honey look, freedom of expression and the right to protest in America just
gotdropped.Let’s not keep making the mistake of assuming Trump’s tweets have force of law. He’s just talking out of his ass again, just like he’s not actually invading greenland and canada. Notice how he’s talking about at least 4 different actions here, I’m pretty sure none of which he can actually do. 5 if you count thanking us for our attention to this matter (?). If Trump tries to do anything in this regard no judge* will uphold it.
*Obligatory other than Clarence Thomas
People in power do what he says. His word is de facto law, even if it’s illegal. It literally does not matter. You are in denial if you think he’s not going to get away with this.
Hey remember that wall that didn’t get built?
The fact that no one is trolling him about it shows how people are weirdly compliant about all this.
Let’s not keep making the mistake of assuming the rule of law matters at this point. If he does something and nobody stops it, its legality or lack there of is moot. If he says to do something and people do it and nobody stops him (or judge’s rulings about it are ignored), then it doesn’t matter that it was illegal.
I know you’re just trying to get people to calm down, but at this point, people are right to be scared and right to think these things could actually come to pass considering it has happened before. Maybe it won’t get that far… But plenty has already happened that should never have happened, and the US currently has a president who is illegally, specifically unconstitutionally, holding office and was allowed to be sworn in anyway, so it’s probably not a good idea to assume this won’t happen just because it’s also unconstitutional.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
1st ammendment to the constitution since conservatives love to claim they support it
“Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
Every time I scroll past this image, that’s the line that gets me. Bold threatening declaration by fascist dictator, then ends like a work email reminding you not to leave food in the cafeteria fridge over the weekend.
Ill do whatever the fuck I want bitch, shut the fuck up and go suck Elons dick.
We really need to tax the mega rich. I compiled this list of numbers after the President speech last night, it’s kinda wild:
$ 99,000 - National Median Income is less than $100 thousand. $ 1,000,000 - 1 Million Dollars. $ 485,000,000 - Cut Funds to International Relations and whatever. $ 1,000,000,000 - 1 Billion Dollars. There are over 400 Billionaires in America. $ 22,000,000,000 - Cut Funds to American Social Serivces through HHS (Human & Health Services). $ 244,000,000,000 - Elon Musks Net Worth. $ 1,620,000,000,000 - 1 Trillion Dollars - Meta (Facebooks) Corporate Net Worth. $19,900,000,000,000 - The U.S. National Debt in Jan 2017 (Obama to Trump) $27,800,000,000,000 - The U.S. National Debt in Jan 2021 (Trump to Biden) $36,000,000,000,000 - The U.S. National Debt in Jan 2025 (Biden to Trump)
I prefer eliminating them outright.
Let every single drop of their stocks be rendered worthless by abolition of capitalism!
And improve the livehoods of the “middle” and lower class, ie. the proletariat - but in such a way that for them it is far more beneficial to give up private property.
And the media has to be liberated from the shackle of fascism!
Yup it’s really the clear solution but when the ultra rich control the government then it won’t happen.
Checks fascist handbook. Jup. Checks out.
“illegal protests” Pretty sure Freedom of Speech and Assembly is part of the first amendment. He’s a putz
The guy of “freedom of speech”, everybody!
Trump needs to get a treatment of his own!
"You know the best strategy to counter this is to do nothing, it will burn itself out after awhile. If a few people die or get imprisoned well that’s okay as long as I don’t have to do anything difficult or will affect my portfolio and control. "
obviously I made this quote up but it is how I feel about the people in power that say they are against this administration but really are doing jack shit to support or engage the population. Sure there are some that are doing somethings and I appreciate that, but fuck man do most of the “opposition” party really not have a spine? Like what the fuck, there are millions of citizens that are genuinely scared for their life and freedom and all we are getting is crickets…
That’s because left-wing politicians are still politicians. They want to remain politicians they don’t want to end up getting arrested or lose their jobs, so they are only going to push back against this to the limit of which they think they can get away with, which basically means making statements, but otherwise not really doing anything.
If you want action you’ll have to do it yourself. Unfortunately this does present a bit of a problem because you are then playing into the narrative that the Right have, that everyone who opposes them is a criminal. Because by definition you’ll have to commit crimes in order to oppose them, since they will make opposing them a crime. Welcome to the wonderful circular logic of extremists.
