Some 1,500 active duty Army paratroopers have been put on alert for a potential deployment to Minnesota, according to two defense officials.

They’re ones who are trained and equipped for arctic warfare. This is kind of thing you do when planning to massacre civilians.

Edit: The Washington Post is now saying the same thing:

Pentagon readies 1,500 soldiers to possibly deploy to Minnesota, officials say

Soldiers with the Army’s 11th Airborne Division in Alaska have been placed at the ready following Trump’s Insurrection Act threat, according to defense officials.

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      Could be; both are utterly illegal and any soldier who follows an order to attack either deserves to be prosecuted

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        Prosecuted? Maybe. Summary execution, definitely. They aren’t soldiers. Soldiers took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Anyone attacking civilians and protestors is just a regular old fashioned mass murderer.

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        I don’t think it’s so black and white. A lot of those soldiers are barely surviving and their money feeds their kids. Enlisted don’t have the luxury of disobeying orders blindly, that law is applicable to the officers issuing them.

        Having said that, as a vet, I would do malicious incompetence and sabotage our mission in “incompetent” ways as much as possible. Also, I would never open fire on innocent civilians no matter what.

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          I don’t think it’s so black and white.

          Legal Eagle did a video about this. Ultimately an American soldier is liable for carrying out illegal orders. Refusing illegal orders is extremely complicated, but carrying them out is still illegal and they are subject to the law. It doesn’t matter if they were “just following orders”.

          https://youtu.be/wkaS3-9WvM8

          Edit: spelling

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          Sorry but levying war against the United States is the one crime laid out in the Constitution. Don’t Do It.

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            Yeah, I was quite drunk last night. You’re 100% right that in this context, soldiers would have the ability to disobey these types of unlawful orders under the UCMJ.

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              They know full well they’re going to Minnesota to kill a bunch of people for…blowing whistles.

              Right move in that situation is ro refuse.

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                You’re ignoring the nuance, which is a weapon of Maga, so be better. The orders don’t say kill them. It says “go and maintain order”. Politics aside, they think they are the good guys. Many of them don’t have a clue that they’re being used as puppets to escalate the fascist takeover.

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                  Sure, there is what is explicit, but they have access to the same news I do, and know what this is about. The US military isn’t operating in an information vacuum like the Soviet army in Budapest during the cold war who thought they were there to fight Americans

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                    Every us military base has fox news on with the volume up in every common area.

                    That’s the default information source for people in uniform.

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                    They can’t ignore orders that aren’t illegal. They have to walk right up to the line and THEN refuse to cross it when shit goes sideways. But by then the tension will be high enough for an incident… That’s all Maga cares about. They don’t need to send kill orders to get what they want.

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                I don’t think they do know that. How many brainwashed people have you met yourself? Have you listened to any Fox News coverage - what would someone who trusts that outlet believe?

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                  I have met a lot of both active duty and retired service members. Not a single one of them would follow such an order.

                  Have you ever met a United States service member?

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                    You didn’t reply properly.

                    An order to “kill anyone blowing a whistle” or an order to “kill any domestic terrorists who approach suspiciously”?

                    And sure, but I don’t think our collective anecdotes are useful here.

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      At this point I think it is distraction. Notice that if he actually intends on doing something he just does it (giving Russia edge over Ukraine, Venezuela etc).

      If that’s not his choice, but wants to distract media (hello Epstein) he just talks about it (for example aid to Ukraine, help to Iranians).

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      Donnie at it again

      Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness - Sun Tzu

      Art of the deal strikes again folks!