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Honestly even in the late 90s it was going down. I don’t think DEC or Amiga or something else cool you can remember have anything to do with the Silicon Valley.
After the original Intel and other hardware things fame, it’s a place that mostly collected parasites living off the dotcom bubble and then profanation and oligopolization of tech. The least important part - the companies making suddenly popular user applications and websites. Their main effect was negative - they reduced diversity, competition and redundancy in that.
In any case … “AI startups”.
I’m so morally prepared to dance when that bubble finally bursts. A lot of today’s rattling of sabers depends on the promise of AI workers, AI drones, AI everything so that a crime would involve only a few real humans.
I thought “996” meant 9 hours on Monday, 9 hours on Tuesday, 6 hours on Wednesday, then a 4-day weekend.
That sounds pretty sweet.
I kept pushing my previous employer for a midnight-8pm Saturday, and a 4AM-midnight Sunday shift, but couldn’t get them to approve it. 40 hours a week, 5-days off.
Couldn’t get them to approve it.
Kobe Bryant dedicated all his waking hours to basketball, and I don’t think there’s a lot of people saying that Kobe Bryant shouldn’t have worked as hard as he did.
Yeah, but he was working to achieve something for himself and not to make some parasite richer.
why are they working so much, they don’t do anything
People are stupid, they have whole nature around them, but they are killing it to create computers and escape the planet.
That’s sad.What’s really sad about it is that most of the shit they believe is complete sci-fi bullshit and they won’t build a super-intelligence nor escape the planet no matter how much of their finite time they pump into these futile efforts.
Embracing? This is been the reality for many startups for a long time. Same with many game devs and animation studios too. Many technical jobs grind their staff despite being the most profitable industries. It is almost like the more money you make, the more you abuse your staff.
Silicon Valley Workforces Embracing Controversial ‘Kill The Asshole CEOs’ Strategy
I avoided this issue by embracing the completely non-controversial “become a contractor” work schedule. When you’re a temp they specifically want you NOT to work overtime without prior authorization - because they have to pay for it. And as a software dev I was always treated identically with employees, except for a few special things like some company meetings and offsite events - which I didn’t want to attend anyway. And I got paid almost twice as much hourly than I would as an employee. Sure, I had to buy my own health insurance and didn’t get paid time off, but when you double your salary those are non-issues. But what about job security? LOL what about layoffs? My job security was that there are always contract jobs everywhere.
The Americans and their piss poor labor laws, They like working beyond the point of diminishing return.
Good, keep those freaks away from the rest of us.
I’ll agree to it, but best I can do is 2 hours a day dawg
Oh, does that make Silicon Valley Already Existing Socialism now? Much heirarchy smashing, very worker’s rights, wow
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Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?
Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.
Fuck off.
Sign up to that shit and you are part of the problem. Fuck that.
People making 400k… Sure kinda makes sense for a few years but they want to every 150k worker to do the same and thats what this shill slop is about
Every time I’m on Lemmy someone scoffs at many times the most I’ve ever made in a year. I make about 30-35k a year. 😂
Uh… Just saying… you (or others reading) need to think in much bigger numbers for that extreme of a schedule… Entry level devs at FANG make around that amount of money… and we didn’t work nearly that many hours at the office…
Entry level makes 400k?
Total package including signing bonus stock
More like $200k in total comp (but I suppose if the stock rockets like 5x after you’re hired, it can end up being $400k). Senior positions can make > $400k/yr in total comp. Some companies have back-loaded vesting schedules so they can get rid of you before the majority of your options vest though.
I would like to see the data set where you pulled this anecdote from. This starting number for annual comp is not supported by any publicly available data for entry level in any meaningful quantity.
Levels.fyi
For the absolute bottom rung, not exactly 400k, but around there. Also depends on the city and team.
The main point is that if you’re gonna work a 996, you better be making at least $1M/year or more (honestly probably more, I tend to undershoot salaries) for it to be worth it. Otherwise, just get a normal FANG job if you only want to make $400k (lower end for FANG).
Can you post a link this 400k entry level job?
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for anything remotely knowledge work, especially over a long period.
Meanwhile smarter companies are going to a 4 day work week. https://www.investopedia.com/four-daywork-week-study-success-11777896
It honestly blows my mind how these “leaders” get paid billions of dollars to run their companies into the ground because they have no fucking clue how real humans operate.
Nothing to do with productivity. It’s all about small dick energy CEOs wanting to validate and underline their self-perceived superior status. “How dare the little people work as little time as me?”
Yeah they’re not going for productivity, they’re an AI company. They just want the appearance of it to juice up their valuation or to stroke an executive’s ego.
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for
anythingremotely knowledgework, especially over a long period.How an MBA read this.