I swallowed my misgivings and voted Democrat, just like I’ve done at each election since I turned 18, but handwaving away valid criticisms is not how you get people to side with you. Pressure needs to be put on the democrats to be better, too.
I’m 100% for valid criticisms—I don’t even consider myself a Democrat and I have no compunctions about criticizing them when I think they are wrong. But I’m pretty sure that meme is directed at those who withheld their vote.
It would be in theory, but mostly it’s just spread around as how any protest against Israel cost the democrats the US election (despite how it was considered widely unpopular to support Israel’s genocide by most democrats).
Unfortunately it may have.
A lot of voters are stupid. They see Israel=Bad, Biden/Kamala = pro-Israel, they stay home.
Then maybe Harris and her team should have listened to some feedback about their widely unpopular stance that seemed to somewhat equate them with the Republicans during an election which they absolutely couldn’t afford to be seen as remotely similar to republicans.
I’m not American so nobody got my vote, but seems to me like the issue is with the swathes of people choosing facism rather than progressives who chose not to vote.
Choosing how to act in a world like ours is tricky, anyone following a sense of right and wrong (even if I disagree with their judgement) instead of fear, hate, greed or whatever gets a gold star in my book.
Inaction is still a choice, though. I totally understand the sentiment behind that choice and even agree that we shouldn’t be forced to choose genocide, but the alternative that we got is a man who not only wants the same genocide, but wants to accelerate it, put American boots on the ground to assist in it, and then turn the bloodied ground into resorts while also wanting to worsen life across the globe. So, by refusing to act, they didn’t oppose that man getting into power. They cared so much about genocide that, ironically, they enabled making that genocide worse by not acting against that possibility.
The biggest issue, though, is with the people who couldn’t be bothered enough to vote. Some, what, 40% of Americans never vote? Of course, there’s plenty there who can’t due to things like gerrymandering, but there’s a huge swathe of white suburbanites who simply prefer the status quo to actually improving things.
by refusing to act, they didn’t oppose that man getting into power.
you can refuse to vote for a Democrat and still oppose the man getting into power.
But thanks to the two party system, what effect does it have? And I’m specifically talking about the voting day of the presidential election here, not primaries or other elections. Because that’s where those efforts will have the most impact. Not that the Dems deigned to give us even the illusion of a primary this election (or in 2016, truthfully), but so many of these people seem to shake their fist once every 4 years and then go to sleep like cicadas awaiting the next presidential election.
I don’t blame people for hating the weak candidates that the Dems consistently push forward to maintain the old guards’ leadership positions, but I do blame them for looking at the alternative and saying “I’m okay with the possibility of that man winning if I don’t vote or vote third party.” The chance of a Trump victory and all that it entailed was a line in the sand that they were willing to cross.
As a trans woman, I blame them for saying, “Your life is not worth biting the bullet for.”
The chance of a Trump victory and all that it entailed was a line in the sand that they were willing to cross.
that chance was thrust upon all of us. accepting reality doesn’t make him acceptable.
Yet refusing to accept the reality of mathematics that showed that, in a FPTP system, not voting for a viable candidate opposing a fascist only helps the fascist is acceptable? Nah. The blood is on the hands of both dems and non-voters. Non-voters/protest voters don’t give a fuck about trans people, as shown by their actions.
Non-voters/protest voters don’t give a fuck about trans people
prove it
refusing to accept the reality of mathematics
support your claim
What’s an illegal protest? I thought first amendment speech covered that
Also, how can he expel a student from a school he doesn’t control? or does he mean expel students from the country?
I’m so fkng tired to see American politics even on the salad.
I used to be the pride of my family for having finished college. Now it’s demonized by them.
I feel for the students of today. College was an important time for me. I experienced a lot of new ideas, my mind was opened. I didn’t get to do much in grad school, but my first four years of college changed me and I wouldn’t be the same without those experiences. The way the situation is escalating we may see colleges completely locked down or even abolished.
GUNS
If you’re actually manually replying this all over the place you are a king and I hope you don’t stop lol
just know that i will probably be banned before too long. lemmy pretends to be a leftist outlet but it’s actually a bunch of coward mods.
“…illegal protest…”?
Oh right, the US Constitution doesn’t exist any more.
lol it never has the united states has a long history of killing, maiming, and imprisoning protestors
