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Fuck firewire. Glad it’s dead. USB C is the best thing to happen to peripherals since the mouse.
I agree with USB-C, but there are still a million USB-A devices I need to use, and I can’t be bothered to buy adapters for all of them. And a USB hub is annoying.
Plus, having 1-2 USB-C ports only is never gonna be enough. If they are serious about it, why not have 5?
Yeah, I’d love at least one USB A type cause most of the peripherals I own use that.
ThinkPad gang laughing in redundant tf ports
WTF is this boomer facebook post shit?
The pursuit of the “perfect body.”
That’s hot af
In case you’re not aware, that’s a Framework laptop.
That’s the way to do it. I just wish Framework had a better selection of modules available and had more module bays on their laptops.
Is a dongle that doesn’t dangle even really a dongle at all?
What module would you like to have.
I would like RS-232 and RS-485 modules and a full size SD card reader would be nice too. It’s probably something I would end up building myself if I get a Framework laptop.
Edit: It looks like they have an SD card module now, nice.
I 3d printed a dongle that has a Logitech receiver in it. All their design files are online, so you can make your own pretty easily.
What would you do with RS-232 and RS-485?
Time travel
This is the way
USB-C is awesome though. I carry one charger amd dongle for HDMI and ethernet. It serves my many devices including Steam Deck, phone and laptop.
It is pretty flexible. But ethernet, displayport, 3.5mm, etc require an adapter. Plus, usb-c’s bandwidth is typically 40gbps max, whereas DisplayPort is 80gbps, for example. Not to mention that the number of ports is way lower than it used to be.
As long as a computer has 4 usb-c ports, I think you’re covered for everything.
Yes we had more different ports back in the days, but most were never used.
Usb-c is way more practical. Still that implies that you have more than 2 Usb-c ports.
At work both my monitors and networking go through the same port. The monitor also acts as a usb hub.
You can buy an adapter and plug everything in one port.
I love it personally.
You can only do that becayse your monitors are not high resolution and high refresh rate. The data cap for usb-c is not that high.
USB-C is just a connector, but Thunderbolt 5 uses it and for asymmetric uses (e.g. a monitor) it can hit 120Gbps.
Isn’t that going to support most monitors?
I only have one Usb-c port on my Surface Go 1, but it’s linked to my screen with 4 usb-A ports and one more Usb-c port.
Same as you, I feel I have enough, at least when it’s hooked up to the screen.
This is my ~8 month old work laptop.
Is a Dell.
2 usb c not pictured.
You have options.
My 4 month old laptop has hdmi on the back, ethernet on the left, four usb 3.whatever slots with two on each side, two USB c slots on the right side, and a microsd slot.
I think it even has a 3.5mm headset jack but I’d have to get out of bed to check. I don’t have any peripherals that use 3.5mm anymore though so it’s just a nice little bonus.
The apple bois wont appreciate this
As long as you’re not an apple cult member you do.
It’s beautiful.
Haha I have almost exactly the same one. Probably a slightly older model. Works for most stuff but mine only has 8GB RAM which is a bit of a killer…
Look at all those ports I’ll never need
We should have had USBC 20 years ago.
It’s still cool to have options
I dunno - I’m pretty sure I’d choose the modern MacBook Pro’s ports over any of these other options.
If you got that kind of money to spend on a laptop, sure. I really don’t.
Edit: to be clear, I know this is a stack of Mac’s in OPs picture, but the development that the entry models have basically no ports at all is a more recent development. Having to pick the pro just to be able to connect your stuff without dongles or hubs is a bit insane considering the price (and price difference).
I have an M2 Air, and all mine is missing from that is the SDXC slot, third TB4 and HDMI, and honestly, it’s fine. A third TB4/USB would be nice for when I’m doing my radio show and have to plug in my controller and mic while also charing my phone, but I already have a hub so it doesn’t bother me.
That said, the limited ports on my M1 mini are quite problematic. Two TB3/USB, but one of them is lost to a DisplayPort cable for my second monitor. So I have a desktop computer that functionally has three USB sockets, which ain’t great. But again, I have a hub, so it’s not a huge problem.
We’re mindlessly bashing Apple here, we don’t need your sensible reasoning!
Power, HDMI, a few USBs, and headphones, all you’ll ever likely need.
There’s no doubt a dongle for anything else.
Unless you want a desk setup. I have 2 monitors, kb, mouse, external dac, usb extension for thumbdrives, ethernet, usb soundcard for my mic and a kvm. That’s dp, hdmi, 6 usb-a, ethernet and I still sometimes plug-in 1-3 devices to charge them.
Wow is that firewire? Haven’t seen that in a while
I’m good with it to be honest. One port that can do it all. Not proprietary.
The longer we keep including legacy ports the longer they’ll stick around on peripheral devices
Manufactures won’t change until forced. The transition period might be a bit painful, but worth it.
