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Cake day: June 30th, 2023

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  • I agree with your statements that the problems go beyond just Netanyahu but I would characterize the establishment of the current state as problematic than illegitimate.

    Then discourse then would be whether the Jewish people have a claim to the land, the same as Arabs. I believe, despite the wrongs of the crusaders, colonialism, and religion in the region; they do.

    I hate that the region is more or less established due to geopolitics, exploitation by the wealthy and political classes, and religious fervor than fairness than the right of a people to self-govern.


  • I agree with you that you can’t support the current Netanyahu government and IDF and be anti-genocide.

    Hamas abducted and kills innocent people. That’s a fact. I can be anti-genocide and anti-attacks on civilians without contradicting myself.

    A two-state solution is messy and complicated but it’s what the world needs. Arabs and Jews both have claims to the land throughout history. The Jews were displaced from it due to horrific antisemitism throughout history. One horrific act doesn’t deserve another. The west (and specifically the USA) needs to withhold its support, Israel can do what it’s doing specifically because it’s emboldened by western support. It’s surrounded by Arab nations that hates its people, it could be the ones being oppressed if not for the west and the west remind of that.



  • I hope that db0 doesn’t get defederated.

    I would hope we can all remember that we can be pro-Palestine, anti-genocide without being anti-semitic, you can be anti-Hamas without being pro-genocide, you can believe in a state for the Jewish people and also be against the current government of Israel.

    We are all on the fediverse for similar reasons, we’ll be a lot more successful trying to see the nuance in people’s views instead making enemies of each other out of righteous indignation. This goes for everyone