“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.
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How is this not an act of war?
Installing violent juntas in South America is so 20th Century. Now we’re installing violent juntas in North America.
No one here wants this. It’s an incredibly small minority of morons and nothing will ever come of it. It’s just a bunch of noise because our premier is a piece of dog shit. She will be gone come next election, if she lasts until then.
Well, it seems that it is perfectly legal to abduct a country’s president with military force and then put them on trial.
Care to help us out Canada?I will take more than just Trump.
The fucking Russians are mixing with those morons too. Send the far-right Canadians fuck ups for a 6 month stay in the Oklahoma and Mississippi Oblasts. That should clear their fucked up ideas.
I guarantee Israel and the Zionist tech bros are involved
If Canada is smarter than America, they will deal with this decisively. It’s one think to be a big dickhead online, screaming for revolution. It’s a whole other thing to be meeting with representatives of a hostile government who has made many threats of invasion. That’s fucking treason, and Canada should deal with it right the fuck NOW, and send a clear message to future traitors. Don’t wait to see if it gets worse, like we do here in America, deal with it preemptively.
100% treason right there
What’s it going to take for Canada to start you know viewing this as treason from certain people? Cuz it’s absolutely treason.
Yup, needs to be shut down and them charged, and then you’ll see a US temper tantrum, which just proves what they were up to.
I live in the treasonous province and I’ll tell you most people in Edmonton at least are real Canadians and not fascists.
The fairly luke-warm ‘stay’ petition, rabid ‘leave’ petitions, and generally failing recall attempts, seem to paint a slightly more muddled picture.
At least BC’s premier is openly using the Treason word for this shit.
I wouldn’t call that “Luke warm” at all. It was a massive amount of people in a relatively short window of time.
Any petition aimed at retaining the status quo will have a lukewarm response.
If Canada takes a page out of America’s book then there could be an actual violent insurrection and masked federal agents executing Canadians and they still won’t view it as treason.
Would there be a way for Minnesota to leave the US and join Canada?
“I’m joining the war against Canada on the side of Canada.”
Plenty of Americans would.
Maybe there can be some kind of NFL style trade.
All y’all thought there was going to be a US Civil War, but it turns out the first shots are getting fired across the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.
Never going to happen. Just some stupid people that avoid facts and only watch conspiracy videos.
In the spirit of Ralph Klein, I think we out to buy these folks one way tickets to the American state of their preference. Let ICE sort them out.Although the show is pissing me off its clear that Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky, Jason Anderson, Chris Taylor, Mark O’Green, Scott Bennie and Christopher Taylor from Fallout 1 definitely did get somethings right ie the US trying to invade Canada.
Standard US playbook. Find lackeys who want to destabilise and split a country and fund their coup.
Although the show is pissing me off
Aw crap, I’m starting ep 1 this weekend, how does it go off the rails?
Not op, but I’m a huge fallout nerd. I love it, some of the story decisions are weird and retcons happen, but overall it captures the world beautifully and is hilarious IMO.
Latin America: I’ve seen this one before.
I’d say California should hold a referendum to join Canada in response, but then I discovered California’s economy alone has 4.3 trillion GDP compared to all of Canada’s 2.6 trillion. Amazing that the average Canadian still has better access to healthcare 😅
I bet that if California had universal healthcare, the GDP would skyrocket. Healthy people are productive people. Ditto for doing free education, genuine anti-corruption, and…(goes on)
What? If the country looks after the population, the population will look after the country? That would never work! You know, except for the various countries where it provably does work…
that’s communism according to the federal gov expect ICE soon
As a German I would prefer California in the EU. I’d be ok to send EU money to Denmark, so they can buy California.
Image West Coast Weather AND hygge in one single state.
Well you might get Canada in the EU soon.
Unfortunately won’t happen but it’d be great to have a Norway-style European integration for Canada: no official EU status but practically behaving as it was
That would be great.
Oooh, update. Just found the other post https://lemmy.world/post/42340747
California is THE fourth largest economy in the world with the first being the USA as a whole.
What place is USA without California?
And without the entire west coast (assuming without Alaska), because the three states basically move as one.
Why the fuck does this administration think they can just buy countries?? Like where tf is all this coming from?
An asshole who was taught his whole life that he can buy whatever he wants and do whatever he wants without consequence was shat into office.
