Never worry about commie crap like public citations getting in the way of misinformation rhetoric again! (Because the LLM trained on fuckin twitter made it up lmao)
On the flipside for an actually cool non-cucked integration of LLMs with wikipedia check out this post on the localllama where the person shares their project of using a local private llm to search through a local kiwix server instance of wikipedia. https://piefed.social/post/1333130
That dipshit really doesn’t have any understanding of what the word grok actually means.
Tbf, I never thought it meant anything
Somebody (Robert Heinlein) made it up in a book (Stranger in a Strange Land).
It means to understand something at a fundamental level
Close. It means to understand a thing or person so completely that you and it/they become one.
If you have to create a wikipedia alternative to stop being fact checked, then maybe you are just fuckin wrong.
Billionaires: “No, No… I can’t be wrong. I’m Rich! I’ll create a microcosm of information that warps reality to make sure I’m right!”
Conservapedia: Wait…thats what I was for… what about me?!
that’s hilarious because wikipedia leans nowhere near left
Reality has a well known liberal bias
Ah yes, the reality of the genocide in Gaza has a liberal bias. That sounds accurate…
I do wonder sometimes if the better soundbite is “bullshit has a conservative bias”
According to liberals.
true,they lean neutral.
They lean centre right
It just lists facts. You go on there and try putting on a political opinion that isn’t actually facts based you’ll be shut down within seconds.
it lists facts based on sources that might be biased.
the guy is right in that quite a bunch of sources lean center-right.
I’ve often said that liberals treat Wikipedia as Holy Scripture, and your comment is exactly that: an assertion that a particular work provides direct access to revelatory Truth. That anything it states is inherently “fact”.
Every holy book is “just a list of facts” to its believers.
Well it says the earth is a sphere so I guess I get where you’re coming from. The problem is you haven’t actually provided any evidence to your claim that it’s some kind of evil liberal bias.
I’ll bet Grokipedia states the earth is a sphere too. Does it also “just list facts”?
I also don’t see you providing any evidence for your claim that Wikipedia “just lists facts”.
The evidence for it is Wikipedia itself. If you have a concrete example of it siting something demonstrably wrong, bring it up, we can examine it here and if you are right, even fix it.
So you’re doing the classic thing of putting the burden of responsibility for your ridiculous claim on to somebody else to disprove. A classic sign of somebody not arguing in good faith.
How can I prove that Wikipedia only lists facts since any evidence that I present, you will immediately disregard as untrue because of your preconceived bias.
I want you to link to any article, on any subject matter on Wikipedia (in English so we can actually read it, I know that trick) that proves your claim of bias. I genuinely don’t believe you will be able to because if you could provide this evidence, you would have linked to it in your original comment.
Your holy scripture arguement doesn’t work because Wikipedia isn’t a fixed source of stated reality, it’s a constantly changing constantly updated website. We know the Bible isn’t objective reality because we’ve had it for a very long time and have been able to test it against known historical accounts, and they don’t match up. Wikipedia on the other hand is updated millions of times a day. Even if an article had some bias, by the end of the first day that bias would have been corrected by someone who didn’t like the bias. But you’re stating that there is a deep rooted institutional bias. I’d like you to indicate it please.
So did he just clone wikipedia?
No, the articles are reliably allucinated by Grok… with a sprinkle of editing for making sure the echo chamber is air tight
It would be so funny if someone hacks the site and only changes that, and nobody notices for weeks…
What’s with his obession with the name “grok” though? Sounds like the sound frog made
trying to be an edgy almost teenager.
I always assumed Grok was chosen to hint as his technology background. For which “grok” is a popular term used for reading and understanding, with code in particular.
It’s a Heinlein - “stranger in a strange land” concept. It sort of spread out in nerdery from there where it meant you know and you’re in the know.
To know is to understand fully sort of. He’s doing the literal opposite which is a bit 1984 of him and is also likely another book he’s read and didn’t understand or at least had pretended to have read.
It’s from a book I love, Robert Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land. The word is the Martian term for fully understanding something.
That’s really funny. He steals the name Tesla and Grok and when he tries to come up with his own names, we get “X” and “X Æ A-Xii”
those are also names of his SONS, whom he doesnt really care about, just to name them, and he has a breeder fetish.
All the tech fascists steal words. Palantir is from Lord of the Rings.
