Sounds like they don’t want to sell lifetime memberships.
I would guess that their seed cap is looking for payback, or they realized that the lifetime plans are going to put them out of business.
They’re running really high operating costs, live service (that no one wants) with commercials (no one wants) trying to compete with people that could stand up that same piece of content from pirate source in two minutes with no ads.
It’d be different if they just cached tvdb, epg, and provided low rez proxies, and kept basic features, they could live for a really long time.
They can’t pay for the mess they’re making trying to make more money :)
LOL. As if I would pay these clowns for access to booty that I’ve captured from the high seas.
Jellyfin is what to use.
I love being able to post this yet again:
I have a lifetime Plex pass I got during a big sale like a decade ago, at 1/10 the price they are raising it to. I haven’t used it in about 6 months and never plan to even log into it again. Jellyfin 4 life!
I mean, I also have a whole bunch of windows keys from old MSDN accounts and stuff, but I am sure as shit not going to install Windows on my machines just because I can!
What about Emby? Or Kodi? Or DNLA streams?
This is one of those situations where they’ll jack the fee up. Wait for everyone to stop pissing themselves. Then become heroes for listening and lowering it to the halfway point between the old few and the new one.
It’s to push people to buy “before it goes up.”
After the date then they can heavily discount it “for a limited time.”
This is why I have Jellyfin.
wdym “borderline”
I was waiting for this story after I saw that on my inbox.
Waiting until “plex pro” and they slowly sunset features on the original plex lifetime pass.
Existing Lifetime Plex Pass memberships are unaffected by the upcoming price hike; if you already locked in your sub at a lower rate, you won’t have to pay any additional fees, and your service isn’t changing
For now.
It’d be mildly annoying to have to switch to Jellyfin, or some other option, but I have no qualms ditching Plex if it turns to crap. Don’t ever give into the sink cost fallacy.
I moved to Jellyfin a while back and I’ve really enjoyed it. Maybe not better, but on par with Plex in most respects.
That’s the thing: it doesn’t have to be better since it’s 100% free. It could be considerably worse and still be the better choice for the price.
The fact that it’s mostly on par is absolute gravy.
Very good point. I definitely moved over in protest of Plex’s rug pull, so fuck them.
The only reason I’m still using plex is the smart TV I have doesn’t support Jellyfin.
Time to set up a Linux stream box that does support it (and whatever else I want).
Time to set up a Linux stream box that does support it (and whatever else I want).
This is the way. I made a tiny PC to use with my dumb TV, and I can’t understand why anyone would do anything else (except for laziness, I understand that).
I plan on replacing it with the steam box, if it turns out to be functional for streaming.
Roku has a jellyfin app. In case you didn’t want to setup up your own Linux stream box
Yeah a cheap Roku box or stick will run a jellyfin or emby client. I run these.
Though I know some people are complaining about Roku lately, their connection requirements etc. I wished there was a Roku equivalent that was open source. Like an open source clone of the Roku OS you could flash on to Roku hardware. Or jailbreak it or something.
Shoutout to Emby!!
If there were, I’d soooo develop for it.
Roku added like 4 new ads on the homepage recently in canada
There is the HDMI pi cm4 carrier board and projects like OSMC (Open Source Media Center)
Not sure what tv that is but some have clients that can be side loaded.
It is a Samsung like other comments have mentioned. It sounds like a Jellyfin app was added for Samsung recently according to them, so I’ll have to check it out.
I still want to build a stream box though.
It’s probably a Samsung Tizen model TV. Samsung has a few different TV OSes, and apparently the official app for the Tizen model has been caught up in Samsung’s internal approvals process for literal years now.
The Jellyfin official app for Tizen TVs has been available through the Samsung store for several months now.
I was considering a Plex sub to make things easier to share my collection with family and friends who aren’t tech savvy enough to sideload stuff and the second that the Tizen app was approved, I closed the Plex chapter of my life forever.
There now is a real app dor samsung tizen and before that you could sideload one from github (though thats a different flavor of technical then a docker server)
It’s a US-American company, of course it will turn to crap. Enshittification is everywhere.
This has little to do with the country it’s based in and everything to do with the economic system it exists in.
Sure, but on top of a horrible system, the US also shits on privacy, personal rights, people,…As a bonus kinda. Also the worst of the worst of the companies that fuck this planet raw and kill the web and the future for us all, are US-american.
No doubt. Just saying If you’re in the capitalist world, it’s coming to you too.
Hopefully I’m dead by then, and i leave no kids who would have to suffer :)
Why not run both? It’s what I do. Then if there’s an issue with Plex you can use Jellyfin. Running both has helped friends who have an issue with Plex as well, and not needing to rely on their auth has been nice when they’ve had issues with it
if it turns to crap
Already happened years ago!
Explain. How is it crap? Excluding the price, from the perspective of those of us who got Plex pass many years ago, what’s crap? I see too many people saying this and it’s just disingenuous. If your gripe is the price, say that, and that’s totally fair.
Jumping to $250 USD was borderline… $750 fucking crossed that point and took my job! (Referencing offensive like AI)
I just don’t understand why they don’t stop offering it altogether. This price hike shows they can’t really afford to offer it at all. Just stop. It’s okay. You don’t have to keep providing this service tier to new users.
It’s one final cash grab before moving to sub only.
Yeah. You mean subbing to bankruptcy 😂
They don’t want it but still want to offer an option for it… its just a complete ripoff at that price though.
“Can’t ““Afford”””
Lol. A lifetime subscription for a singular one time payment is a bad deal in any service that requires upkeep. That’s what makes it so enticing to people generally.
I paid for a lifetime plex membership in 2014. It’s was $74.99. The use I have gotten out of it in the last 11 years has to have cost the company more than if I was a paying subscriber who paid a monthly fee.