It’s just a continuation
and thus far, the world is still yet to prove otherwise
Because not a single world leader is stepping up to do anything about it. Although they don’t intend to buy anything, that’s the excuse to the pretense to war. “We tried to acquire them peacefully but there was no reasoning with them. Acquiring Canada was for national security”
If the Canadian government or EU actually cared, the Canadian border would look like the Korean DMZ. But instead the UK sends one troop to Greenland.
So tit-for-tat being fair play, sounds like Canada can kidnap and imprison Trump.
Thank you, I just daydreamed this for a moment. That was nice.
Me too. Wouldn’t it be funny if we kidnapped him an no one really tried to get him back?
And no-one COULD find 'em? Or “whoops we put him on a rocket aimed at the sun”? And then mysteriously all their cronies vanished?
OK the come down from this isn’t gonna be good but I’m enjoying the moment.
Only with 12 aircraft carriers though.
Next: “separatists” in green vests without insigna rebel against the Canadian government. Fuck this shit
What a fucking menace. Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country? They are making themselfes the common, lifelong enemy of many, many groups of people.
Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country?
Like Venezuela?
They did that, but still don’t actually control the country. Mostly because they’re fucking morons.
The CIA usually holds their own competence in higher regard than reality does. All because Hollywood, and Tankies, think the CIA is magical or some shit.
They’re more like a small child with a machine gun, especially under Trump. You have to question how they got it, and how many people will get hurt, and you can be fairly sure nothing constructive will come out of it.
When I was a kid the CIA (and FBI for that matter) seemed like some magical force that was impossible to go against. Now I’m an adult I see the CIA as a massively expensive meddling influence that will do long-term massive damage to a country often for short-term gains. They truly are one of the biggest terrorist organisations on the planet.
The short term gains are also questionable. But hey, the cruelty is the point, otherwise they wouldn’t work with the moonies to fund right-wing death squads.
Which is the real scary part. See, the CIA as a governmental agency, is subject to at least some oversight. See the Church Commission, the Rockefeller Commission, and half dozen others where funding for the CIA has been cut or shifted to other agencies that sometimes actually care about the people in various countries, and not what the John Birch Soceity wants.
But the CIA has a very close relationship with non-governmental groups, often based in other countries, that do care what the John Birch Society wants.
Most of that progress has been undone by Trump, but for a time, the CIA was more focused on, well, their version of professionalism. After the Soviet Union fell, the anti-communist nonsense fell out of favor. The 90s were them scrambling to figure out what the fuck was going on, and then after 2001 it was pure anti-muslim, and they mostly ignored a lot of the areas they had been fucking around in before in order to focus on fucking up Iraq and Afghanistan.
They get blamed for every coup and popular revolution, when according to wikileaks and the much better DDoSecrets (and the more than $7 Million spent on repeated Benghazi hearings), they’re constantly getting caught with their pants down.
Like the U.S.?
And Palestine? And Ukraine?
to be fair, the us is sending their criminals and drugs, these are acts of war against the sovereign nation of hoth, and for that a police action to bring their leader to trial must be underaken.
We’ve done it before (violating sovereignty). Kind of a lot. Oh man…I hate this list. Looking at it all (AI generated) at once is a big oof. Several are joint operations.
Year(s) – Aggressor – Victim – Colloquial name / shorthand
- 1846–1848 – United States – Mexico – Mexican–American War
- 1893 / 1898 – United States – Kingdom of Hawaii – Overthrow & Annexation of Hawaii
- 1899–1902 – United States – Philippines – Philippine–American War
- 1903 – United States – Colombia / Panama – Panama Secession (Canal Coup)
- 1912–1933 – United States – Nicaragua – U.S. Occupation of Nicaragua
- 1915–1934 – United States – Haiti – U.S. Occupation of Haiti
- 1916–1924 – United States – Dominican Republic – U.S. Occupation of DR
- 1953 – United States (CIA) – Iran – Operation Ajax
- 1954 – United States (CIA) – Guatemala – Guatemalan Coup
- 1958 – United States – Lebanon – Lebanon Crisis
- 1960–1965 – United States (CIA) – Congo – Lumumba Assassination / Congo Crisis
- 1961 – United States – Cuba – Bay of Pigs Invasion
- 1964 – United States – Brazil – Brazilian Military Coup
- 1965 – United States – Dominican Republic – Operation Power Pack
- 1969–1973 – United States – Cambodia – Secret Bombing of Cambodia
- 1960s–1970s – United States – Laos – Secret War in Laos
- 1970–1973 – United States (CIA) – Chile – Chilean Coup
- 1976 – United States – Argentina – Dirty War / Junta Support
- 1979–1989 – United States – Afghanistan – Operation Cyclone
- 1980s – United States – Nicaragua – Contra War
- 1983 – United States – Grenada – Invasion of Grenada
- 1989 – United States – Panama – Operation Just Cause
- 2001–2021 – United States – Afghanistan – War in Afghanistan
- 2003 – United States – Iraq – Iraq War
- 2011 – United States / NATO – Libya – Libyan Intervention
- 2011–present – United States – Syria – Syrian Civil War (U.S. Intervention)
Where is Honduras?