Which infuriates me as a LotR fan.
and also makes me side eye Chris Tolkien hard, cause he is normally very aggressive in protecting the intellectual property…
Palantirs were prominently used by Sauron to corrupt and manipulate weaker-willed users, so I have to admit it’s a really apropos use of the name.
And Apple is a fruit smh
A biblical reference to the fruit of the tree of knowledge and how man took a bite of the fruit (but not acknowledging that it was woman who took the first bite)
What an obscure reach to make.
It’s been part of deep nerd culture for decades, but not really pop culture.
I do not sense a wrongness in your post so I will not disappear you. :)
Share water, brother!
Your thirst is mine, my water is yours! … Oh shit, wrong sci-fi world I think my bad
I believe it is from the book stranger in a strange land. Its meaning is like to deeeeply understand, I think.
Not deeply but completely and absolutely.
Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science and it means as little to us as color does to a blind man.
That’s fucking hilarious for an LLM.
grok = caveman?
You got the original explanation, but grok was taken up by computer nerds way back in the day. It’s not merely understanding a thing, in the book or the slang. To grok means to completely wrap your head around the subject, not merely surface level understanding, really feel it down deep.
As to Musk’s obsession? He wants to be seen as the cool kid, the smart hacker, the guy who groks what’s really going on.
Honestly it’s a great name for a search engine or AI. And now he’s actively ruining it like everything else he touches.
BTW, Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent book. I laugh when people call Heinlein a fascist for writing Starship Troopers. “So, how about that hippie book?” Heinlein’s books examine various government and economic systems, “What if it worked this way?”
Media literacy is at an all time low, especially among terminally online “activists”.
Doesn’t anyone remember groklaw? I feel like sometimes only I remember the early Internet anymore…
I fully expect the SCO case to be resurrected at some point in this timeline. Then they’ll know.
Funny you say that. In Serbia, they say the noise a pig makes is “grok”. My wife burst out laughing when she found out the name of Elon’s AI.
Imagine some Saudi prince launches an AI called Oink, and then sets up Oinkepedia
Rather ironic given that wikipedia makes a massive portion of LLM training corpus
Not to mention most Grokipedia pages are straight copied from Wikipedia!
Didn’t there used to be conservapedia that was just Wikipedia but edited to match their imagined reality?
… I really hoped that this wasn’t a thing, but im not surprised in the least.
Its just fucking painful, man.
Tge thing with conservapedia is Poe’s law makes it impossible to moderate. A conservative (heh) estimate is that 70% of that site is trolling.
i remember i randomly found this while i was on a searxng instance.
That site is bugfuck nuts, and not just because I disagree with most conservative positions. Bug. Fuck. Nuts.
Prior criminal convictions matter to you, eh, Elon? You know Trump has 34 of them, right?
Funny how the “voting irregularities” magically disappeared when he won.
and not mentioning that elon himself, said he was going to get charged for interfering with the election if Harris won.
A thief doesn’t loudly announce that they just stole something.
“Yeah, I mean who even does that, right?” nervously side eyes Garrett from the Thief Series with his occasional cool ass one-liners
They forgot the quotes on “fact checked” and maybe a wink emoji at the end of that sentence
It was fact-checked to remove all actual facts from it.
So why didn’t Conservapedia take off? If it’s unbiased truth, no liberal agenda, it should have blown Wikipedia out of the water a decade ago. Funny that.
Conservapedia was comically stupid. Like, there was a lengthy diatribe against the Theory of Relativity that seemed largely based off Andrew Schlafly confusing the Physics term “relativity” with “moral relativity” and being against the latter. This was especially weird because Schlafly personally had a background in applied physics and so ought to know that GPS satellites serve as a proof of some of Relativity.
As embarrassing as basically every page of Conservapedia was, at least it represented some stupid man’s beliefs and effort. Grokipedia can’t even do that.
“We have compiled the largest website full of absolute bullshit and stupidity to compete against the largest compendium of real human knowledge.”
“Elon invented the airplane.”
Elon is one thing, but the Grok developers have recently done a surprisingly good job at making it neutral and unbiased in matters of opinion, but also allowing it to tell people they’re wrong in matters of fact, which is why there’s so many screenshots around of conspiracy theorists getting shut down by it.
I can’t say whether this will be the same, but if the devs take “without bias” to actually mean “without bias,” rather than what Elon intends it to mean, it could actually be somewhat useful to filter out obvious promotional content and any small levels of bias.
It instead is 100% to repeat what Elon wants you to believe