When I say “can’t afford” I literally mean it costs the company money to keep providing these services over time. I have services available to me from my “subscription” that don’t even exist in the current offering.
Hey, remember when you bought a ‘copy’ of software? And it was yours to use for as long as you like? Subscriptions are the worst.
Bought it when it was a reasonable price but switching to jellyfin anyway. Fuck late stage capitalism.
That’s called biting off your nose to spite your face.
Who needs a nose anyway.
Bruh just use jellyfin. Using it for over 2 years w/o a hiccup.
What about Emby? Or Kodi? Or DNLA streams?
Haven’t tried them. I have tested Kodi with Jellyfin Integration, which works well, as I am planning to use some old PC as an HTPC with Kodi sometime later.
Do you host it locally or in the cloud? Can you use it while traveling? /gen
Host locally and access it from outside the home via Netbird. Though not sure what gen means
/gen means genuine, it’s a tone indicator. Another one you might see is /s for sarcastic or /j for joking
What are we doing here?
idk ask the internet, I’m just trying to be helpful
It’s just strange to me that communication is breaking down so much that I need to basically explain the joke. Soon I’ll be saying “please clap.”
To be fair Poe’s law is a pretty common problem in internet communication. Obviously ambiguity of intent is pretty easily avoided with good writing but it’s also convenient for a lot of people to be able to dodge that with a few relatively standardized characters. Although I can agree in the sense that it often feels like a lazy fix for otherwise bad jokes or dialogue, too often I see something in the vein of “WE NEED TO BLOW UP ORPHANAGES!!! /j” and because there’s a tone indicator in there it somehow manages to write off the lack of actual quality.
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I have it on my n100 mini pc server in docker. I expose it to the open internet through a reverse tunnel (Pangolin) hosted on a VPS in my city. It is secured by crowdsec and geoblock whitelist mode. I can access it from anywhere in my country. If travelling abroad I will just whitelist that country. Me and my gf do watch parties on it in 4k while simultaneously my brother and sis in law watch something on it on their TV. Bandwidth is not a problem at all. The only hiccup that might come is while transcoding multiple streams. You need capable hardware for it. It hasn’t impacted me yet.
not the commenter your responding but yes with proper setup travel is no issue.
I’ve never tried to host in the cloud so I have no input on that, but locally + tailscale is very doable and pretty dead simple to setup and manage.
I would highly recommend the linuxserver.io docker image. with a modern cpu and the docker image, transcoding won’t be too much of an issue with most titles and only one or two users. my server has media only in hevc, so some clients need transcoding. my 3700k is perfectly fine with it.
if you want to expose it to a domain you gotta be a little more careful, reverse proxy + an external auth provider like authentik at minimum is what I would suggest. fail2ban and anubis are also great ideas.
Fym “borderline”??
Right?
Whats the benefit? I had an annual pass in like 2015 and got rid of it cuz the ps4 app was garbage. Fast forward to 2020 and I set a free one up cuz pandemic… I honestly don’t know why I paid in the first place.
Being upset with Plex because of what they’re doing with their prices is totally a legit gripe. Suggesting Plex is shitty is silly. It works great, it’s simple for boneheads like me, and if you paid $70 or whatever a decade or so ago, it’s been a phenomenal deal. I’m using it right now, I use it on a weekly basis at the very least, and it’s super art it and forget. I have a media library on my PC, when I add to it I just right click the taskbar icon and “update libraries,” and that’s it. It requires next to no fiddling, it runs perfectly, it finds subtitles automatically, it does the whole metadata thing automatically. It’s great, I have zero complaints.
But yeah, $700 or whatever is crazy talk. But $70 was awesome.
Suggesting Plex is shitty is silly.
I asked what the paid benefits were vs the free version. Everything you described is in the free version. Hence why I’m not sure why I ever paid in the first place. I don’t think I ever used any of the paid features.
I apologize, I didn’t understand that to be the meaning, maybe I gotta read better. I don’t have an answer. I can’t remember what prompted me to grab a lifetime pass. I have to assume there’s some benefit, and that it was obvious to me at the time.
Yea I still have a free server going and never hit a paywall.
But Jellyfin. Jellyfin. Did you know about a Jellyfin‽ why aren’t you running Jellyfin like the rest of the herd‽ /s
I’m so tired of it being recommended blindly because people don’t have to pay for it when it’s much crappier than plex (if you have the lifetime subscription).
Paying for plex pass gets you hardware transcoding (GPU), and access to Plexamp if you use it for music. Also the ability to use it remotely outside your network I think (dunno, I don’t use that feature) It’s good stuff, but nowhere near worth what they’re charging. I paid $80 for my lifetime Plex pass some years back.
Honestly, even without the $750 pricing, they’ve been consistently raising it for years now, presumably to encourage monthly subscriptions. I don’t trust them, and it’s falling into the category of “you’ll own nothing and be happy.” The other day I even read something about a user losing access to their Plex because Plex themselves didn’t renew their certificate and they had to reach out to support to sort it out. That’s… just completely fucked up. I hate that it requires an online account to access your local content. They did that years ago, and it’s led to me wanting to use it less and less.
I have a Jellyfin server as backup, and have already moved away from Plexamp to use Lyrion and Navidrome instead for music.
The only reason I still use Plex at all is because I watch a lot of foreign content and Swiftfin hasn’t yet updated to use Apple TV’s accessibility settings for captions (Plex lets you override subtitles with the Apple TV caption settings for readability and consistency). Though I saw the Jellyfin team merged the change the other day, so I expect a fix for that to come with the next major update. If that works out, I’ll be deleting Plex from my Proxmox server finally.
Bye Felicia
