CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — At least seven explosions and low-flying aircraft were heard around 2 a.m. local time Saturday in Venezuela’s capital, Caracas. The government accused the United States of attacking civilian and military installations in multiple states.

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Venezuela’s government, in the statement, called on its supporters to take to the streets.

“People to the streets!” the statement said. “The Bolivarian Government calls on all social and political forces in the country to activate mobilization plans and repudiate this imperialist attack.”

The statement added that President Nicolás Maduro had “ordered all national defense plans to be implemented” and declared “a state of external disturbance.” That state of emergency gives him the power to suspend people’s rights and expand the role of the armed forces.

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    So basically, every signatory to the Rome Statute could use these measures to arrest war criminals and genociders…if they wanted?

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    Please remove the cheeto from office. He did not win either popular vote. He is wreaking havoc because no one holds him accountable.

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      He did not win either popular vote.

      He did get elected, whether you like him or not.
      Why is he still in office is beyond me, maybe a magic lead encasing could solve that since he seems to be above the law.

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        Popular vote isn’t electoral college vote.He did win the 2024 popular vote by 1.5%.

        Eta: there has been evidence offered the last vote was rigged.

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        Here’s what Katie Miller is posting on Twitter.

        They love war. They know the economy sucks and the president is unpopular - they are the type of people who believe the myth of the Nazi economy being good because of its war machine. They also want wars as an excuse to delay elections, at no point have they been subtle about this.

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          I remember a few tweets floating around of the base cheering Trump as antiwar. Specifically around the 4 6 32 wars he “stopped”. But if you go further back to his past presidency you get the pro war sentiment again. So really just pick a date and it could go either way.

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            MAGA and Republicans will repeat whatever propaganda the Orange Leader commands like good little boot-licking sheep. Logic and principles play no role in their words and actions. And don’t tell them they’re in a cult!

            Wouldn’t it be a miracle if enough Republicans grew a pair of gonads to stand up to the Grifter in Chief over this or any of his other evil actions (like releasing the full and unredacted Epstein files)?

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              That would literally be miraculous, authoritarian followers have very strong tendencies to compartmentalise their beliefs, ignore leader hypocrisy, and justify violence against outgroups.

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      If the kidnapping story is true, I’m guessing she’s the next legitimate president of Venezuela^tm

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    The USA pretends to be a democracy, but in fact it is a criminal, pirate state, they steal what they want, kill whom they want. Fortunately, Trump’s coming to power marked the beginning of the collapse of that anti-human state. Americans of all political persuasions will continue to shout “thank you for your service” to every military person responsible for killing civilians and invading land belonging to others just for the opportunity to make money. Fuck USA.

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    Which US company is benefiting from the illegal attack? Conoco-Phillips? I recall they were US company drilling and exploring in Venezuela.

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        I mean, they already gave one to the person who is going to give Trump all Venezuela’s oil.

        It does seem to be a prize given by the oil industry at this point, and has been for decades.

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    NONE OF THIS SHIT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF KAMALA HAD WON.

    INACTION TO FASCISM IS COMPLACENCY TO FASCISM

    Edit: Seeing all of these bitches coping and seething acting like Kamala would’ve gone on a global blitzkrieg.

    You people are fucking pathetic. Your refusal to live in reality is the real reason the left never succeeds. Your lack of action puts Venezuelan blood on your hands too.

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      Palestine would still be in the state it is now, other that that, you’re probably right.
      Maybe Mamdani will run for POTUS some day although it’s too early to cheer for the guy.

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        Unfortunately Mamdani wasn’t born in the USA. He’s an immigrant, and that makes him legally not allowed to be president.

        That said, there’s many progressives similar to or even better than Mamdani out there, and all they need is the same energy behind them that Mamdani had.

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      I would like to start out by saying I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same. For example, the FTC as it was during Biden would never have happened under a republican administration.

