Gives me hope that the Ukrainian people are starting to see through the empire’s lies

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    6 days ago

    Gives me hope that the Ukrainian people are starting to see through the empire’s lies

    What on earth are you talking about???

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      Usa, it’s the empire. It couped ukraine’s government in 2014 and replaced them with nuland’s handpicked compradors

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      The Ukraine government proper was overthrown by the US empire in 2014 for the crime of being friendly with Russia (among other reasons) and then the empire propped up a Nazi regime that spreads Russo-phobia among its populace

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          The maidan coup is a straight up fact. Only sounds wild to you because you’re so deep in a propaganda bubble that you’re hearing it for the first time through a forum comment 11 years late.

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            So I actually took the time to read those articles and watch the video. Now I’m not well informed on past Ukrainian politics, but none of them talk of Zelensky. Which I think was elected democratically and not put in power via a coup.

            And honestly, if I had to pick between a pro-Russian and a pro-US government in that area of the world, I’d pick a pro US one for sure. It’s the least worst choice.

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              Yes, Zelensky was democratically elected on a platform of peace & reconciliation. Unfortunately he wasn’t able to deliver on those promises, because as soon as he got into office, the fascists made it clear that they’d kill him if he did deliver, and the pressure they put on him to get what they want continues.

              Zelensky was in no way qualified for the job. He was a comedian who played the president on TV. It was a wildly popular show. It’s like if Martin Sheen ran for president after The West Wing. He was basically groomed & funded by a Ukrainian oligarch to play a TV president and then run for president. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt nation in Europe.

              His presidential term ended over a year ago, and the longer the election is postponed, the less legitimate he will appear.

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                I’m sorry but all of that is a big ass load of bullshit. No matter how you try to sugarcoat it.

                First you talk about a coup, then you say it isn’t. Then you attack Zelensky because he was an actor, completely disregarding what he’s been able to do with the difficult situation he’s in. Arnold Schwarzenegger was also an actor but was a great politician and was a great governor for California as far as Republicans go. So that’s not a good reason to discredit someone. In fact, anybody can go into politics and become great.

                His presidential term may have ended a year ago, but how the fuck do you conduct an election when a chunk of your country is under foreign occupation? There are usually measures in place in constitutions for times of war, and guess what? THEY’RE AT WAR!

                I tried to keep an open mind about this and your article and watched your videos, but you’re over the edge. You’re irrational. I’m not gonna have this argument anymore. I’m done.

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            Nice sources commie but have you considered that I can’t hear you and Putler is a poopyhead and you probably want to kiss him on the mouth?

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        Of course! We forgot that the only correct policy towards Banderite Nazi sympathizers is appeasement

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        Friend you just need to break free of the west propaganda machine and you will begin to see the truth