To be fair, I should have stopped drinking coffee 10 years ago for my blood pressure.

Once again, something that is absolutely not needed to explain what a forum software is and thus, should degrade gracefully. To a static png or something.

The era of not judging the means ended in, like, 1066 or smth. Vibe-coded stuff for example means burning down a couple of forests just so the AI can propose where to place a semicolon, long before a “result” is even visible.

It’s 2026, being vibecoded is a self-explanatory problem.

Oh, so it is, hadn’t noticed it at first.

And, sure enough, disabling webgl in about:config causes the page to throw the error, instead of degrading gracefully. An animation of random dots is not at all necessary to expose about a product that is a web forum.

You mean why does the site for a forum software need webgl, by which the only reason I can think of is tracking visitors somehow. It’s not like the background landscape on the site is dynamic or something.

Mind, seems to be vibecoded.

That’s because it aims to replace one of the wrong use cases that projects (FOSS or not) weirdly decide to use Discord for, such as replacement for a “contact forum” or “support forum”.

I have seen lots of people. Mostly not here, but that’s because we here know better (I’d hope). Runs along with usual complaints such that they can’t move from a platform with 9trillion captive users to a new budding platform, conveniently forgetting that when they began Shitter and stuff also had like 0 users yet people did move.

Exactly!

people act entitled as if all that you mention was trivial and that somehow FOSS devs “owe” people, but we only see those big corpos make it happen because… well, they’re big corpos, burning VC money on makint it happen and making it happen in a controlled jail.

Oooh!

If it wasn’t closed-source I’d actually recommend Teamspeak for that use case. Elsewise, of the ones I’ve known personally the stablest would be Mumble, but the problem is the clients.

It’s also important to recall that if we want to look for alternatives we have to be very willing to look for stuff that’s not Discord 1:1 because otherwise what would be the point. Plus, it’s unfair of us to ask full equivalence from hobbyist developers to match what a corporation that is selling our data to ensure cash flow can do.

Not sufficient as in not sufficiently light? IRC (eg.: ngircd) is even lighter!

You mean to say XMPP (eg.: Snikket + Conversations), right?

To my not up-to-date knowledge (2021-ish) audio calls work but they require an extension (on both participants) and are limited to 1:1, no “audio conference” support.

I do think there’s bridging for Mumble? If so that should at least cover the “audio chat” use case.

Good luck! Report results.

This whole “FOSS names are bad” sounds like a Mccarthyism sysop by this point. Like, really, who is pushing that crap?

XMPP aka Jabber.

$10 (CLP) that this will end in a nothingburger in three weeks.

Oh thanks, I know well about it. podman unshare is the reason why those permission issues are not major (eg.: you don’t need to ever sudo to solve the permission issues rootless causes, I think?). But my going to was more focused o borking the output or workflow of using some of the “usual” tools of a Linux console, such as needing to account for the potential existence of a podman environment on the user account (or any given user account, if doing house cleaning under root) if you ever need to rely on the recursive results of things like chmod or find.

Nothing (well maaaaaaybe IRC) beats XMPP / Jabber when it comes to installing for small institutional needs. There are pretty good servers around, such as Prosody.