It’s a sacrifice Putin wants to make, but unfortunately they’re fighting back instead of surrendering and waiting for mass deportations to concentration camps
If by “fighting back”, you mean the government is forcing civilians to die on the front line until they run out of civilians, despite the majority wanting to stop fighting immediately, sure. But I don’t support that.
I’m not making the sacrifice. It’s not up to me. It’s up to the invader (Russia) to stop invading other countries, or it’s up to Ukraine to surrender. If they surrender though there’s no guarantee that they’ll live anyway. It’s not like Russia doesn’t have a history of genociding the people after they invade them.
Why do you think countries should be able to invade other countries? Why aren’t you complaining about Russia invading? They could stop whenever they want, right?
Also, you mentioned a report of Ukrainians wanting the war to end. Obviously they do. Who wouldn’t. That’s not the same as surrendering though. Russia could stop aggressing. Alternatively to your presentation, 71% of Ukrainians say they’re happy right now. It’s about the same as before the invasion started currently. That’s certainly not what a group who wants to surrender would say.
It does not mean surrender. It means, rather than fight to the Kremlin, they want to negotiate a halting of Russian aggression when they agree to leave their territory. It could mean some concessions are fine, but this doesn’t go into any detail. It’s next to useless to draw any meaningful conclusions.
Also, it’s a fucking year old. Get newer sources if you want to keep making this claim.
No one wants to keep fighting except those controlling it. Really this comes down to Putin continuing to fight, though. He’s the one person that can put a stop to everything, right now.
Most Ukrainians don’t want to keep fighting. Simple poll!
Simple brain.
I guess their lives are a sacrifice you’re willing to make. How noble of you.
It’s a sacrifice Putin wants to make, but unfortunately they’re fighting back instead of surrendering and waiting for mass deportations to concentration camps
If by “fighting back”, you mean the government is forcing civilians to die on the front line until they run out of civilians, despite the majority wanting to stop fighting immediately, sure. But I don’t support that.
I’m not making the sacrifice. It’s not up to me. It’s up to the invader (Russia) to stop invading other countries, or it’s up to Ukraine to surrender. If they surrender though there’s no guarantee that they’ll live anyway. It’s not like Russia doesn’t have a history of genociding the people after they invade them.
Why do you think countries should be able to invade other countries? Why aren’t you complaining about Russia invading? They could stop whenever they want, right?
Also, you mentioned a report of Ukrainians wanting the war to end. Obviously they do. Who wouldn’t. That’s not the same as surrendering though. Russia could stop aggressing. Alternatively to your presentation, 71% of Ukrainians say they’re happy right now. It’s about the same as before the invasion started currently. That’s certainly not what a group who wants to surrender would say.
You guys keep ignoring the part where only 24% want to continue fighting, lol.
You didn’t read the link you posted (typical). It says 24% don’t prefer to continue fighting until victory and most prefer a negotiated settlement.
And that means what?
It does not mean surrender. It means, rather than fight to the Kremlin, they want to negotiate a halting of Russian aggression when they agree to leave their territory. It could mean some concessions are fine, but this doesn’t go into any detail. It’s next to useless to draw any meaningful conclusions.
Also, it’s a fucking year old. Get newer sources if you want to keep making this claim.
It means they don’t want to fight any more, and despite that fact, innocent civilians are being kidnapped off the street and sent to the front lines.
No one wants to keep fighting except those controlling it. Really this comes down to Putin continuing to fight, though. He’s the one person that can put a stop to everything, right now.
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The leaders of every NATO country are loving this, lol. Their plan is a war of attrition with Russia, using every last Ukrainian.
Simple as the one organised in Crimea Ivan
Is that xenophobia I smell?