Oh I remember that, lol. It was a bunch of people giving long, well thought out explanations of their position to you, and you responding by ignoring them and insulting them.

And I’ll still always, forever, view you lot as Nazi tier genocide apologists. Because you are.

while making the genocide they “cared” about worse.

No, it was just as bad under Biden, you people were just genocide deniers when it was your team doing it. In that sense, Trump has been better for Gaza, because at least now western liberals aren’t engaging in as much genocide denial.

Source: it came to me in a dream.

A year ago I would have said Concentration Camps, but we both have those now.

Jesus Christ. American liberals are champions at historical revisionism.

Don’t worry, the people complaining about “tankies” are so tribalist that you can make the dumbest laziest takes imaginable, and the ‘tankie’ can give the most well thought out, nuanced and rational comment imaginable, and they’ll all still agree with you anyway.

Because the idea that North Korea has a serious propaganda output to the West compared to the West itself is obviously absurd.

Source for it being the biggest exporter?

No. They don’t. They don’t actually get a pass either; that’s just a strawman that bluemaga libs have about .ml because they think it’s a flex to never actually read anything the people they hate say.

You’re country is balls deep in a modern holocaust.

Iraq, Libya, Palestine, Syria, half of Africa, half of South America, etc. And yes, overthrowing a government to install a puppet counts as territorial expansion.

You think America was the only country that invaded Iraq? Learn some history.

Because I am not defending the authoritarianism in China.

Yes, you literally are. You are claiming that an accusation made by the West against China isn’t true; that is what you have consistently treated as “defending the authoritarianism in China”, so why should you be judged by a different standard. You are a tankie, by the same criteria you use on others.

It is a dictatorship as much as Russia is

Anyone can make assertions, but you have no way to actually back this claim up. It’s simply not true.

USA is speedrunning towards

Funny how you can never actually say that a Western country is as bad as it’s enemies; it’s always “moving towards it”. Meanwhile the actual people of China are vastly more happy with the state of their democracy than the US is.

Tianmen Square happened,

Yes - 40 fucking years ago. Do you have any idea how much heinous shit the West has done? Do you have any idea how many orders of magnitude worse then shit the West has done since then? Multiple entire countries have been destroyed. The West is collectively carrying out a modern Holocaust on a population of two million people, right now, and you act like it’s self evidently true that something that happened four decades is more horrendous. Maybe take a moment to consider why you have to reach back so far for your “China bad” example, because you sure as fuck wouldn’t have to for the West.

people got massacred by Chinese military specifically by tanks.

Can you imagine what Western security forces would do if rioters started stringing up police by nooses and burning them alive? An entire line of tanks stopped for one man in China. In the West they would have rolled right over him.

And this sentence alone could very well get me banned on .ml

No, it couldn’t. At worst it might get the comment removed for misinformation (technically there’s no evidence that tanks specifically killed anyone), but it would not even get you a temp ban.

oh im sorry about my use of the word unfortunate. english is not my first language so my vocabulary is not as expansive as yours.

Understandable.

well, i dont have to wait long to know for sure. will update you soon.

???

why not ask the indigenous groups that they are wiping out.

???

This is bordering on Gaza genocide trivialization, mate. This is pretty vile.

oh im sorry about my use of the word unfortunate. english is not my first language so my vocabulary is not as expansive as yours.

dude, i will not engage with your brainrot.

And that’s what it comes down to in the end right? "I won’t engage with your ideas because they’re innately wrong, and I have declared them wrong without engaging with them.

i don’t support the fucking IDF, go bash your head against some other wall.

Point to where I said you did?

I never said that i don’t question what i heard, stop imagining things.

Point to where I said you did. Sounds like you need to stop imagining things.

What i’ve heard makes a lot of sense tho

“It makes sense”? What kind of standard is that?

I ask again, can you name one claim the west has leveled against China you don’t believe?

like the chinese bothering Uyghurs even in europe and threatening their families in china to keep them silent.

