A draft emergency executive order to declare a national emergency to allow President Donald Trump to take unprecedented control over voting is being circulated by anti-voting activists who said they are in coordination with the White House.
Voting rights experts, democracy advocates, and at least one state election chief said Trump doesn’t have the authority to claim such powers — and any attempt would be blatantly unconstitutional.
The draft order — which is said to be based on a conspiracy theory that China interfered with the 2020 election — would allow Trump to unilaterally ban mail-in ballots and voting machines on the basis that they are susceptible to foreign interference.
The order comes from MAGA activists who have been coordinating with the White House. One of the advocates for the order is Peter Ticktin, the attorney for Tina Peters, the former GOP Colorado county clerk who is currently serving a nine-year state prison sentence for her role in a 2021 voting system breach, in an attempt to find voter fraud based on election conspiracies.
The Elections Clause of the U.S. Constitution explicitly gives states — not the president — sole authority over elections.
This would be the end of a free USA. Real authoritarianism. The end. Fake elections from here on, just like Russia, Venezuela, etc. We are screwed if this happens. The fascists are winning.
And who the fuck is going to stop him? He’s been doing shit that’s unconstitutional this whole time. He’s going to rig the election and have a third term, and all our politicians will do is write strongly worded letters.
Like the other post, applying for UK Visa hit’s record high, so no need to fight for your country, just let them take it.
The Enabling Act
The draft order […] would allow Trump to unilaterally ban mail-in ballots and voting machines
The fucking headline even said it was illegal. It wouldn’t “allow” him to do shit.
It would be him CLAIMING he has some power that he doesn’t have. And EACH AND EVERY STATE needs to just fucking ignore it, run their elections as they are the sole arbitrators of elections according the the constitution.
It’s not even a fucking presidential election. IT DOESNT TOUCH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, and therefore EXECUTIVE orders are even more absurd.
You say this like the 100 prior absurd things that have happened shouldn’t have occurred because we have a stable, sane system with checks and balances; but we don’t. So people that are complicit, or scared, or both are complying with demands that are not technically enforceable. I could see this as one of those orders that red states would gladly comply with.
Oh, I know. I’m screaming into the wind here. Letting my frustration out at, well, everything.
If Trump successfully fixes this election…
A lot of Americans wouldn’t only tolerate Trump fixing the election, they’d support it. Celebrate it, even.
Much of the rest of America doesn’t fully appreciate the threat. Many are just oblivious, but others are complacently holding on to their faith in our legal and political institutions. They believe in our system, and they believe it will ultimately hold up against the threat of a fascist takeover. I hope they’re right, but I don’t share their conviction. I think our institutions are far more vulnerable than many of them realize. Frankly, I think they’re unwavering devotion borders on hubris.
And my concerns about the integrity of our system are not baseless. I have seen our systems tested multiple times over the past few decades, essentially my entire adult life, and I would say the resiliency of our system has been… mixed, at best.
What do you mean? We have infinite money, don’t you remember that glitch? 1970s crisis, we just printed our way out. 2000 dot-com bubble, printed our way out. 2008 housing crisis, then COVID, … guess what we did both times. We just print our way out of our problems; problem solved.
If Trump destroys us, we’ll just print little Trump Cash cards on the back of freshly synthesized plastic cutouts made from the byproduct of his glorified coal companies running on the blood, sweat, and tears of our children.
“Anti-voting activists”? You mean Nazis?
The Nazis were elected
Fascists. Not necessarily nazis. Fascists come in many flavors of assholes.
please, we prefer to call ourselves “Anti-democracy Activists” these days
Anti-voting activists<=> fascists/nazis
Young women<=> children
Alternate facts<=> lies
We HAVE to keep calling out media for spreading misinformation.
Doesn’t really matter. They have plenty of options. Here some options based on what we know already.
Influencing elections trough social media. Mercer and Bannon were succesful through facebook to make brexit a thing. Now, with the technological advancements and all the DOGE data this is very realistic.
Or going to war with Canada right before the elections.
Or, in 1 year or so, ICE ($85 billion budget) will be fully staffed. They’ll be operational to fulfill their true militia role.
They stormed the Capitol, jfc. Those goons are ICE now.
We can be sure of 1 thing. Either way, power will not be handed over.Or going to war with Canada right before the elections
Mexico. They’re stirring shit in Mexico right now. had a cartel guy killed, shut down the air space near the border for drone and strikes about a week ago, and are and running a psyop about whats really happening in the us right now.
