• Donald Trump has imposed a 17 per cent tariff on tomatoes imported from Mexico, raising concerns about increased prices for consumers and businesses.
  • The tariffs took effect after the US withdrew from the nearly three-decade-old Tomato Suspension Agreement, with the Secretary of Commerce stating American farmers had been ‘crushed by unfair trade practices’. The Commerce Department calculated the 17 per cent import tax to measure the percentage by which Mexican tomatoes were allegedly sold at unfair prices in the US.
  • The measure is expected to result in higher costs at supermarkets and restaurants, with one Californian restaurant owner predicting bankruptcy within three months.
  • Mexico, which supplies about 70 per cent of US tomatoes, has refuted claims of dumping, insisting the popularity of their produce is due to its quality, and stated that substitution would be impossible.
  • hark@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    That 17% tariff will magically turn into 200% price increases thanks to algorithmic price fixing.

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    For those that don’t know for fresh market tomatoes.

    Indeterminate tomato vines can be grown for years if they don’t freeze.

    Mexico has invested heavily in greenhouses, high tunnels and thrip-proof net-houses. These allow for year round production of tomatoes. This was done with government money.

    Canada has also invested heavily in greenhouses to grow tomatoes and produce them year round. This was also done with government money.

    Meanwhile the U.S. focused on open field machine harvested sauce tomatoes controlled by massive corporations. There are still some U.S. tomato growers that rely almost 100% on immigrant labor. In general they produce 1/10th the tonnage per acre at higher cost even with the cheap labor.

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    Trump probably hasn’t eaten a vegetable his whole life. Now if it was an increase on a KFC bucket of chicken, this would not happen.

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    I’m so glad I accidentally over planted tomato seeds now. I’ll have to give some extras to our neighbors, we really only have a little patio to put stuff on or the apartment flips out.

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      My neighbors have some really good-looking Roma tomatoes out front. They’ve had a good crop this summer. I’ll bet they taste a lot better than the ones from the grocery store, too.

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      You can have hydroponic cherry tomatoes indoors in 90 days.

      The initial setup needs lights and aquarium air pump some rock wool tomato seeds and a couple of 5 gallon buckets and a little hydroponic fertilizer.

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    Buy local, folks. I got far higher quality tomatoes at a farm stand the other day than I can find at any big box store in the US. The prices can’t be beat.

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      Buy local, and buy seasonal. That’s just as important, because if you’re shopping for avocados in Milwaukee in November, those fuckers have traveled a long way and was picked a long time ago. You might not live in a climate that has oranges or strawberries year round. Accept this and choose food that doesn’t have a swollen climate footprint.

      Also eat free-range billionaires. Eating one billionaire would do more good for the climate than every other change you and 300 of your friends could make.

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        Not eating anything except local produce might get you winter scurvy in some places.

        But you have a good sensible point about the billionaires.

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          One word: cabbage.

          Two words: yummy cabbage.

          Many words: I actually agree with you in general, I just love cabbage which, on top of many other benefits, is SUPER high in vitamin C and excellently suited for climates where not much grows in winter🙂

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            I approve of cabbage but I’m not delighted with most of the recipes I’ve used. Got something really different? And please, my body can’t tolerate much capsaicin so don’t lean into heavy 🌶️. Other spicy spices are fine.

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          There are plenty of sources of vitamin c that are available in the winter. Broccoli, kale, and Brussels sprouts are all available in colder climates well into fall and winter. Sailors would get scurvy from eating fish and cured meat and drinking only ale and water for months at a time. Malnourished children get scurvy because of neglect. It’s not that hard for adults with access to fresh food and sufficient economic freedom to get enough vitamins.

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            I’m lucky enough to live in SoCal, I have tomatoes and blueberries and lemons and miner’s lettuce in pots on my balcony year-round. And I make lovely strawberry jam, but I’m well aware that the boiling necessary for preservation destroys most of the Vitamin C.

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        Learning to eat what’s seasonal is a great way to understand world cuisines better. It’s advantageous when traveling…

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        They’re family-run operations, proudly owned by generations of Latinos, in many local cases. You’re talking full-on internment camps if they’re to forcibly remove these legal citizens from their businesses. I’m not saying that isn’t in the works but these aren’t only field workers vulnerable to being terrorized. There’s a vast co-op network they pull resources from. If trump is going to truly go after all production, food will cease to be available. We will see economic destruction that will make the Great Depression pale in comparison.

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        Pretty much every major city in the US. I’ve been to farmer’s markets in multiple red cities and multiple blue cities.

        Though, in some cities, they’re only open half the year because of weather conditions in the other half.

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        Depends on the region. I can find about 5 on Victoria Avenue in Riverside, California alone. Farm stands are everywhere under our noses in this state and we can wind up overlooking these amenities.

        In LA, back in the day, I would have been going to farmer’s markets more, which are a bit more work because they have limited schedules. Still, there are brilliant places like Super King there, that have a lot of value for the money. I also miss other specialties there like sushi-grade fish mongers, etc. There are quite a lot of options in Southern California and beyond such as Latino supermarket chains like Vallartas, Cardena’s and Northgate/Gonzalez Bros as well as Asian options like 99 Ranch Market.

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    The real reason for all of this is he wants to disenfranchise the poor and destitute to the point where they have no choice but join the army to get food and healthcare.

    They are force feeding the machine.

    You know why they need that? Because a BIG WAR is coming.

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      they haven’t figured out what the big war will be but they’re working as hard as their fat ceo asses will let them

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    My local grocery store sells tomatoes starting at $3.99/lb.

    A pack of seeds was $1.50 and my plants are 2-4’ tall and loaded.

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      Which is great and all if you have room to grow them—and aren’t a complete brown thumb. But a lot of people live in high-rise apartments without so much as a balcony.

      And before someone recommends container growing indoors—assuming the apartment is oriented so the tomato gets enough light—that adds also the cost of pot, soil, and probably fertilizer, and then you have a very toxic plant in your house, which needs to be kept away from kids and pets.

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        Ahh true. I do have outdoor pots for mine and natural sunlight. My grow tent houses herbs like basil that I use year round.

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          It is though. It’s a member of the nightshade family, and every part is quite toxic, except the fruit. Not an issue for a sensible adult, but kids and pets are not very sensible.

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            I’ve been around tomatoes way to much. I get a rash if I touch the plants now.

            Eggplants cause severe hives like poison oak.

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          As caretaker of a cat with pica, the toxic indoor plants can lead to very costly vet bills. Probably even worse with toddlers

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      Sure, it’s midsummer. But if the tariffs are still on in December… Well, I’ll probably still have cherry tomatoes on my balcony in Los Angeles, but it won’t work for someone in Minnesota.

      Fortunately, TACO.

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    He probably thought he was throwing tariffs on Italy. “Don’t get me wrong folks, I love Sbarro…”