      What makes you think that bombing Venezuela wouldn’t have happened under Harris? I can only think of three explanations: because she is a woman, because she is a democrat, or because Kamala Harris specifically is against foreign intervention.

      I would like to take this moment to reiterate that I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same.

      The first explanation sounds weirdly sexist to me, so I won’t spend too much time on it. We don’t have a female US president to compare with, but look at the voting record in congress and the senate on the use of force in the invasion of Iraq back in 2002. When you control for party affiliation, women were actually more likely than men to vote in favor of the invasion.

      I would like to take this moment to reiterate that I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same.

      Maybe because she’s a democrat then? Let’s look at some recent democratic presidents, and see how they fared on foreign interventions.

      Obama: 40 billion in military aid to Israel, expanded drone campaigns in Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. Surge of 30k troops to Afghanistan. Continued use of black sites and torture camps like Gitmo. Explicit legal protection for the torturers.

      Biden: 18B in military aid to Israel as it was committing a genocide. Air strikes on Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan.

      I would like to take this moment to reiterate that I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same.

      Maybe Harris is an especially anti foreign intervention person then. From her DNC speech I quote: “I will ensure America has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.” What do you reckon she wanted that fighting force for? A tea party?

      I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump. It would’ve mattered a great deal for women’s rights, lgbt rights, and to some small extent even a bit for worker’s rights. But to pretend the electorate has any meaningful choice when it comes to US imperialism, is, I think, not realistic.

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        Your reply is a colossal waste of time to cope and seeth.

        1. Kamala, nor Biden, ever made any indications that regime change in Venezuela was on their radar. Biden had 4 years to execute such a thing, but his focus was never on Venezuela. We have no evidence whatsoever that Kamala’s would be either.
        2. Understand that regime change in Venezuela was a part of project 2025. Trump’s policy from the Heritage Foundation,a Trump ally. It was always specifically on his roadmap, not Kamala’s.
        3. Trump attempted regime change in Venezuela in his first term and failed. Much of this due to the safe guards of competent military leadership there to push back against his illegal orders. Under Biden, this leadership wasn’t purged for yes men. There’s no reason to believe Kamala would’ve done it either. Trump, however, immediately started purging military leadership in his 2nd term, specifically so he could have yes men in place who’d agree to this.
        4. The constitution, although battered, wasn’t set on fire under Biden like it has been under Trump, and there’s zero indication that it would have been under Kamala. Neither Biden nor Kamala ever indicated they would ever take power to eliminate all safe guards and watch dogs, send the National Guard to invade US cities to terrorize dissonance, nor give their own private Gestapo (ICE) a budget to dwarf the Marines.
        5. Not Biden nor Kamala certainly indicated they’d declare all opposition domestic terrorists (NSPM-7) with the explicit goal of finding legal means to kidnap and kill dissonant voices. Especially on the eve of the most unpopular was in US history.

        You try so hard to cope and fail so miserably.

        It doesn’t matter if you spam fuck you’d prefer Kamala over Trump. What your spreading is objectively, pro-Trump propaganda and outright lies.

        This “both sides” bullshit doesn’t just only benefit the fascists, its also blatantly untrue for anyone who actually researches the topic.

        Was Kamala an angel? FUCK NO!

        Are the Dems virtuous and pro-proletariat? FUCK NO!

        Are we and the rest of the world worse off under Trump than Kamala? OBJECTIVELY FUCK YES!

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          I don’t know man, I see a pattern of every single democratic president since Eisenhower, no exceptions, enthusiastically committing war crimes, and you’re trying to tell me “no, not this one, this one is different”. Sounds like one of us is maybe a little bit in denial.

          Also, implying that it’s a waste of time to look at the past actions of democrats to try and get a feel for what they will do in the future is such a self report.

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            Idk man, I think you’re reading what you want to read and not what I said, and instead are coping hard to justify surrender to fascists in 2024.

