California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office said the governor was denied entry into a venue at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 21, after being invited to speak at the event due to “pressure” from the Trump administration.

Newsom had been scheduled to speak with Fortune at the USA House, Davos, a privately organized event, at the World Economic Forum, which has been recognized by the U.S. government as the nation’s headquarters in Davos.

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      Do you think newsom would steal children from parents, shoot mothers, molest children and call for war and tariffs?

      Do you think newsom would let a prick like Steve miller pull his Hitler act?

      These two people are not the same.

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      I would one thousand percent prefer Newsom over Trump and I almost guarantee Newsom wouldn’t send his brownshirts into red states to shoot mothers.

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        I mean a lot of us have been voting blue no matter who for our entire adult lives and things keep ratcheting right into Nazi land

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          I’ve been voting that way too. I question it often but haven’t changed my mind yet.

          I might have an issue with “vote blue no matter who” were it not for the fact that the morons around us are voting by the tens of millions FOR Nazi land!

          They had the opportunity to vote for the center-right corporate-friendly administration that will probably not get much progressive stuff done because they have the same billionaire donors.

          But no, they voted for the idiotic criminal self-labeled dictator THREE TIMES! They cared more about who could get hurt (LGBT, minority, female, “other”) than whether we could actually improve society.

          The DNC shares a ton of blame too. I don’t mean to leave them out of it. I hope that some young progressive voices can drag the party to the left. It would be great to not be forced into a two party system in the first place of course, but I worry that the only way such a change will happen any time soon is that a lot of people die and then the survivors write new rules.

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            The democrats just voted to give ICE more money. They always do this and then we ratchet right into Nazi land… I’m getting pretty old and this always happens. I’ve watched it my entire life the democrats don’t ever do anything to stop the evil. They enable it every time

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              Exactly. Americans need to do something else because there isn’t any voting their way out of this. Keep voting democrat, but know that it wont actually fix anything. It’s not meant to.

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                The point isn’t to keep voting for democrats because they will save us.

                The point, given we are forced into a two party system, is more about trying to take over the party most of the time while also voting against the outright nazis in general elections.

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                  Understand that you will not be able to take over that party by voting alone. At least acknowledge that. Because the way you talk about it makes me think that the US is absolutely a lost cause when this is how their “leftists” speak.

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        Newsome is going to enable the tech billionaires and Israel so basically we will keep marching in lockstep with project 2025 with funny tweets. He has been fighting the one time 5% billionaire tax proposal in California and he vetoes everything that upsets shareholder profit in California.

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          He broke the marriage equality impasse. Without him I might not be married.

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            He protects LG rights and maybe BQ, but he has consistently vetoed T rights. I’m straight AF so this doesn’t affect me directly, but it affects my friends, so I care that he doesn’t.

            To be clear, I voted for Newsome, because the Democratic party didn’t give me a choice. I’d primary him if I could.

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        He just kneeled and licked the boots of fascist Ben Shapiro, the gap is much smaller than you’d think

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          Yeah talking with a shitty media personality is basically the same as deploying brownshirts and the actual military to American cities

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            If you can’t see how regularly platforming and legitimizing right wing ghouls to your predominantly liberal audience creates the permission structure that allows for the deploying of various breed of thugs to American cities, I don’t know what to tell you.

            Gavin Newsom is a dangerous man, and should be treated as such.

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              Apparently Newsom and Kamala Harris are currently polling the best to become the Democratic nominee in 2028. If you think Newsom is evil then okay, but I think he would be less evil than MAGA. Some people might hope for someone like AOC to be the nominee, but she seems to be polling worse.

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                After looking at the linked chart, next I wanna know how each of the Dem primary contenders polls against hypothetical Republican candidates for the 2028 general.

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                If you DON’t think Newsom is evil then I do not trust you and see you as an enemy to actual positive change.

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                  I don’t know a lot about him and his positions. He seems more sensible than MAGA, but I guess that’s not difficult.

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              Gavin Newsome is among the last people I’d like to see become president. And yet I’m not convinced just because he spoke with Ben Shapiro he’d support what’s going on now. If we care about the actual facts he’s been outspoken against the use of ICE and the military in American cities and has sued the federal government several times over this.

              So if we go back to the original point, no Newsome would not have done what Trump has done.

              There’s a long list of better leaders that also wouldn’t have done what Trump has done, but the bar has been set in hell so here we are

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                I want to be very clear, he’s talked to way more conservatives than just Been Shapiro.

                He’s agreed with them on their transphobic talking points. He proudly talks about violently breaking up homeless encampments.

                Newsom is already does a lot of what Trump does. He just does it in a way that’s more appealing to white liberals.

