• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
    556·
    7 days ago

    Oh no, kids today speak as differently to us as we did to prior generations, how cringe!

    Let’s go, there’s a Gammelfleischparty at the club tonight.

    • alleycat@feddit.org
      219·
      7 days ago

      If you think dehumanizing women is just “kids speaking differently today” then I don’t know what to tell you…

        • Kobibi@sh.itjust.works
          162·
          7 days ago

          Terms like Foid and Maxxing come directly from incel communities.

          It’s shitty but also interesting how these places outreach themselves in terms of spreading language, there was a Behind The Bastards episode on it recently I think

          • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
            156·
            7 days ago

            Never heard of “Foid” (nor do I know what it means) but “-maxxing” has become pretty widespread now and afaik even the original term (“looksmaxxing”) wasn’t a term dehumanizing women, just a dumb idea (from a community that dehumanizes women). Usually, the term “-maxxing” is used highly ironically, too, from what I could gather and quite disconnected from incel communities (maybe even claimed away, it’s not “their slang” anymore).

            Also I am in my thirties and not really connected to youth slang (much less even to american youth slang since I’m from Germany). To tell me that one does not know what to tell me when making a statement as above is the least helpful thing to do.

            • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
              81·
              7 days ago

              All of the examples given are specifically terms that have to do with more conservative adjacent ideologies. If the words were things like “bet” and “cap” I’d have a different opinion. I believe you have missed the subtext of this meme entirely.

              • wieson@feddit.org
                2·
                6 days ago

                It’s not CyberEggs fault that op chose slang from 4chan and called it genα slang

                • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
                  1·
                  6 days ago

                  But that’s entirely the point the meme is trying to make. It’s pointing out that gen alpha has an alarming amount of it. It’s like saying “This is actually a dark comedy, there is a layer of irony over the humor” then you jump in and say “hey, it’s not their fault the director decided to mix sadness in!” I’m not even attacking them lol.

            • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              52·
              7 days ago

              Foid bedeutet soviel wie 'female humanoid", ist also eine direkte dehumanisierung von Frauen.

              Dieser slang wird auch von deutschen Jugendlichen genutzt, nur halt auf sozialen Medien die du vielleicht nicht verwendest (Instagram und tiktok sind voll davon). Falls du es mal gesehen hast, dieses Cortisol Meme ist ursprünglich eine Nazi dogwhistle.

              • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
                3·
                6 days ago

                Okay, “foid” ist dann wirklich kritisch.

                Wie gesagt, “-maxxing” hab ich mitbekommen, aber der Weg, den das (soweit ich das mitbekommen habe) in den Mainstream genommen hat, entschärft den Begriff bzw. nimmt den Incels die Möglichkeit, sich noch großartig darauf zu berufen, was ich wiederum eigentlich ganz cool finde.

        • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          102·
          7 days ago

          Most of the english language youth slang stems directly from fascists and incels on 4chan. They aren’t just funny words but an indicator on the radicalization of especially young men towards extremely hateful positions

          • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
            3·
            6 days ago

            As a father of two boys under 10, this is, and has been, terrifying me. I know they are going to be exposed to it. I know they are great, caring, open-minded, loving kids, and I hope I’ve thus far raised them right…but I’ve also had a few friends fall into the incel path along the way.

            Like, I already know that Trump’s 2016 popularity was almost entirely driven by through 4chan, getting him popular enough to hold through the primaries while everyone else dropped out was almost completely meme-driven and aimed at impressionable young men. And by then I had already known 4chan as being a decades-long toxic dump of the internet. Shit…remember 2016 r/the_donald? Was practically 4chan-lite.

            And don’t get me started on 2008, Ron Paul, and early reddit. Holy shit, man, having fallen into his fandom then and now looking at it from the outside…2008 Ron Paul feels like it was a goddamn psyop aimed at young men. Like a proof-of-concept for leveraging social-media for 2016 Trump.

