Please don’t tell me “see a therapist” I know that already.
Laziness dosnt exist, its just how we shame people into doing what we want and everyone is doing there best.
The first part is a new concept to me. Theres a book on it and the concept is pretty interesting. The latter too but I still get hung up on that one.
Both have helped me to understand I have my limits and that’s ok.
But yeah. What is lazy. I mean most people don’t want to live in <insert whatever ia being called lazy> situation. They literally can’t get out of the rut for otjer reasons, just “wanting to” or “being productive” dosnt fix the underlying cause.
Depression is a luxury of human social bonds, modern safety, and excess. Without that, yes, you get too lazy or too low “value” and Darwin gets you. But that’s pretty archaic thinking that doesn’t really apply to modern society.
Agree with her. Then say all these old and retired people aren’t contributing to the economy anymore and don’t deserve to live. Then you ask her how old she is, for effect.
And specifically ask her, at which age or milestone does she think it’s not worth to keep her alive anymore? You can suggest the point where she retires.
And if she says something like “well old people did contribute so much in the past”, just say that so did depressed people and often they are depressed because of giving more than they had.
Or maybe agree with her and drive it to the ultimate conclusion: people with disabilities will need to be euthanized if they can’t contribute. Working accident and you lost a limb or two? Euthanization.
Remind her to update her living will to let her die in case of an accident causing severe disabilities.
Other option, Louis Theroux that shit
Just don’t react, but keep asking “why” type questions, again, just acting interested, like you think they could convince you if they’re just explain it better.
Make them try to argue their own way into a hole until they’re either so pissed off they drop it, or they start to disbelief their own thoughts.
It works cause you’re not arguing against stupid that way, you’re making stupid argue against itself, and nothing beats that
“Guess I’ll kill myself”
I don’t think she takes my suicide threats seriously, she think I’m joking. That I’m “seeking attention”
Jesus fucking christ mom. I would ask her to evaluate her contributions to society and really dissect if she ever did anything meaningful in the past or present. Then usher her towards the nearest woodchopper and let her know its time to serve a real purpose.
my rebuttal would be to cut her entirely out of my life.
What “value” does she purport to bring? Just out of curiosity.
“ok boomer”
There is no teaching those who have no interest in learning.
Your mom’s a cunt.
Woah, hey now. I doubt she’s got the depth or the warmth to be called that!
Ask her what “value” is.
What value do young children or the ill have? Should we kill them? What kind of backwards anti-human society is that. Instead of just looking at someone’s value, we should look for the potential in each other and help each other get to our full potential.
Try the classic (fully untrue, but who cares, it illustrates the point) quote about Einstein
Einstein failed his classes in high school, but by adulthood he was one of the smartest people in the world. People develop at different paces
Why rebut it? You aren’t going to use logic to argue someone out of a position they didn’t use logic to get to. Especially someone that probably thinks you owe them your existence. You’ll never win that argument, don’t ask me how I know.
If you’re still living at home, make it priority to determine a way to make it on your own ASAP, or be prepared to eat shit until you figure that out.
Ask your mother what societal value retirees provide, and then ask her where you should dump her once she retires.
