I’m starting to wonder what the real benefit even is anymore. Between the technofeudal landscape we live in, where billionaires own the means of communication, data is constantly mined for profit, and surveillance is baked into every layer, it feels like I’m standing at the beach, using my bare hands to push back an endless tide.
Even when I take the so‑called “liberated” path through Linux, self‑hosting, and privacy tools, it often feels futile. The web itself is poisoned. Browsers are turning into tracking engines. Sites rely on manipulation and dark patterns. Social media is full of misinformation and ragebait.
Even open-source projects are being pulled under corporate influence (ex: Firefox adoption of AI).
It feels exhausting to route around a web that’s already been captured.
So I’m asking myself: what’s the point? Why not just step away?
Why not trade the illusion of digital control for actual peace, get a dumb phone, a CD player, and check out books, movies, music, and games from the library as my entertainment?
Does anyone else feel this way? Have you found ways to reconnect with technology?
You do realize that a CD player, books, music, games etc are technology too right? Yes modern corpo tech is bullshit but that is not the fault of technology and there are alternatives to everything. Its a question of convenience. Do you want to be spoon fed with a pretty solution that gets marketed to everyone? Well you gonna have a bad time in the long run…
I thought the same thing, to be clear. But it’s also clear that OP referred to neo-corpo-shit tech that’s prevalent today.
I’ve gone the other way with it. I feel galvanised to try and help the laymen break free from our digital prisons; attempting to migrate people to decentralisation as a concept; as in my eyes it’s the only way we’ll ever move out from under this technocratic structure we find ourselves stuck in.
It’s one hell of an uphill battle, but the hardest part (convincing others to try something new) is becoming easier just thanks to the rampant enshittification in every product. My driving force for most of it has been the desire to see my country break free from reliance on American tech; which if you know anything about the UK; it’s an incredibly pie in the sky ambition… But I remain hopeful.
My advice would be to learn (if you’re not already familiar ofc) containerisation as a concept and spin up services that offer real alternatives to what people rely so heavily upon.
The only way the world can escape the likes of Zuckerberg and Musk, is if people like me and you show them how to implement an alternative.
I’m the same. I was telling a friend the other day that despite how grim modern tech often is, I feel hopeful when I see how many people are taking solace in making cool things for them and their community, as well as doing valuable infrastructure work to try and make tech a useful tool for liberation.
A good example of the latter thing is this encrypted messaging app that works via a Bluetooth mesh network, providing a way for Palestinians to stay in contact even when the internet and cell service are turned off. The UK is closer than I would like to needing to use tech like this, so it bolsters my resolve to be able of such efforts to resist.
I don’t know if I’ve checked out of technology, I just only use the stuff I want. YouTube can be insidious for me but yeah unless it’s for work I just do some hobby Linux or programming stuff. I prefer e-readers, I access lemmy over the web instead of an app, I mostly use my phone for it’s GPS and communication.
But I get a lot more enjoyment from hanging out with my friends doing outside stuff. Why not get involved in the maker space, do electronics and stuff.
IT Professional here.
I’ve been ready to burn it all down for about 20 years now.
Whenever I got called for an issue, I would tell the user “eh, just throw it out the window,” and then they would laugh like I was joking or something
Is it a printer? Hold on. I will come help you throw it out the window.
Cool, Maintenance said we can use their appliance dolly if we let em watch
Honestly, you should just step away. Tech is best when it’s viewed as a tool to achieve your goals, not as a goal in its own right.
Reminds me of a joke I heard a few years ago.
The “Tech Enthusiast” : My whole home is rigged up with smart systems! I can control my AC and my lights from my phone from 1,000 miles away!
The Tech Engineer : the most recent piece of equipment I own in my home is a printer from 2003 and I keep a loaded gun next to it in case it makes a noise I don’t recognize.
joke
Ahaha, yep, totally a joke.
Im… Getting there. For now I built my own cloud at home… But browsers themselves are becoming a problem.
billionaires own the means of communication
Billionaires own PieFed/Lemmy? Damn. Didn’t know that.
Ohhh you mean they own the shitty parts of the Internet? Yeah it’s simple, don’t use them.
I understand your point hence my upvote. I don’t know about you, but I mainly use Lemmy on a phone made by Apple. Many of my friends use Google phones and Microsoft computers.
most people can still only be contacted through facebook messenger and whatsapp
Well giving up on tech certainly won’t help with keeping in contact with those people.
Yeah im currently on a sabbatical and I dont think I will go back to working in tech.
But ive been working with it for 25 years in different roles. Im just tired of seeing the same thing being reinvented again and again under different names.
I dont feel excited about micro services or AI or blockchain. Its just more and more complexity all the time and its exhausting, not interesting.