                Would he be as overt or crass about it? Obviously not, but that’s not the point. This kind of fascistic scapegoating of the untermenschen vulnerable people, and using the violent arms of the state to deal with them, is unacceptable no matter who’s doing it.

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                  Oh yeah don’t disagree with any of that, but like I said the bar is in hell.

                  To the original point he wouldn’t be utilizing ICE and the military the way Trump is.

                  As for the homeless Newsome would support criminalization, but not murder.

                  For Trans individuals he would support a loss of rights but not criminalization or murder.

                  I can’t say the same for Trump. With him its a ticking clock on when the death camps fire up, and they likely already have under ICE.

                  I guess my problem is saying they are exactly the same when one is very clearly worse. I’d much rather have neither, and truthfully I don’t think Newsome will win a primary (although the DNC is corrupt) and I agree an actual leftist canidate has a much better chance of winning the presidency (assuming elections happen). I don’t think the powers that be will go for that, but here we are in hell

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                    You keep saying he’d support criminalization and loss of rights for certain people, but not murder.

                    Except those things result in deaths, regardless, and thus represent Social Murder.

                    The fact is that these people who Newsom consider undesirable, are succumbing to hunger, exposure, forced relocation, suicide, loss of healthcare access, or denial of access to public spaces and services, all through the action and deliberate inaction, of the state, through policy he supports.

                    This is what I mean when I say he supports a lot of the same things Trump does, just in a way that is acceptable to liberals.

                    Instead of armed men going door to door, these people simply die, quietly, and out of sight. Their deaths, and the policy which led to them, are rendered no less unjust by their aesthetic qualities.

                    By shrugging and saying “well the bar is in hell!”, we also shrug off the responsibility to combat this shit in whatever form it takes

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            Brownshirts were civilians not law enforcement. Law enforcement acting such is like the SS, and SA, not the brownshirts.

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              Sure there’s likely not a direct comparison, but the party has rapidly enabled its own selected force to brutalize a large section of the population with impunity.

              Ao draw the analogy you want, it’s bad though. Couldn’t be much worse

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                The SS or SA is not a bad direct comparison. Brownshirts were the nazi version, the Italians did so first with their blackshirts. Civilian groups, street brawlers, that would target left wing groups, leaders, burn down their businesses, beat them up, shit like that.

                The brownshirts would stir up shit to force new elections all the time and the nazis kept getting more and more votes each election, supported by big business because they were anti socialist. The SS and SA were like the official goons although not law enforcement before hitler’s chancellorship obviously.

                Everyone hated the brownshirts, including those rich that supported the nazis, so after they had control, and consolidated power with the SS and SA able to handle security, they killed all the brown shirt leadership in the night of the long knives, partly out of paranoia but partly to appease the rich that preferred the organized official violence to the dumbass street brawlers.

                That said, Ice is like the SS, or SA, I’m trying to remember but the SA was mostly folded into the SS after they consolidated power but for a while they were parallel law enforcement type organizations controlled by hitler. Except Germany was broke, the USA just gave Ice more money than any militaries in the world get other than yours truly and China.

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            Calling Ben Shapiro a shitty media personality is dangerous. He’s one of the men with the most reach and media influence in this administration. Don’t doubt the power of gobbels

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              Ben became irrelevant years ago, and had certainly been replaced. Not every dipshit republican media personality is gobbels

              I believe his rhetoric was definitely part of the movement that led us here, but he wasn’t the main driver

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            According to a bunch of supposed lefties, you don’t vote at all, and then bitch on twitter that nobody picks correct rulers, and the west is falling

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              That is according to the democratic establishment that sells those points to the weak minded to shift the blame from their unpopular candidates running status quo campaigns losing.

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                Well, some of them are here now, but you’d be surprised how many of the permanently online American “left” is addicted to that hellhole. They’re addicted to angry arguing, and twitter being ruled by mekahitler is an ideal platform for it.
                But it actually doesn’t really matter which social media they bitch on this days.

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                  I see what you mean. My thought was more that if one’s still on twitter at this point without taking any steps to offramp oneself, they are taking a reactionary stance that is upholding Musks monopoly on online communications.

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            Socialists. And if there aren’t any on the ballot, then spend some time to actually organize your community so that next time there are.

            If the election comes and there isn’t anyone on the ballot you want to vote for, you have wasted your political power.

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        Yet without popular reform, which he is constitutionally opposed to, they can’t win. Your lesser of two assholes arguments has no answer to the fact that these status quo democrats cannot reliably win. Now with republicans cheating in so many ways, that’s especially true.

        He had his chance in 2024 and he declined to stand up and take the election.