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    Gen X - who, let’s face it, wrote most of this stuff - gets forgotten again.

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      That’s cool. We’re used to being forgotten and this way nobody will ask us to fix their computer.

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      Gen X is the Aslan lion meme: “Do not cite the deep computer repair magic to me, Millennial. I was there when it was written.”

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      As one of those Gen-X that actually helped create the dumpster fire we call the modern Internet, I have come to realize that we fall into two camps. You either look young enough to be classified as a Millennial (my wife) or you look old enough to immediately be thrown in the Boomer bucket (me)…which is really unfair because no other generation has hated and fought the fucking Boomers longer than us.

      I’d love to show some GenZ photos of Matt Damon, Bem Affleck, Cillian Murphy, etc. and ask them what generation they think they are.

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        The struggle is, we all live long enough to be the next boomers. Maybe in 10 years it is: “OK, Gen-X”

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          I think what’s happening is Millenials are starting to get the “OK Boomer”.

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            Yep it’s just a phrase now and people don’t know what boomer was.

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          Before I deleted Facebook entirely, I briefly flirted with a Facebook group of Aussie gen xers for a bit of nostalgia, and I had to quit after only a few weeks because the ‘back in my day’ crowd became too insufferable. It’s already happened.

          And while gen X definitely were instrumental in creating much of modern tech, most of them are still pretty hopeless at it. Watching some of my similarly aged colleagues trying to use a computer is an exercise in frustration.

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      By that logic, Bill Gates and Steve Wozniak were Boomers so Boomers all know how to fix computers.

      Let’s face it, “generational” assumptions are all too coarse to be valuable - and are probably just another way to separate and divide us all so we stop thinking about how to take down the ruling classes.

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        My dad is close to 80. He’s been PC savvy since the super early 1980s and he still is, although he is stuck in Windows because he’s a monster in the astrophotography world and most of his software isn’t supported in Linux etc. I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

        I taught my younger brother how to program in basic and pascal in the 80s. He’s now a super successful programmer. I’m pretty poor but I like to build fix and upgrade people’s computers as a hobby. I am gen x.

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          I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

          Bullshit. If her dad was one of the founders of the Internet, you’d know that the Al Gore meme was a Republican smear campaign.

          I worked for Vint Cerf in the early 90’s. This is what he wrote to defend Al Gore against the Republican smear campaign:

          https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt

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            Al Gore didn’t need a smear campaign for his nonsense. I was there too, we were laughing our asses off at the shit he said.

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              “We don’t think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he “invented” the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore’s initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening.”

              • Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn
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            He was a hell of a lot more of a founder than Al Gore was. Gore was a marketer at best.

            Edit: you all are downvoting without even knowing who he was. Drink piss assholes.

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              Al Gore never claimed to have been the founder of the Internet. Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn both defended Al Gore against idiots like you.

              Rush Limbaugh was on the radio daily in the early 90’s calling Al Gore’s information superhighway a Democratic Boondoggle. Republicans were fighting to kill the Internet. Al Gore was fighting since the 80’s to fund it so it could grow into something bigger than a research network.

              If Eisenhower can get credit for the US Interstate Highway system despite not pouring a drop of concrete, then Al Gore gets credit for the Internet.

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                  I worked for Vint Cerf. I later started my own ISP. I know the history of the Internet because I lived it.

                  I quoted Vint Cerf. What do you have to support your claim?

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                    Barry Leiner. He didn’t like me dating his daughter because I wasn’t Jewish. But man did he love his Celica. It wasn’t fancy, but it was to him.

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      no, they’re just choosing to not fuck with this shit because they’ve had enough

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      I don’t know about you, but I quit doing that soul crushing work as soon as I could something I really loved.

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      Ahhh I see. So what you’re saying is that Gen X is actually the root of our problems? Boomers were just another symptom that needed a GUI.

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      Eh. Genx understood how to work a VCR and deal with the rat’s nest of cables behind the TV

      Computers are millennials

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        Older Millenial here. It was definitely GenX that paved the way for the computer world I learned, and it was mostly GenX who wrote the books and taught the lessons (often informal) that brought us what knowledge we have, at least in the beginning. Plus a small selection of exceptional individuals from older generations, including, dare I say it,… the baby boomers.

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          There is a big difference between having the people who invented something and being the people who families (and companies…) depend on to keep them running. This being about the latter.

          Or, at least, in my family, we tended to not tell the engineers at Ampex to get their butts downstairs because dad didn’t understand why the color was off on the football game he recorded last night

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          Older millennial here, too. This is absolutely correct. (Btw we are called xenials 1981–86)

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        Utter BS. I’m on the old end of Gen X and I’m still building PCs for people and troubleshooting their shit when it breaks. I have yet to meet a much younger person who can do it as well.

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          Gen X seem to be either computer people or totally unaware. Millennials seem to be generally much less knowledgeable than the former and much more knowledgeable than the latter. Obviously there are millennials who are computer people, but my conception of them is more people who got computer science degrees than the person who lives in a shack in the woods and builds his own robots. Boomer computer people are even more formidable.

          I’m not saying that’s true, but it’s the stereotype I have in my head.

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          We were the first (of non-computer types) to adopt the web. We rode the AOL Instant Messenger train. What are you talking about.

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            AOL instant messenger was late to the party. ICQ started the instant messaging fad… that little “uh oh” notification sound is permanently burned into my brain.

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            Most millenials I deal with don’t know how anything works. They know apps and swiping screens. They are computer competent, knowing how to use them. Like knowing how to drive a car doesn’t mean you are a mechanic. They frequently know how do basic fixes like rebooting or reinstalling but less frequently have any true troubleshooting understanding. I don’t claim all millenials are like that, but broad stroke its not uncommon. I’d never say the generation as a whole is THE technical one though. I know more Gen Z that are technical by far, but that seems more matching Gen X to me. They either know technology or don’t. Nothing in between.

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          People can be exceptions to the norm. Most GenX we all interact with are as hopeless as the boomers.

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        When I joined the company maintaining Unix, I was one of the younger ones. It’s older X who knows how it’s all built; because they did it.

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        Very late Gen X or early millenial no. We came through VCR DVD it was a wonderful change. Also Torvalds would be Gen X.