Also the culture has changed. It used to be a fun profession for figuring out how to write the code to solve something. Now its telling agents what to do, and pressure to always work hard.
It wasnt like that before. The company needed your skills and they couldnt push or replace people very easily. Which meant they treated you well and didnt stress you.
It depends on your level of expertise. It is still the case for a good senior technician. They unfortunately don’t grow on trees and the better the guy the more he’s dancing on the nose of his working environment.
I have to admit I gave up a bit on resisting.
When I quickly want to look something up and are hit with “Allow all tracking or manage your choices?” I click allow, cause it happens 20x a day and I’m done with this shit.
I use the default apps on my phone cause I don’t have the whole day to customize after switching phones anymore.
I uninstalled NoScript cause it made the internet unusable.When I quickly want to look something up and are hit with “Allow all tracking or manage your choices?” I click allow, cause it happens 20x a day and I’m done with this shit.
I rarely see that. I use ublock origin for years now, on PC and phone, with the social and annoyance filters turned on.
I use the default apps on my phone cause I don’t have the whole day to customize after switching phones anymore.
I don’t switch phones that often, and I like to know that I can trust my phone.
I uninstalled NoScript cause it made the internet unusable.
yeah noscript is a bit hardcore. ublock origin is basically set and forget. but it won’t work on chrome, there it only has a lite version that can only do ad blocking, to some extent. if you want to block trackers effectively that only works on firefox.
I will not touch on the NoScript topic, it works fine for me, but I could recommend you blocking Cookie Banners in uBlock Origin. That way you don’t have to click anything.
Im stuck (deliberately) about the year 2010 ish tech wise… People need automation to turn on a light switch, i long ago figured out how to open my curtains sans alexa as well.
Alas everything enshitifies.
Does anyone else feel this way? Have you found ways to reconnect with technology?
I’ve been stepping away slowly for a few years now. Back to low-tech and analog… and back to privacy/ownership/control. I don’t plan on giving up on tech at all, I just put it back at its place which is one tool in my toolbox that contains many more. One tool that, I quickly realized, was not even the most essential (pen and paper would be, for me).
I went much of my life with no tech. No cell, no computer, even then slow adoption. I think it has been a net negatibe, for me, and society. Now that capital has bought out all functions, created shittrusts on any remaining competition, and all maximized revenue. With a captured government, including a pet judiciary and prosecutors, there is no check on them left. No government, no consumers unions, no competition.
I agree completely. And I’ve worked in tech for 20+ years.
I find myself doing more and more specifically to get away from using the internet. It has totally become a tracking service for corporations and marketing. It is frustrating, because it was paid for by the people to disseminate information. Yes, you can still get good information (like Wikipedia), but what are the tradeoffs now? Most of what I see are ads or clickbait or just outright AI slop. I’m so tired of the constant barrage of bullshit. Even ad blockers can only do so much.
So for me is isn’t about getting away from tech, per se, but it is about getting away from the internet. In practice this restricts a lot, though some things are fine (I don’t mind playing games, for example, even though I’m technically using the internet).
But definitely: I’ll play local music files or put on a record instead of streaming anything. I’ll read a book. I’ll play a (single player) game. But don’t make me go online.
And before you say it: yes, I also restrict my Lemmy usage.
i self-host everything i reasonably can and im having the time of my life with it (i am special)
im having the time of my life with it (i am special)
This is where I’m at. The process is fun for me, though. Setting everything up, maintaining it, seeing other people using the things I’ve put my time and effort into. Feels good.
Not for everyone, though, and I think that’s where division of labor comes in. We all have the weeds we wanna be in. Where someone sees weeds, I might see dandelions. Where I see weeds, someone else might see white clover, and we all work together to make each other’s lives easier
Having the time of my life setting things up. Not having the time of my life maintaining it. Fucking hating on securing my server.
Not completely, but more and more I find peace of mind in analog and offline spaces. Physical books feel better than e-books, a real bike is more fun than a Peleton (cheaper too), and cooking my own food is better than GrubHub.
I have an educational background in IT, but I’ve worked as a mechanic for most of my adult life. I’m a tool using primate. Tech is a tool. If a new tool improves on the old and makes life easier, I use it. If it doesn’t, it’s not worth having around. When your job is fixing things, “ain’t broke, don’t fix it” makes a lot of sense.
I’m not going to bend over backwards for tech that I don’t need just because a rich CEO tells me it’s revolutionary. I can flip a light switch, lock my doors, make a grocery list without the help of an AI fridge, and write my own emails.
The problem comes when there are no more non-AI fridges around and people start mocking you doe building your own dumb fridge, you weirdo.
That’s usually how it goes.
The trouble I’d have to go through to build a dumb fridge would bother me more than people talking shit about me building or owning one.
People can talk shit all they want, don’t mean I’m gonna listen.