  • pjwestin@lemmy.world
    23·
    6 days ago

    Look, Gen Z has some stinkers (“that’s fire,” sucks, and that’s coming from the generation that gave you, “hella,”), but their use of Chud is spectacular. A perfect encapsulation of every grubby, right-wing freak from incels to groypers. A near perfect onomatopoeia.

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        5·
        6 days ago

        Yeah, but that doesn’t mean it was used regularly as slang, or that it carried the same connotations. “Lowkey,” has been around for ages, but it wasn’t slang until the late 90s, and it isn’t even used the same way. (“Keep it lowkey,” vs., “that was lowkey brilliant.”)

        • GorGor@startrek.websiteEnglish
          3·
          6 days ago

          I feel like it was though. Chode was maybe more common, but chud was used too. The movie followed the name afterall, not the other way around.

          Your example for lowkey is using it as an adverb as opposed to an adjective. A chud has always been a noun.

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      7·
      6 days ago

      It doesn’t however, offset the sin that is “foid,” calling women “female humanoids” in casual speach is dehumanizing as fuck.

        • pjwestin@lemmy.world
          12·
          6 days ago

          Yeah, the casual way, “f*g,” was used, even into the early 2000s, is pretty shocking in hindsight.

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        31·
        6 days ago

        I’m sorry, but it really wasn’t:

        The term originates from the 1984 movie C.H.U.D. In the film, the acronym refers to a group of humanoid, flesh-eating monsters that were once humans, but mutated due to radioactive waste. While the word may have started pejorative use in 2003 to describe any repulsive person, its usage shifted as it became popular in the 2020s on sites such as Twitter and Reddit, after the podcast Chapo Trap House frequently used it to describe those who are ignorant or far-right. Source

        • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          am familiar with the movie, saw it in the theaters lol. people started calling racist dickbags chuds soon after.

          What, you don’t get the resemblance?

          lol. cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 days ago

        Oh, I haven’t heard it used that was. I still see it used pretty much exclusively to mean, “right-wing dumb-ass,” but sometimes more broadly as, “online dumb-ass.”

        • marzhall@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 days ago

          Personally I’ve only just started seeing it used that way on telegram within the last month, seems to be a recent thing.

  • Glytch@lemmy.world
    9·
    6 days ago

    “The slang I grew up with makes logical sense. Whatever those kids are saying is just random nonsense.” -Every old fogey since the development of language

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
      5·
      7 days ago

      Yep. Alt-righties / racists are still on the “secret cabal of Jews is why your life has problems” schtick, so if you see “goyim” being thrown around or “You know, ((THEM))” it’s usually a dog whistle.

      It’ll get used like “sheep” like “eat slop, goy”. As if people who aren’t anti-Semitic are somehow “sheeple” letting themselves be manipulated.

      That kinda thing started getting used heavily around meme communities like iFunny where you could never be sure if it was being “ironic” or not. (Although I heard the FBI caught various violent racist groups trying to recruit through there).

      It started to break out, unfortunately.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        14·
        6 days ago

        Yep. Alt-righties / racists are still on the “secret cabal of Jews is why your life has problems” schtick

        Most leftists are the same, they’re just more politically correct about it.

  • enkille@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    7 days ago

    unwilling to look it up, i’m going to assume foid is a shortened form of freakazoid

  • treesquid@lemmy.world
    102·
    6 days ago

    Chud is super old, the movie C.H.U.D. (Carnivorous Humanoid Underground Dwellers) came out in 1984 and has been used ever since. It’s funny that it’s most popular now, but it’s as old as the others

    • bless@lemmy.ml
      11·
      6 days ago

      If it’s from 4chan it’s not slang because they don’t go out

  • Axolotl@feddit.it
    51·
    6 days ago

    Slangs in 90: shows perfectly normal stuff

    Slang in 2026: shows 2 slurs and 1 insult

    We are def not biased huh