So who intervenes when he physically tries to control the election processes in states? Who certifies the election results, JD Vance?
He can just claim any state election is fraudulent because they didn’t do what he said, reject the results in any state the gop didn’t win enough and argue the GOP reps can stay in power until an election happens the way he wants, all while claiming the gop definitely won a majority, with no proof. He will not admit to the loss of control of congress and will not leave the white house peacefully if he’s impeached.
Americans had better get ready for a violent transfer of power. MAGA will believe dems stole the election this time and they won’t sit by and let government function, Trump will still be president while all this happens and use that authority to incite insurrection against the constitution.
Who certifies the election results, JD Vance?
No. (de jure, at least, who knows what will actually happen in practice)
The law identifies the governor – or, in the case of Washington, D.C., the district’s mayor – as responsible for submitting certificates of ascertainment, unless otherwise specified by state laws or constitutions. In addition, a certificate that was revised as ordered by a state or federal court judgment before the meeting of electors supersedes all previous certificates.
The law clarifies that the vice president’s role in the counting of the electoral votes is “solely ministerial,” with no power to “determine, accept, reject, or otherwise adjudicate or resolve disputes over the proper list of electors, the validity of electors, or the votes of electors.”
Many states have the power to maintain state guards. This is a military force that cannot be federalized.
All it takes is the guardsmen or the chain of command doing what Trump says. Laws don’t matter right now. What people choose to do does.
Unless the army says no there is no mechanism for stopping them. As you said laws don’t matter. I feel they already won.
“Anti-voting activists”. How absurd
The things media outlets will come up with to not say “fascist”…
here in italy there was a referendum about increasing workers’ rights but all the right wingers siad that voitng is for communists who eat babies and that if you vote you vote you want the shadow elite governmetn to eradicate all the italian culture to replace it with a muslim califfate and remove the existencve of christianity from the history of humanity, but now that we’re about to vote for the government-supported judiciary reform that will give the governmetn direcet control over the election of the judges, all right wingers are rushing to vote
that will give the governmetn direcet control over the election of the judges
Weird, in Belgium a similar law was struck down by the constitutional court the other day. Hearing this from Italy, I can’t help but think this is being orchestrated on a higher level.
Heavily armed ICE agents to be stationed at all polling places “to prevent illegal immigrants voting”.
Calling it now.
anti-voting activists
Fascists. Call them by their name.
Funny, because anti-voting activists seems to describe a good chunk of the db0 community these days.
Then again, maybe it’s more fitting than ironic after all.
As a Constitution Loving QAnon believer who HATES Pedophiles AND Corruption I APPLAUD the President, who Raped Children with Jeffrey Epstein, taking UNCONSTITUTIONAL Control of Elections!
It really is anticlimactic.
We get an honest to god pedo cabal, and a federal powergrab, and the response from factions who dedicated entire lives to warning, as loud as they can shout, about these two exact things is…
“Meh?”
Meanwhile, it seems the world is chanting for the Clintons to burn at the stake; the opposite of what they expected?
I would be so confused if I was QAnon.
the world
I know it may feel that way, but I assure you, the rest of the world is watching the US right now like this:
This is one of those times I would support another country kidnapping a president just like our government has done…
Freedom of speech is basically not even a thing any more, the chance that someone shows up to my door for saying this is not 0 like it should be.
Its crazy, what these people are allowed to get away with and the fact that the democrats are not saying so every day as loud as they can just like these fools have done constantly in the past… says a lot about the whole situation.
Its frustrating beyond belief and it always seems to be getting worse.
Certainly THIS illegal act will be the one that makes the justice wake up, and not just another one swept under the rug because “akshually, the president cannot do crime” - as per SCOTUS
Sure. In a year.
Certainly THIS illegal act will be the one that makes the justice wake up
Or the American people.
This is my hard limit of taking up arms. IDK about you guys but I think bypassing an election to steal a third or more terms is blatant tyranny and should kick off a revolution.
Pedophiles rampant in government, the neo-sturmabteilung roaming the streets, but capturing the election will rouse the masses? Label me skeptical.
Seriously though, if this doesn’t get a lot of people up in arms, nothing will improve for generations. If people accept tyranny, they will continue to get tyranny. Simple as.
I feel like it is hard to synchronize. I want to do this but cannot solo
Do it up Minnesota style. These organizations don’t come from nowhere. Talk to your neighbors. Express these concerns to them. If they share your concerns, connect them with one another. It doesn’t have to be “organize a paramilitary force” but it does have to start with knowing who is with you in your community