            There is zero evidence whatsoever that Venezuela, let alone the absolute rapid-fire destruction of the US constitution and rule of law to get us here would have happened under Kamala. Especially since it didn’t happen under Biden. Venezuela was only ever really discussed by the fascists and invading it and taking over was in Project 2025

            I think you’re coping with an extreme reach in this situation. You’re pointing to the actions of past Dems to claim Kamala might have very specifically attacked Venezuela unprovoked.

            Insane cope. Just accept the left foolishly surrendered to fascists because they became too blinded for their hate of neo-liberals to see they were cutting their own balls off.

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              So to convince me that candidate A would not do xyz, you keep harping on about candidate B and how they would do xyz. Do you understand why that’s not a very convincing argument? We all know about project 2025, we all know about republicans. We’re looking at it. That doesn’t make democrats any better (on imperial foreign interventionist policies).

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                You clearly don’t read.

                You and your camp make the dumb ass claim that Kamala would have likely done the same thing with Venezuela, when I say this wouldn’t have happened under Kamala.

                I’ve provided my reasoning for why. You lot absolutely refuse to provide any reasoning or evidence to your side that does t rely on circumstances that don’t directly relate to the situation.

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      I wish America finally got a woman as president. Broader female representation in government and leadership lead to better outcomes globally, would make the world a better place.

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        Two words: “Margaret Thatcher”

        The idea that a woman president is bound to be better just because of being a female is ridiculous.

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        Im actually not sure a woman would do better. You would need a person of integrity and honor to be a really good president, and a woman who makes it to president is not going to have that either. The system doesnt let them get there.

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          Im actually not sure a woman would do better.

          They could hardly do much worse. Sure it may not usher in a utopia but the bar is currently several feet below floor level and still dropping.

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            A fucking rock would be better.

            Or just leaving the post unoccupied.

            A good woman would be better, but so would a good man. It’s the “good” (person) part that guarantees it would better, not the gender.

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          That sounds like a non sequitur.

          I am Italian and we got a fascist as first female premier, so I really could have agreed with you, but sorry you missed the point.

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        While I wholeheartly agree with OP and believe Harris would have taken a different course than the self proclaimed zionist Biden and would’ve given voices like Mamdani, Omar, Sanders and AOC much more weight and I’m convinced that women have a much better potential to fundamentally change the world for good (there are micro loan programs only catered to women because they are so much more trustworthy), it’s still a women named Marina Corina Machado who cheers for this and wants to sell out Venezuela to the US. And other women who I deeply trusted to do the right thing fail miserably all the sudden:

        https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:5ba3zjugf4kis434frdolgr3/post/3mbjb57n5uc2y

        My favorite poster on Mastodon regarding the “Both Sides Bad” discussion always has excellent takes on topic of non- and protest-voting.

        https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/115830646002048908

        Multiple people in his vicinity including me tried to convince US citizens on Mastodon to vote for Harris to no avail. Some of them didn’t even know about the Heritage Foundation and their plans and if they knew they said it wasn’t in line with Trumps agenda.

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          Yeah, it’s really hard to talk up our candidate’s anti-war bonafides after throwing anti-war protesters out of our convention and having her hit the campaign trail with the Cheneys

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        Really glad then that the guy we got instead increased their funding, bombed Iran and took out a world leader just for oil. Clearly a much better situation than the latter would have been.

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          USA does not like rules and democracy anyway, the USA and Israel even reject the jurisdiction of the international crime court. Neither country is among the 125 signatories of the Rome Statute, which established the ICC in 1998. Afghanistan signed it in 2003 and the state of Palestine in 2014.
          Because why would anyone sign something that will hold themselves accountable? Why not just keep the wild west theme so we can do what we want, blackmail who we want, use big companies how we want because we are the most powerful country for now so yeah… the wild wild west

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      Let me repeat my question from another post:

      The 2025 nobel peace prize was awarded to a woman who demanded that war.

      Trump doesn’t have a direct influence on Norway.

      Harris kept prisoners in prison to use them as firefighters.