West of the Caribbean, between Guatemala and Nicaragua. But that’s not important right now.
Yes, they (MAGA) do think they can do that. Their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy are boundless. The U.S. is going rogue, we are in the run up to WWIII, and I am not being hyperbolic. The rest (non-MAGA) aren’t paying attention, can’t see what they don’t want to believe, or, like me, are horrified, terrified, and making plans to get out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.
On the positive side, the U.S. is strongly teeing up financial collapse, which will likely hit towards the end of this year (maybe mid to late October?) Look at what gold is doing. It’s the biggest gold bull market of all time, already eclipsing the 1981 peak that came from the stagflation era following Nixon’s removal of the gold standard, and that’s even adjusted for inflation. The U.S. is running a ~6% budget deficit, consumer confidence is crashing, a leading indicator of a recession, ~1/3 of the U.S.’ $38 trillion in debt comes due and will have to be rolled over in a higher interest rate environment and at a time where the world is divesting of U.S. debt, and Trump gets to appoint a lackey as Chair of the Fed in May. You can 100% bet on the fact that the Fed is going to have to buy treasuries (i.e., print money) to cover the debt, which will devalue the currency boost inflation, and destroy the dollar. The Fed will also juice rates. We’ll have a boom in stocks with a blow-off top that will make the 1929 crash look quaint. There will be massive business failures, bank runs, and complete chaos, with a good chance of civil war (we’re already in a “cold” civil war, somewhat analogous to The Troubles.) Accordingly, I don’t see the conquest of Canada as likely before the situation collapses in on itself. However, if MAGA emerges from the chaos with its grip on power intact, god help us all (and I’m an atheist.)
It is too early to separate MAGA from USA. That will happen when MAGA is defeated and banned.
I draw a parallel between Nazis and Germany and MAGA and the USA. For the world, Germany was Nazi, just as for the rest of us, the USA is MAGA now. The USA is harming the world and when it stops (when MAGA is just another dark page in US history), we (the rest of the world) will stop equating MAGA and the USA.
Unfortunately, the US military is too strong and no one can bomb the USA, that will never happen. Therefore, the people of the USA must defeat MAGA. They brought it to power, they will have to defeat it and never let it arise again.
If this does not happen for some time, the USA eventualy will cease to exist as a superpower but at the cost of millions of victims.
Never happen? Look up 9/11 2001. You don’t need trillions in spending to do damage. Temu terrorism was very effective.
Given the divisions in Canada like Quebec, western alienation and Alberta being conservative central, yeah, they might be able to.
Quebec can talk all it wants but in the end I don’t believe they will chance separation right now, especially with the wolves at the back door (Maine - New Brunswick border crossing).
They are an attack vector for US desire to divide to conquer Canada. Their separatism culture is a vulnerability for the nation, as is its multicultural mosaic that is only as strong as the connection between groups and those are not really that strong.
https://thewalrus.ca/few-quebecers-support-sovereignty-and-even-fewer-want-a-referendum/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/most-quebecers-againt-holding-sovereignty-referendum-poll/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/most-quebecers-againt-holding-sovereignty-referendum-poll/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/poll-most-quebecers-oppose-independence/
Were you born last week?
It’s sometimes difficult for us to be patient and kind with others, I know the feeling.
Reflecting on what we said to a person, and how it might have been received, can help us gain a better understanding of how to interact with them to get the outcomes we want, whilst remaining positive, empathetic, and keeping toxic behaviour at bay.
Username checks out, lol. Thanks for the reminder.