Remember how I said you cannot claim to hate western authoritarians if you also unquestioningly accept everything they say about their enemies?

there is just too much evidence for behaviour like that from multiple sides.

How did you determine this?

not everything about china is bad (there is good in nearly every country), and they’ve done a lot to improve the average life there, but they mess too much with their citizens for my liking.

Careful, this is enough to get you branded as a red fascist authoritarian tankie. I know from first hand experience, as this is basically my position on China.

and if you start defending the DPRK here, i’ll laugh your ass outta here.

Well this is just a straight up admition that you’re position is unfalsifiable doctrine.

This poor excuse for a country is a private kingdom for a corrupt family with underfed and brainwashed victims as citizens. I will not lose a word more about this blemish on the surface of our planet.

Reread this to yourself and then consider if you saw this kind of language coming from the other side whether you would think it sounds like it’s coming from someone who is themselves “brainwashed”. Also insanely chauvinistic to write off a an entire country as “a blemish on the surface of our planet”; that is legitimately fascist rhetoric - like straight up Nazi shit.

Regarding immigration into Europe: it’s a shame, but you can’t help everyone if it costs you everything

So suddenly authoritarianism is fine with you. it’s just “a shame”. Guess what; every authoritarian uses this reasoning, you just have a massive double standard.

if the borders are opened completely, it would destroy exactly the thing the immigrants want to have - a stable society.

Again, you are not anti-authoritarian then. “Oh but it’s nessaccery that we use unilateral lethal force to deny these people access to the commons, even after we unilaterally used lethal force to destroy the places they were living, because it allows us - not them - a stable society.”

That’s just authoritarianism.

isn’t it better there if i take you by your word?

How about you go live in Gaza or Iraq or Somalia? If you’re going to endorse what you’re governments did to them, maybe you should stand by your word and actually practice what you preach. “Oh it’s shame that we have to drown them in the Adriatic, but it’s necessary so I can have a stable society.”

your imagined utopia

Where have I said this? stop imagining things.

if you want to have a society like the chinese have

I’m working on it, Remainder is hard and they’re not particularly welcoming to migrants, but I’m working it.

you don’t have to spread it where noone wants it.

This from the person who endorsed Europe’s actions? Nobody has tried harder to spread their ideology where noone wants it that western liberals

And the fucking point is that i don’t get banned if i say something that doesn’t fit in db0’s worldview

Yeah, you do, far more so than you will on .ml. db0 perma banned me from the entire instance for saying something that doesnt’ fit with his world view on a different instance. Recently I said something else he didn’t like on a different instance, so he perma banned me again even though I already was, just because he was pissed.

not like dessalines and other mods on .ml

Literally the opposite; to get a perma ban on .ml you basically have to be persistently and obviously abusive and have already gotten multiple temp bans. Seriously, actually check the mod logs.

I mean, if you really can’t tell, then yeah, I guess I do know you better.

have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us

That’s just as absurd. Be serious; if China were to exterminate your entire country, would you say that that’s no worse than what they currently do? Because that’s what the west does and is doing.

or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza?

Yes, less people dying is not as bad as more important dying, that should go without saying. If the Filipino government has killed a single person, does that make it as bad as the Holocaust?

because to me, both are unfortunate.

And one is vastly more “unfortunate”. (I would say horrific and monstrous, but sure “unfortunate”).

thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil.

Then I cannot count the Filipines as a lesser evil to the Nazis; if proportionality means nothing and all evils are equal, then you are as evil as the Nazis.

just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US.

If you believe of the far worse atrocities of the US do not make it worse than China, then yes, you are pro US, because you have a double standard that favours them.

Westerners really don’t care what Ukrainians think, do they?

what do you mean by your question?

I’m wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse than the West because they harrass fishing boats in a minor naval territory dispute and not realise how absurd that is.

when we experience their abuses firsthand

Do you think nobody experiences the abuses of the West first hand? Do you think other people aren’t real?

people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?

You probably should have heard any news from the West in the last few decades? “Oh yeah, exterminating two million people in Gaza isnt great, but China runs online scamming sites!”