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Others said the campaign had a darker side and stirred up fear of newcomers. Some backers of the Piddington referendum compared their fight against the asylum accommodation to the 1940 Battle of Britain against Nazi Germany.
Villager Herbert Owen, 76, said after voting on Tuesday that the independence referendum “isn’t just about Piddington,” adding: “It means everything our grandparents, our parents fought for. Today is the Battle of Britain.”
Comparing unauthorized immigration to an invasion has become increasingly common among politicians including Nigel Farage of Reform UK, and far-right groups that have been active in organizing and attending anti-immigrant protests.
What a bunch of assholes. From earlier in the article:
Residents of Piddington, which has a population of about 350…
That makes sense. Small town people need to have no say over issues pertaining to classes of people who are “different” from themselves. They’re too insulated and lack exposure to those who aren’t like them to properly recognize that they’re human beings in all the ways that they’d recognize if they knew someone from said class.
Brief story: decades ago, while I was on excellent drugs at a rave, my homophobia (thanks, Mom!) instantly disappeared when I realized the hilarious gay guy, in a group of us smoking cigarettes, was no different from me. “He just wants to take his drugs and have a good time on Saturday night,” I realized. He was no different from me!
Small town people need drugs and a good time with people unlike themselves.
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Just let them get their independence. Build a razorwire fence around the village, invalidate their passports, and cut off water, power, and phones. And just in case they have boats, place a coast guard boat in front of their harbour (or whatever they have).
There is there classic film called passport to pimlico.
The story of how technically speaking pimlico belonged to some foreign prince. At the time because the post war rationing was making life difficult… They all decided to secede the UK. Only to find the actually rationing wasn’t that bad when faced with all of the other issues that came from being isolationist.
It was relevant then. It was relevant during the brexit referendum. And it is relevant today.
Although this shouldn’t be confused for the cases Scotland Ireland and Wales make for independence.
Just a heads up: Ireland has independence. Maybe you’re thinking of unification or independence of Northern Ireland.
Fair point
Although this shouldn’t be confused for the cases Scotland Ireland and Wales make for independence.
Why? Devolving power is a good thing.
Oh absolutely. That’s what I’m saying. The biggots in this village, and the movie I’m referencing, seem to think that all their problems will disappear if they break away.
Scotland Wales and Ireland absolutely should have independence should they want it. There’s a big difference. These aren’t tiny groups of people who think all of their woes will evaporate as soon as they declare independence.
drugs can only help overcome views that are not your own
Nice little supremacist rant of your own in that body text lmao
I say, give them independence. Cut them off from the grid, water, sewage. Add border checks requiring visas if they want to enter the rest of the country. Treat them how you would treat any other country, with the influence of 300 people. See how long they last.
As a nice gesture, let them have another referendum to see if they want to rejoin.
Yeah, it’s really a vote for free-riding. So bill them for everything they consume, and mark it up a bit extra because they’re being cunts.
Town expects to be taken seriously
It’s named Piddington
There’s an old Top Gear episode where Jeremy Clarkson makes fun of that name. How it’s like something you’d call someone who’s a bit of a wet blanket. “He’s a bit of a Piddingron.”
They say that “Today is the Battle of Britain” yet for some reason they switched sides and joined the fascists
Send a couple of Spitfires to strafe them, see how they like that.
Serious question, if the boys that fought fascism knew the future is where their grandchildren wouldn’t be able to afford a house, would stop having children on masse, and wouldn’t be able to get hired. Do you think they’d still have fought? It made their sacrifice worth it?
At least they have some foreign food. On the downside, there’s huge grooming gangs that the police doesn’t dare do anything about because they might be accused of racism.
The reason houses are not affordable has nothing to do with fighting fascism, so it’s an absurd question.
there’s huge grooming gangs that the police doesn’t dare do anything about because they might be accused of racism
That’s a lame excuse the police use to cover up for their gross incompetence. And the similar police inaction on predominantly white grroming gangs can’t be credibly attributed to fears of accusations of racism.
Serious question, if the boys that fought fascism knew the future is where their grandchildren wouldn’t be able to afford a house, would stop having children on masse, and wouldn’t be able to get hired. Do you think they’d still have fought? It made their sacrifice worth it?