      How do you argue that Harris would have never given the order to attack?

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        If Kamala Harris launched a midnight attack on Venezuela she would have been impeached by afternoon.

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        As a European, I don’t understand it: You had the chance to vote against Trump but chose not to - whether out of misguided belief that he’d be better for Gaza, that Harris and Trump are the same, or any other of your “questions”.

        Let me be blunt: if you didn’t use your vote to prevent Trump from becoming president, you’re complicit. You can’t weasel out this responsibility for the failure. The rest of the world will struggle to take you seriously - or trust you - after this."

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          OP argued that Harris wouldn’t have attacked. I doubted that. I haven’t argued that Trump was a good choice.

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        Harris would have had a full Republican Congress trying to impeach her for anything she did. Checks and balances. Trump has unitary executive theory and power of a king. Next question?

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          It’s a country with more guns than people, what’s taking so long?

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            They spent the last 30 years brainwashing the crazies wit guns, that’s who controls the government. Next question!

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          You are right about the proof so it’s all hypothetical.

          Like with Cuba, the Democrats have maintained the pressure on Venezuela. Obama killed Gaddafi for his African currency. Democrats must have been involved in the recent changes in Peru, Bolivia and Equador. The USA seem to clean up South America before they have to take care of China.

          Harris was willing to do the necessary to have forced firefighters. So if she would be president she would have continued this necessary project.

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            Like with Cuba, the Democrats have maintained the pressure on Venezuela.

            Nope, Biden cut sanctions on Venezuela and Cuba.

            Obama killed Gaddafi for his African currency.

            Gaddafi was killed by his own people for being a dictator.

            Democrats must have been involved in the recent changes in Peru, Bolivia and Equador.

            Peru did have elections and some issues, but nothing which could be called a regime change. Similar story for Ecuador. Bolivia had a failed coup, but that is not a regime change.

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              . In October 2023, the administration of Joe Biden temporarily lifted some U.S. sanctions on the oil, gas and gold industries in exchange for the promise of the release of political prisoners and free 2024 elections.[3][4] Most of the sanctions were reimposed in April when the U.S. State Department said the Barbados Agreement to hold free elections had not been fully honored

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions_during_the_Venezuelan_crisis

              Gaddafi was killed by his own people for being a dictator.

              Technically correct but there is the Hillary quote.

              Democrats are no saints. I asked for a reason why Harris wouldn’t order the attack. Evading that question like this suggests that she would have given the order.

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                Once again, you cannot prove a negative. No one is evading your question, your question is just irrelevant because of fucks that didn’t vote for her because Gaza. We will never know what she would have done, and what she would have done does not matter now, because of protest voters and Trumpers (which are effectively the same thing in this case, and both are complicit in everything that has happened in the past year). If Kamala were elected, and she did this, I’d be just as fucking upset. But we will never know that she would order this kidnapping.

                I’m not stupid, and I would argue that no one here is saying democrats are “saints”. I’m not sure where you’re getting that idea.

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                  If we can’t say what she would have done then the entire discussion doesn’t matter.

                  NONE OF THIS SHIT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF KAMALA HAD WON.

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            They aren’t even coherent points, that’s why people aren’t addressing them directly. They’re half baked, partial thoughts that are only somewhat related to the situation.

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            Well first why don’t you make an actual argument than throwing up a vague list of unrelated “points”

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              Because they are not unrelated but show that the attack is not a personal Trump project.

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                The 2025 nobel peace prize was awarded to a woman who demanded that war.

                Trump doesn’t have a direct influence on Norway.

                Harris kept prisoners in prison to use them as firefighters.

                How do you argue that Harris would have never given the order to attack?

                Which one of these even remotely suggests that?

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        You sound a lot like the Soviet Union after Chernobyl exploded and the first thing they did was publicly speculating how bad the reactors in other countries are.

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          I am not comparing Harris to Trump. My argument is something else.

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        It’s a subtle difference only a political scholar could truly understand so I get your confusion.

