• angrystego@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 hours ago

    People have a muscle mass regulating hormone that prevents us from developing huge muscles easily.

    Also gorillas don’t eat bananas in the wild, true banana species all come from Asia. The closest they could get is Ensete ventricosum.

      • mirshafie@europe.pub
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 hours ago

        We all get our protein from gut bacteria, or at least thanks to gut bacteria. In nutrition, “protein” refers to the collection of the proteins (amino-acid chain macromolecules) that we can digest. The rest of the proteins (the proteins we can not digest) are called “fiber” in nutrition.

        • ryannathans@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          3 hours ago

          Foregut fermenters turn all of protein ingested, in addition to ingested nitrogen like urea, into base blocks like ammonia and then back into bacterial proteins that have much better amino acids. They are creating the amino acids they need, roughly in the quantities needed. In humans this does not happen in any meaningful way - we must eat the amino acids we need.

  • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Other comments are about how gorillas have guts adapted for digesting lots of vegetation. And that’s true. But at its core, it’s just that gorillas actually do eat a ton of protein.

    They eat like 30 kg of food per day for 5000 calories, about 25% of which is from protein. That’s more than 300 grams of protein per day.

    Nothing they eat is super calorie dense, but the lack of density also means they need to eat all day. And as it turns out, the leaves they eat tend to be pretty high in protein.

    • anon_8675309@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 hour ago

      Weird that every time you see a gorilla though, he’s just sitting there looking like a jacked freaking gorilla, not doing a dang thing.

    • Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 hours ago

      Do you realize how much of my day would be spent eating and shitting in order to meet my macronutrient targets by consuming broccoli? I’d just be sitting around all day like some kind of gorilla.

    • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      4 hours ago

      That’s kind of fascinating - though it’s only about 1/10th of the amount by weight - so something like 75g of protein would need ~300g of Steak or ~3kg of Broccoli (about 10 full heads of Broccoli).

      For plant based proteins, you’re probably better off with beans.

    • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      9 hours ago

      That we, as homo sapiens, will never access because we do not have the gut microbiome necessary to break down and use.

      • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        edit-2
        7 hours ago

        No, I’m literally talking about the bioavailable protein for you, a human.

        Don’t forget that Homo sapiens evolved as fructivorous apes eating stuff like broccoli and our omnivorous diet is a recent development. (The bacteria-dependent digestion you mentioned is for the cellulose in grass, not protein.)

      • 4am@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 hours ago

        Not to mention the fiber must be off the charts. Any fat’s not sticking around long enough to be absorbed.

      • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        4 hours ago

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34225517

        But for a healthy person, “it would be impossible to overdose on bananas,” says Collins. "You would probably need around 400 bananas a day to build up the kind of potassium levels that would cause your heart to stop beating… Bananas are not dangerous - and in fact they are, and always have been, very good for you."

        Adults should consume about 3,500mg of potassium per day, according to the UK’s National Health Service. The average banana, weighing 125g, contains 450mg of potassium, meaning a healthy person can consume at least seven-and-half bananas before reaching the recommended level.

        There are some people who should steer clear of foods that are high in potassium though, warns Collins - those with kidney disease.

        “These patients have a very low kidney function which can potentially see a build-up of harmful potassium levels in their blood stream because they can’t get rid of the mineral when they pass urine,” she says. “So in theory it is possible for someone with kidney disease to die of a high blood potassium level if they decided to consume lots of different food types rich in the mineral.”

        She once had a patient on dialysis who had a heart attack after eating too many tomatoes - another fruit rich in potassium. His kidneys had already stopped working so he was unable to get rid of the excess.

  • imadethis@fedinsfw.app
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    10 hours ago

    You ever see the gut of a gorilla? They have much better mechanisms and microbiota to get all their nutrients from plants than we could dream of.

    Plus they build muscle by all the other things people mention, like genetics and weight lifting (their own mass).