing in your defense of an ACTUAL antisemitic bigot who you claim to be my natural ally is absolutely laughable.

            As if we had already won you are riding around on your high horse about “stopping a genocide”

            Yeah, because FSM forbid that I focus on what the enemy is doing that I oppose rather than hyperfocusing on who opposes the enemy while ignoring almost everything these “allies” say, including their own stated reasons for their opposition 🙄

            spending your time attacking the only ones on the right that have stood against it, an act of bravery at great personal and reputational cost

            Could you please get the bigot-cock out of your mouth for just one second? It’s hard to hear you over the slurping noises.

            as you chalk it up to malign motives

            To quote Maya Angelou, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

            as if that should fucking matter right now.

            It very much does. It has never been easier to find prominent allies willing to speak up against Israel for the right reasons than it is right now.

            Aligning ourselves with the likes of Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Perjury Greene, and other bigots doesn’t get us anywhere closer to winning anything. It just gived Zionists an excellent opening for tarring us with the same brush.

            You know who has even worse motives? Israel. Their superfans and backers

            Nah, they’re about equal, as far as motives go.

            The Evangelicals

            Fun fact: that group very much includes Tucker Carlson, a fundamentalist Christian who claims with a straight face that he was attacked in his sleep by a literal demon.

            I’m sure you will pull together enough support to stop Israel and their fascist designs, on america not just their own area, by working with the ones deemed pure enough

            As far as purity tests go, “do you think that all Jewish people are secretly plotting against white Christians” is pretty damn entry level…

            But you aren’t pure enough either by the same people that manipulated you into rejecting allies for lack of purity.

            Nope. There you go again. I embrace anti-zionism while rejecting antisemitism and other bigotry. That REALLY shouldn’t be so hard to understand.

            Grow the fuck up and look past your fucking hand, both hands, including the one stroking yourself off furiously about your moral superiority.

            Wow, the projection is strong with this one 🤦

            If we listen to you, we lose

            Right back at you, buddy!

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        Tucker shifted when the wind changed; don’t give him more credit than he deserves. This is a guy that sells stories about demons and he’s never exposed a crime in his life.

        That said nobody is rooting for Israel here. So its unclear who you think needs to hear what you’re saying but its not anyone here.

        Tucker is a guy who selectively edited out kanye west saying some abominable shit in an attempt to gaslight viewers into thinking kanye wasn’t celebrating hitler. There’s a good chance he just straight up broke some laws and let a holocaust joke fly or something.

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          He called out Epstein as an Israeli honeypot, told his viewers they were blackmailing people to further their interests. Also I believe Kirk’s killing, Israel and their allies were involved, which is true also, he came out about that.

          So I wouldn’t be so quick to concentrate on his negatives but we are dumb as shit and without leaders so naturally we let organized interests lead us to spend our time criticizing the people that came out against our leaders for lack of purity, and not work with them against those leaders, that are winning.

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            Tucker Carlson is the rich boy heir to the Swans corporation and spends his time sucking Putin’s dick on Fox News. The entire Hydroxychloroquine scam originated on his show, he brought in a crypto scammer to push a fake study and then Trump parroted it to the nation causing not only a shortage of the drug for people with Lupus but countless studies and investments of public funding to stockpile something that proved to INCREASE FATALITY when used to treat covid.

            Going solely by the numbers, Tucker might have actually hurt or killed many more people than Epstein.

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      theres a master and a servant. Tucker is a member of the servant group (along with every other American) and will be treated accordingly. It doesnt matter so much if he’s left or right wing. The Israelis couldnt care less what political groups the livestock align themselves as-- why should they care? They bought both parties.

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    I liked the Breaking News about Kid Rock’s financial woes. Tucker and Kid can both eat poop, lousy racist bastards.

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    Back in my day detaining an American citizen on BS charges was a big deal. Now its a bit of a joke and our government does whatever israel wants anyway. Even though I dont wish Tucker Carlson well, clearly israel knows they can cuck us all on the world stage, while also running the Epstein operation, and we’ll do nothing beyond sending them more money and bombs-- and throw them red carpet heroes welcomes when they come visit.

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      Why do you think Trump would care about this ‘journalist’ any more than he did the other journalist, when the other party is giving him money and/or power?

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          Plenty of people Trump has thrown under the bus have said nice things before then. All he cares about is himself and money. The second anyone gets between him and money (or power, which leads to money), under they go.

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        That is a funny way to frame it yes they are antisemites and it is the only reason they support Palestine but saying they are antisemetix towards isrsel is bullshit

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        being against israel does not = being antisemtic, and your manipulatively suggesting it does is pretty low. Beyond all the genocide and murder and a long list of other crimes, Israel and its supporters are also hated for lying and manipulation like you just tried. Do you understand that?

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          is pretty low.

          Pretty standard nowadays.

          Do you understand that?

          Of course they do, it’s intentional.