• undeadotter@sopuli.xyz
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    4 hours ago

    The experiences trans men and women have with misogyny will never not be fascinating to me. Like, for the first time ever we have this huge sample size of people who have experienced how their gender presentation affects how people interact with them, giving tangible proof of misogyny in action. And it can’t just be swept aside with ‘MaYbE tHe wOmEn JuSt miSuNDerStOoD’ or ‘mAYbe tHe mAN diDN’t MeAn iT LiKE tHaT’. I mean idiots will still make idiot arguments but at least it chips away at them a little bit.

    • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 hours ago

      I told one of my friends that I’m being looked at differently in crowds now, and he just said “no you’re imagining it”.

      Many people just do not believe what trans people tell them. At all.

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      Hello it’s me a trans woman. I knew before transition about some of it but never really understood. When I was masc I didn’t realize how much of it was basically hidden in plain sight because of how I learned to socialize. After transitioning though omg it’s everywhere. I’m in Seattle right now where I don’t have to try too hard to pass and still get treated at least base line okay. Even then I still use my masc voice more than my femme voice because people take me more seriously when I do. Like there’s a cultural acceptance of trans people here but if I behave more masc I get the privilege of being “one of the boys” even if I’m visually in full femme mode. It’s all so weird

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      3 hours ago

      Religon is probably what initially does this to people’s brains

      Indoctrinating children into religious systems of arbitrary hierarchy gives little boys god complexes and makes little girls into property.

      • ReputedlyDeplorable@sh.itjust.works
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        Oh my goodness yes! Not to mention the whole if you don’t dress “modestly” it’s your fault if you get unwanted attention thing. It’s a grooming ground.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        2 hours ago

        Depends on where you are from, but the sort of thinking that gets people into religion gets people into misogyny even without religion in my experience.