The big issue in my eyes is that they cut down on ports period. Yeah sure you can do it all. Here’s 2 ports for your trouble. There’s not a meaningful amount of them after. My current personal laptop has 2 USB a, one type c, HDMI and microsd. My work laptop is the same, but flipped usba and c. That’s fine for a lot of people, including myself. But then you look at other machines like the xps 13 Plus which has like 2. Or a MacBook air. Which also has 2 but at least you get a headphone jack.
But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.
Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard. If you’re lucky, the capabilities are printed right on the device or in the manual. If you’re unlucky you’ll have to figure it out yourself.
You’re usually safe with Apple’s Type-C port supporting a lot.
But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.
I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.
Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard.
It’s definitely not as good as it should’ve been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.
Almost everything I have has a USB A or a DE-9 plug. I don’t have a single peripheral that plugs into a USB C port. I don’t want to deal with dongles and I’m certainly not going to replace my perfectly good hardware.
Eh, it’s been a standard for nearly a decade now. We’d still be on DVI with this attitude.
You don’t have to replace anything, but you will have to buy a cheap USB-C -> USB-A dongle
I love it personally. At work I have two monitors, networking, mouse and keyboard all going through one port. So much easier in my opinion.
Is this rage bait? Those are different macbooks. I think the bottom ones are pros. My current Pro M2 has HDMI and magsafe. My M1 (Air?) is like the top one, but is not in fact a pro and therefore does not provide as many ports.
Yes this is rage bait using an old meme from back when Johnny Ive was working for Apple; the top MacBook is from 2015 and for the last few years they put back MagSafe, HDMI, headphone port, and SD card readers.
The MacBook Pro still doesn’t have USB-A ports. I have an apple silicon model for work and have to use multiple dongles to connect all my peripherals. This is ridiculous for a 2000+ dollar computer.
USB A is bad and ditching it is the one good thing Apple has done.
There’s going to be a transition period, but we’re at a point where you can buy USB C peripherals for pretty much anything
USB-C has been out for 10 years and it’s a huge mess. For some devices it makes sense to switch like an external hard drive, but for things like a wired keyboard, I don’t need to repurchase it for USB-C, that serves no purpose.
Nobody’s telling you to repurchase.
If the keyboard has the cable attached, you can attach a tiny (and extremely cheap) adapter on the end and just leave it there, and if it’s not attached, you can do that or just replace the cable.
Or you could just get one of the many laptops that still have a USB-A port.
I can’t believe they cancelled 32 pin serial sort and D-sub VGA on 2000 dollar computer!
As an fyi, the USB 4 spec doesn’t include USB A anymore; only USB C.
Good.
Apple removing the disgusting pile of shit of a connector without a single redeeming quality was a big part of the fact that cables have C ends instead now.
People still use usb a?
Wired keyboard and mouse, USB sticks/thumb drive, and USB-A to lightning cable. I think I have more USB-A peripherals than USB-C.
I think I have two.
Luckily you can buy several USB-A to USB-C adapters for ~$1 each, instead of demanding manufacturers persist an outdated spec — that’s been superseded for a decade — and creating significantly more e-waste and headaches for everyone in the long run.
I don’t see the problem. Type-C ports can replace all those ports. If you want more ports, buy a dock.
And that becomes annoying if you constantly need more devices connected than what the Mac offers, and constantly have bring the dock.
In the past that was a non-issue. I can see why people would be annoyed by changes like that.
The dongle is about the size of adult thumb
i only have room for 2 thumbs
Who’s got two thumbs and room for them only?
I have one dock at home, one dock at work. The docks stay connected to the peripherals and I just have to plug in one cable into the laptop to connect everything. I much prefere that over having to plug in 3-4 different cables in the past.
I have no horses in this race either as I have the same setup (with a non-Mac laptop).
Just pointing out why Mac owners might be peefed off by the changes, that is all.
Porque no los dos?
And this picture doesn’t show the more recent models with the mag lock power, hdmi, and sd card reader.
Type c ports are the best. I connect my monitor through one and it has a type ports on it for a wired keyboard and speakers.
I can just plug my laptop into a monitor via USB-C, and with that one cable I have:
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the display/audio signal going to the monitor
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USB passthrough to the monitor that has my wireless KB+M dongle plugged into it
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65W charging for my laptop
It’s great.
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Right ?
My m1 MacBook is my first after a lifetime of thinkpads and dells etc.
For about a week, I thought I was short a few ports. Then I got a £20 dongle that takes 1 Port, gives me : 4 usb A, 1 USB C, all the card slots, HDMI and Ethernet.
You can plug anything into it. Life has never been easier.
It is a straight downgrade. The day you forgot to bring the dongle you are stranded.
Back in the ‘90’s, they had every port you could imagine, and some STILL felt the need to use a docking station. You really can’t please everyone. I actually like the streamlined setup more these days. Because I’d rather have ports I actually use and that are fairly standardised, as opposed to a bunch of others that are of no use.
I never used most of the ports on my 90’s laptops. Never used a parallel port, PS2, never used the PCMCIA cars slot, etc.
All I really need is a full sized HDMI, a few USB-C’s and one or two A’s for convenience.
