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      I’m Jewish. I’m not religious. I’ve studied a fair amount about Jewish, Abrahamic, and Judeo-Christian history, scripture, and culture. I am by no means an expert, but I’ve forgotten more about these religions than most people ever bother to learn.

      Armed with this knowledge, I’m ready to make an assessment:

      • P!NK is a bad Jew.
      • Any pro-genocide Jew is a bad Jew.
      • Any Jew who calls people antisemitic for criticizing military actions is a bad Jew.
      • Any Jew who compares humans to animals and uses xenophobia to justify marginalization is a bad human.
      • Any Jew who uses comparisons to animals as justification for extermination is a bad person.
      • Any Jew who condemns children instead of reaching out to them is a bad person and is not paying attention.
      • Any Jew who celebrates the extermination of entire families, bystanders, and civilians needs to examine their entire life while literally eating a brick.
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          That’s probably true, but there are no scriptures regulating how to be a person that I can use to substantiate that claim. Whereas I can point directly to where God yelled at the Jewish slaves for singing and dancing after God forced himself to drown all those Egyptian aggressors¹.

          ¹ ^citation needs citation^

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        I hate that criticism of Israeli foreign or domestic policies has been equated with a criticism of judeusm and Jewish people as a whole.

        There are definitely Jewish people in Israel who disagree with their governments actions. Same as every country.

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          My family sure isn’t in that group and I’m so fucking pissed at them. We lost dozens of family members in the Holocaust, passed down our stories for, like, 2 generations, and then said “fuck it, the real problem was that we didn’t get to be the Nazis.”

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        Another one for the list:

        Any jew who forgets that they’re not the only semitic pepple and cries antisemitism for themselves but not the Palestinians is a bad jew.

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          I did as I began to editorialize a bit more, but in just examining “what does Judaism say makes a good Jew,” there are enough relatively black or white assessments that a good/bad value can be assigned. My opinions on whether or not someone is a good person is probably less hurtful to Nazionists than “your scriptures around which you’ve built your identity say that you’re doing it wrong, and anecdotally, God hates you.”

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              I dunno, I once heard an old congregant at my mom’s synagogue say, “maybe it’s time we admit that Hitler had a few good ideas” referencing rumors that Palestine was going to be turned into a concentration camp.

              If you’re a gentile, though, maybe try a phrase more like, “the Torah is full of tragedies for people who say stupid shit like that.”

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      And please don’t talk to me like I’ve never stood up for my beliefs when it was unpopular. In the middle of the Gulf War in 2006 I put out a song called “Dear Mr. President” and sang it every night on tour while my country was in a war I didn’t support,

      And now I’m standing up for my own people,

      Translation: “my country” = America, “my own people” = genocidal Zionists. Great take. I’m sure all the dead women and children in Palestine would be so proud of you.

      For real, how does everyone in the media bother to feign such cognitive dissonance all the time? When someone says they’re against the war in Iran, does that mean they want to kill all Americans?

      Who falls for this shit? Zionists need to find something better than playing the victim card 24/7.

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        At some stage they really do start to think the world revolves around them.

        Double fuckup because she has essentially equated Jews with Zionists and crybabies.

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        when it was unpopular

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t pinks exact brand that she was edgy and counterculture? And didn’t Eminem get quite a lot of success with Mosh and White America? If so I don’t quite see how courageous she was, standing up against Bush

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            That was truly an incredible moment in history. One of the first times that I noticed cracks in the facade of “conservative values.”

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              I remember thinking it mostly showed how sexist country fans can be. No one said shit when Johnny Cash was openly against the Vietnam War…

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                Public approval for the Vietnam War was at 34% in 1971, when Singing in Viet Nam Talking Blues released.

                Public approval for the Iraq War hit a high of of 80% one month after the Dixie Chicks’ comments, so I think it’s a safe assumption that it was in the high 70s when they spoke out.

                Had they waited until it was politically convenient to speak out, they probably wouldn’t have had the same level of backlash, but they had more spine than that.

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      I’m kind of with you in that pink’s positions off but I can’t quite put my finger in why it’s off brand. It definitely feels off brand but I honestly can’t articulate it.