If the majority of my country wanted the war to end through negotiation and only 24% wanted to keep fighting, I would be fucking pissed if my country started kidnapping people off the street to die on the front line.
Russia has shown it is not willing to negotiate in good faith, every “negotiation” has been for them to keep everything they wanted, stolen from the other country. Would you surrender to an invading country even if you knew it would end poorly? Your link right there just says that they want it to end. Of course they do. That is not what would happen if they give up fighting. They have tried the “agreement” thing before and it hasn’t worked at any point. The overall lack of information in your post link pretty much makes you sound like a Russian shill. Just FYI
It’s like you didn’t read what I said. Your link does not say that the people of Ukraine are willing to surrender. You are reading into it what you, apparently, want to. Citizens in ever war want negotiations to win out. That’s hugely different from voting to surrender.
It’s a sacrifice Putin wants to make, but unfortunately they’re fighting back instead of surrendering and waiting for mass deportations to concentration camps
If by “fighting back”, you mean the government is forcing civilians to die on the front line until they run out of civilians, despite the majority wanting to stop fighting immediately, sure. But I don’t support that.
I’m not making the sacrifice. It’s not up to me. It’s up to the invader (Russia) to stop invading other countries, or it’s up to Ukraine to surrender. If they surrender though there’s no guarantee that they’ll live anyway. It’s not like Russia doesn’t have a history of genociding the people after they invade them.
Why do you think countries should be able to invade other countries? Why aren’t you complaining about Russia invading? They could stop whenever they want, right?
Also, you mentioned a report of Ukrainians wanting the war to end. Obviously they do. Who wouldn’t. That’s not the same as surrendering though. Russia could stop aggressing. Alternatively to your presentation, 71% of Ukrainians say they’re happy right now. It’s about the same as before the invasion started currently. That’s certainly not what a group who wants to surrender would say.
No one wants to keep fighting except those controlling it. Really this comes down to Putin continuing to fight, though. He’s the one person that can put a stop to everything, right now.
If the majority of my country wanted the war to end through negotiation and only 24% wanted to keep fighting, I would be fucking pissed if my country started kidnapping people off the street to die on the front line.
https://sfg.media/en/a/ukrainians-want-end-war-gallup-poll/
Russia has shown it is not willing to negotiate in good faith, every “negotiation” has been for them to keep everything they wanted, stolen from the other country. Would you surrender to an invading country even if you knew it would end poorly? Your link right there just says that they want it to end. Of course they do. That is not what would happen if they give up fighting. They have tried the “agreement” thing before and it hasn’t worked at any point. The overall lack of information in your post link pretty much makes you sound like a Russian shill. Just FYI
So fuck democracy when it comes to war?
It’s like you didn’t read what I said. Your link does not say that the people of Ukraine are willing to surrender. You are reading into it what you, apparently, want to. Citizens in ever war want negotiations to win out. That’s hugely different from voting to surrender.
Most Ukrainians don’t want to keep fighting. Simple poll!
Simple brain.
I guess their lives are a sacrifice you’re willing to make. How noble of you.
It’s a sacrifice Putin wants to make, but unfortunately they’re fighting back instead of surrendering and waiting for mass deportations to concentration camps
If by “fighting back”, you mean the government is forcing civilians to die on the front line until they run out of civilians, despite the majority wanting to stop fighting immediately, sure. But I don’t support that.
I’m not making the sacrifice. It’s not up to me. It’s up to the invader (Russia) to stop invading other countries, or it’s up to Ukraine to surrender. If they surrender though there’s no guarantee that they’ll live anyway. It’s not like Russia doesn’t have a history of genociding the people after they invade them.
Why do you think countries should be able to invade other countries? Why aren’t you complaining about Russia invading? They could stop whenever they want, right?
Also, you mentioned a report of Ukrainians wanting the war to end. Obviously they do. Who wouldn’t. That’s not the same as surrendering though. Russia could stop aggressing. Alternatively to your presentation, 71% of Ukrainians say they’re happy right now. It’s about the same as before the invasion started currently. That’s certainly not what a group who wants to surrender would say.
You guys keep ignoring the part where only 24% want to continue fighting, lol.
No one wants to keep fighting except those controlling it. Really this comes down to Putin continuing to fight, though. He’s the one person that can put a stop to everything, right now.
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The leaders of every NATO country are loving this, lol. Their plan is a war of attrition with Russia, using every last Ukrainian.
Simple as the one organised in Crimea Ivan
Is that xenophobia I smell?