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          I haven’t received an answer so far to be confused about. Please don’t hold back. Please explain with all subtlety why Harris wouldn’t have ordered the attack.

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            The Republican Party has been obsessed with Venezuela and Iran for decades. It’s about oil. Kamala Harris was not about to commit political suicide over a 40 year old beef between Exxon and Venezuela. If it was on their priority list they would have done it. I’m sure she would have bombed someone but not specifically Venezuela.

            They’ve been wanting to do this for longer than you’ve been alive. Trump was the only president unhinged enough, and unconfined enough to do it.

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            He just told you? What about reading the god damn answers: “SHE WOULD BE IMPEACHED!” Harris would probably sanction Venezuela.

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              Do you think that is a serious argument?

              Venezuela has been sanctioned. That’s where their poverty came from.

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      https://youtu.be/8S0aD6QLTxQ

      There really is nothing nice about USA
      You go to the hospital you gotta pay
      The dollar is the language that they all speak
      They don’t really bother about the radiation leak

      Fuck the USA

      They keep their secrets undercover
      The rich don’t bother about those that suffer
      This ain’t the land of milk and honey
      Cause all they want is money money money

      Fuck the USA

      Nuclear bombs are fuck all new
      You’d better start running when they drop on you
      Run into a shelter, play hide and seek
      Cause when you die your body reeks

      Fuck the USA

      There really is nothing nice about USA
      You go to the hospital you gotta pay
      The dollar is the language that they all speak
      They don’t really bother about the radiation leak

      Fuck the USA

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    It’s an american led coup.

    Not even the first in south America but absolutely the most blatant.

    Edit: “Negotiated exit” could mean a few things but it probably means they had him and his family and said ‘come with us or we go to our alternative orders’

    To be clear Maduro is an ass but what the USA has done is internationally intolerable and is the kidnapping of a foreign head of state.

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      a foreign head of state.

      Considering the elections are disputed they can claim he’s not an elected leader.

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      To be clear Maduro is an ass

      But then so is Trump. Each one is an asscheek, they go together.

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        So china, russia, North Korea and Iran should attack USA to remove your current government? And then they should insert someone in their favor instead? Is this how the world should be controlled? Kill everyone we don’t like for the sake of it, and then see if the lottery turns in our favor each time we make a regime change. So far the changes has been a success in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Right?

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          to remove your current government?

          They only kidnapped a couple of people, the rest of the government is still there.

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        Drug lord vs pedophile hard to say if I want either to live or be happy.

        Can we take neither and have it not fuck over the people tho?

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          Can you show me the evidence of Maduro being a druglord? You know this is all bullshit made up by Trump and the murderers who want their oil.

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            He’s still a ruthless dictator that refused the peaceful transfer of power in defiance of rule of law. Funny that this applies to both Maduro and Trump. This in no way makes excuses for the US’s actions here, but let’s not pretend Maduro was a good guy.

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              According to who? The CIA who helps conduct the attacks and the opposition led by Machado who also supported Trump’s campaign and supports Israeli genocide? Were you alive in the run up to the Iraq war? Look at any war the US had led in the last century. The state creates whatever narrative they want to justify their actions, Trump has stated openly that this is about their oil.

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    This is it, if the western world and the US congress does not respond appropriately this shows Trump he can do whatever he wants. Greenland will be next, nothing will happen either. This is what the Nazis did as well, fuck around and see what happens. And nothing happened for quite a bit until it was nearly to late.

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      Trump has apparently been consistently ‘asking’ Sheinbaum (sp?) to let him take out all the cartels in Mexico.

      So uh, Mexican American War, Round 2, very much looks to be on the table.

      Somewhat ironically, Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex called that one, part of at least one version of half of Section 9’s member’s backstories is that they were mercs fighting in that war.

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        I don’t think the Trump administration cares too much about the western world. They just told everyone: “Either you do as we say, or we will fucking take it.”