That generation themselves took charge of the new councils that in many cases would then veto further housing development to put upward pressure on the value of the homes they had secured, starting to pull up the ladder after many new homes had been freshly built for them following the destruction of the war. Their direct children who inherited the housing are still profiting quite handsomely with similar incentives, although it’s terrible for the great grandchildren. So the bad part is basically working as they themselves intervened to achieve, and regardless of that now reducing homeownership rates those rates still remain higher than those of when that generation was growing up and the homes are much nicer in quality than the slums of the time which were destroyed.
People stopped having children en masse because new technology allowed for family planning and for people to do what seemed important to them in life rather than suddenly winding up as parents and being forced to lock in.
The unemployment rate of 4.9% is much lower than what that war-winning generation had experienced in the interwar period.
None of this situation seems like it would be helped by becoming the slaves of a self-proclaimed master race who themselves were under the unrestrained despotism of a rabid band of bloodthirsty lunatics.
They would be horrified that there are bell ends like you cropping up again in their own country. Seriously.
Let’s hear from a primary source: https://youtu.be/c2LTcqnFXY0?is=lgF6x1X8xFdWLC_Z
I’m not British, I’m Belgian. And when i remember my grandfather, he’d be horrified by the current society.
Frankly the only ant-immigrant parties left are the far fight fascists, and I understand you associate me with them. But that’s not at all representative of. I want the political landscape to be like Denmark.
Respect for people, freedom, laws, the press…, still hard on illegal immigration. I really hate that the only people standing against unlimited immigration are the pro-Russian mega corrupt far-right.
Maybe ask yourself WHY it’s only the far right parties that are anti-immigrant and blaming all society’s ills on immigrants? Have a little think about that, and about what happened in the lead up to WW2. See if you can spot any similarities between those people who’s policies you support and the people your grandfather and my father fought against.
Respect for people, freedom, laws, the press…,
Have you seen what’s been happening across the pond?
That’s nice of them to show me what village i am not going to visit. Glad moronic racists are happy to show themselves on the map
Not even to take a piddle on piddlington?
I think this could be a thing. Wouldn’t want the new housing for migrants to smell like piss, after all. Gotta put our best foot forward….
Wait until Pissborough decides to secede.
For that, I might license my food truck name to some peeps over there.
(I’m gonna name it “all due respect”. Well sell asparagus, radishes, beer. Anything that can make your piss extra stanky. We’ll be located across from Trump’s grave.)
Nothing racist about opposing 1000+ migrants being suddenly moved into your area which previously had 300-400 people. Doesn’t matter where they’re from - that’s going to completely change the way of life.
I remember when people were happily housing Ukrainian migrants after Russia first attacked. The government even paid out grants to help people do it. It does 100% matter where they are from. It seems that it’s a lot more difficult to welcome people into the country if they aren’t the same colour as you.
Or maybe it is easier to integrate ukrainians than deeply rural people escaping from wars caused by Europeans and US.
Honestly I think it’s deliberate, at that point the problem isn’t who is being moved in it’s that there’s no way the existing infrastructure and services can support the population suddenly quadrupling. Easy way to manufacture a small crisis to drum up anti-immigration fervor.
If this is the piddington I think it is, they’re not that far from the outskirts of Bicester (pronounced bister) which has had an almost nonstop expansion since 2013 and is home to one of the most hyped up nothingburger shopping “villages” I’ve ever seen which means constant tourists in the area in a much more disruptive way. Also turns out this migrant housing place is going to be in Bicester itself so I can’t even comprehend the self-importance required to try to secede like this…
At least when their barely-a-worthwhile-orgy of a village falls apart, they’ll be able to seek asylum within easy walking distance.
Are you suggesting the proud people of the Principality of Piddington are practicing polygamy?
Probably more likely incest based on how fucking dumb they are.
Yeah, i wonder how that would go with no money to support anything from infrastructure to basics like electricity.
You need to be very stupid or old, say 75 or 80 to support something like this.
It s a referendum to show opposition to a political decisions they didn’t have a say in the matter.
They just didn’t like the democratic outcome, so they’re spitting their dummy and throwing toys from the pram.
Or do you think that a gaggle pf Piddington gammon and bulletheads should be given the veto on other UK-wide policies as well?
They had the same say as everyone else in the country. They voted in a representative who sits in the House of Commons.
