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    In the past month, Homan told reporters, 158 people have been arrested for interfering with federal law enforcement, a crime for which penalties range from one to 20 years in prison. Of those cases, he claimed, 85 have been accepted for prosecution. The rest are still pending.

    Over five a day…

    And it seems a safe assumption they’re all citizens, or else they’d have just been deported

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      Nah even the ones they’re “deporting” as I understand it most of them are being sent to the camps in the hopes that the cruel conditions with convince them to leave willingly and give up due process rights.

      On some level they still think they can only get away with actually deporting so many with zero due process before they actually face consequences. So if looks like they’re trying to be as cruel as possible in the hopes that they’ll just waive those rights and allow themselves to be deported.

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      We’re a police state. Whenever you hear Republicans or neoliberal complain about anything in the justice system is because the system isn’t draconian enough. Chuck and Jeffries are bought by the prison industrial complex.

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        Dude, we invented police. Literally. We are the original police state, which can be easily backed up by the fact that we have a higher percentage of incarcerated individuals than any other nation. And that has been true for a very long time.

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          I believe the original police was created in Britain in the late 1820’s by Robert Peel. It was another 30 years for it to be copied in the US. As a UK citizen I can only apologise although much like your government you created something much much worse. Quite the achievement based on how bad our own police are, and government.

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            The Scotland Yard or whatever they started with did not really even resemble modern policing.

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    Gee I thought Walz assured us that Homan would be more professional!

    I’m fucking sick as shit of Democrats rolling the fuck over to continue giving fascists the benefit of the doubt.

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      What he said was that holman was at least willing to talk (which is a low bar). Walz made no assurances that I am aware of. I agree with your second sentence either way though.

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    So now it’s time to use actual cameras with stout telephoto lenses and have discrete pockets in your clothes for the micro sims to be hidden in (if it looks like one os going to get caught) and also use those parabolic dish microphones to record everything from a distance and if ICE moves towards the observers, they slip away and find safety. Old school. Cameras in phones mean observers have to get too close. Change up the equipment and how you deal with these shitheads.

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        Yep… Those executed citizens were within immediate reach. Can’t be close enough for the fuckers to catch you. Always have an escape route ready.

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          My brother in christ we need cardio and guns. Wtf were you doing in history class?

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            My brother in christ

            Please, can we start using “brother in strife” instead of associating people with that blood cult?

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            Noooo guns. Guns gets the military involved. You and I will not win once that bridge is crossed. It will give Trump and the fascists an excuse to declare Martial Law and turn us into a real police state.

            While it’s romantic and fun to imagine going all Punisher on the chuds in ICE, that’s not a real end game you want to aim for.

            I WAS paying attention in History class. We’re not in the 18th century anymore, so the notion that anything will be changed with violence… is rather… well… Lemme just leave you with the thought that what can come down will crimp almost every aspect of our lives in ways you definitely will not like and it will start with the internet and phone.

            (also, do pay mind to who’s got the access to heavy gauge fully automatic firearms, and who does not.)

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              The US Military couldn’t beat the Taliban. Russia couldn’t beat the Taliban either. The biggest weapons do not always matter. Guerilla warfare works.

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                You’re dealing, in the case of the Taliban, with a people that were devoutly religious, and living in extreme conditions of hardship, poverty and depravation well before the Soviets rolled into that country. Their lives alone, made them capable of out stubborning western militaries.

                Americans by and large aren’t used to such marginal modes of living… we’re not, at all.

                Guerilla warfare won’t have any lasting power.

                Americans want their comforts, their internets, their cell phones… We are a bourgeois country and that won’t change until we go into another Great Depression… now THAT could set the revolutionary foxes into the social henhouse - but it needs to come from disastrous policies made by the people at the top, so they bear all the blame.

                That will get political winds blowing in a different direction.

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    I hope all of these observers have a speed-dial or dead-man’s switch for contacting a civil rights attorney at the very least. I know there’s been a huge amount of dollars flooding into these civil rights legal groups in the area.

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      I know there’s been a huge amount of dollars flooding into these civil rights legal groups in the area.

      Unfortunately it’s barely keeping up and there’s more abductions and that means more research and investigation to make the correct court filings.

      If you’re in MN and you’re going to a protest

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    It is well past time for EVERYONE to start carrying a weapon. Stab or shoot those motherfuckers if they’re gonna try to take you.

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      Do ANYTHING you can to not get taken to the second location.

      This is the number one thing to do when dealing with any abductors

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        Arm, your family too.

        There are more of us than them. We outnumber them by the thousands. They get off by feeling more powerful.

        And you’re empowering them. Stop it.

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          lol! What type of gun should I be buying for my elementary age daughters? Should I stick with 9mm or just go with the FN5.7? Maybe just a baby knife? They’d probably be better with knives, but I worry about reach.

          Idk why you’re sitting around typing when there’s killin’ to be had! Lead the charge bub!

          Edit: Whew, with all this big talk encouraging violence I guess we’ll see you in the news tomorrow! How many of you have ever fired a shot in anger? In war? Talking of what others need to do. Pathetic.
          I’m not even going to meet you halfway and give sympathetic talking points. Nut up or shut up.

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            Start with a BB gun, then a .22, then up. A little pocket knife to stick strangers that try to grab them might be a good idea too, you’re acting like commenters are being histrionic but these nazis are literally kidnapping and murdering people in broad daylight

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            Are you so coddled by modern society that you view a child defending themselves against violent abductors as an absurd thing?

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            I don’t condone your kids needing to shoot someone, but there’s nothing wrong teaching them about firearms as early as possible. I was out shooting with my dad when I was around 6 years old… it all depends on the maturity levels.

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        Wars have casualties, it’s sad and unfortunate but I see a lot more blood being spilled before this is over.

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        Fuckin’ rise the fuck up and actually resist this shit. No protests. If they shoot, shoot ‘em back!

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    Pravda news huh? Could we just simplify that to tankies-r-us?

    Edit: based on the response, I think that’s a yes