The problem here, and the reason I’m in support of this type of protest (though I strongly oppose their stupid, hateful cause) is that our first-past-the-post voting system is completely broken and desperately needs to be updated.Yeah. It s unreal to me that theses politics are so common yet no citizen at all had a say in the matter. Next election gonna be interesting
What do you think should be the system? How do we give them more of a say in the matter? I think we need a new voting system, which none of the political parties except the Greens are willing to do.
The news, now majors on the minors and the village idiots suddenly become emboldened by their stupidity
I mean, it’s a small village of 300-400 people. Why the fuck there. Everyone probably knows each other, there are alot of old people, probably nothing much to do there. The resistance is understandable, it’s like a government telling you someone random will be living in your family’s backyard
It’s more like the government telling you someone random will be living next door to your family’s house. You know, exactly like normal.
Maybe some new genes would help everyone out.
Why are people so scared of anyone not like them?
I always love meeting people from different backgrounds than me.
Tell me your life. What’s it like where you are from. What’s different from here. What do you miss and what are you happy to leave behind.
What’s your cat’s name and will you invite me over for dinner. ?
Good for them. Still havent understand why western society push infinite migrant into their country without any precaution. Mb cheap labor or new consoomer ? Anyway if the gouvernement deem necessary to create flyers to tell migrant rape is bad I dont want them as neighbor. I wander how Lemmy would react if it were Britain going to another country and local were reacting like this. The double standard is unreal and behind all of that nobody can even answer the simple question why do they have to accept infinite migrant and most important who vote for it ? Nobody ever vote for having migrants in thoses enormous proportion, yet western gouvernement keep pushing for it. And ppl still play dumb to explain why all of sudden anti migrant sentiment is on the rises and capitalize by the right. And everywhere the right is on the rise. Hope the next gouvernement prosecute the one that took thoses decisions that never had the best interest of their citizen
Anyway if the gouvernement deem necessary to create flyers to tell migrant rape is bad I dont want them as neighbor.
The government saying something isn’t a smart thing to base your decisions on. The government can say whatever propaganda they want. Hell, in the US, the government said immigrants were eating people’s pets. It’s a bold-faced lie, but it’s far from the first lie a government has made to influence their population.
That “infinite migrant” thing is a far-right propaganda talking point. Nice job falling for it…
Hope the next gouvernement prosecute the one that took thoses decisions that never had the best interest of their citizen
Funnily enough, that’s also a common talking point amongst outright Nazis. Kinda weird how a certain group of people dreams of punishing elected leaders for doing what they were elected to do. Like upholding the law.
Still havent understand
I believe that, based on the rest of your comment.
western society push infinite migrant into their country without any precaution
They didn’t.
Anyway if the gouvernement deem necessary to create flyers to tell migrant rape is bad
Which was a stupid, patronising racist bit of imbecility.
I wander how Lemmy would react if it were Britain going to another country and local were reacting like this.
Post-Brexit, the Spanish took measures against the tax-dodging parasites in the Costa del Sol and it failed to cause an international incident.
Nobody ever vote for having migrants in thoses enormous proportion
You can look at party manifestos before you vote. All the parties have policies regarding immigration.
And ppl still play dumb to explain why all of sudden anti migrant sentiment is on the rises and capitalize by the right.
Hundreds of millions spent on propaganda and funding fascists, of course, had no impact on the sentiments of the easily brainwashed.
And everywhere the right is on the rise.
No, not everywhere. And when you look at who’s funding the right, it’s largely foreigners or people serving as fronts for foreign money (like crypto billionaires, more correctly called money launderers), but the same xenophobes who rant about immigrants don’t seem to mind rich foreign fascists interfering in our politics.
“I wander how Lemmy would react if it were Britain going to another country and local were reacting like this.”
I take it you’ve never been to Spain. Or seen a history book.
I’m aware they did and im aware how your react that s why I made that statement…
Nice edit.
Regarding Spain tell me how the situation in Ceuta ?
What is your point?
I edited it while you were replying. Probably like this one.
Dont import massively migrant against the will of your population and specially when this policies put your population wellbeing and safety at risk. U know kinda simple, specially when no citizen at all vote for these policies
Can I ask you where you are from? From your writing style I’m guessing it’s not the UK.
Fr
It’s also apparently not from a place where education is to a particularly high standard.
Cause ? Try to avoid ad hominem and just talk about ly argument should be easy
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