Figures are source of dispute as US defense department days ago reduced record of troops killed and wounded

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    3 days ago

    I guess I forgot to consult my abacus.

    This isn’t a game. We don’t have to pick a side. The Iranian government is an oppressive regime that murders homosexuals, imprisons journalists, and represses women. Their citizens live under absolute censorship and face brutal, violent repression for dissent. We’re meant to cheer for that now… because Epstein? Cover up their crimes? Pretend they’re fighting for justice?

    Whether it’s an immoral war of choice or people escaped justice for crimes associated with Epstein, why would we let it turn us into shittier people? Iran are not good guys.

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      2 days ago

      The oppressive “regime” is irrelevant here. They are only being attacked because the real hostile state in the region: Israel wants us to because their blackmail operation got caught and they want to expand their borders.

      The U.S. and Israeli regimes are 100% in the wrong here, and Irans government is irrelevant to those facts. They’re not helping the people of Iran, they’re doing imperialism.

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        2 days ago

        Counterpoint: the oppressive regime is never irrelevant.

        The Iranian government cannot be irrelevant because the person I replied to initially was writing fiction about their behaviour. It’s why we’re having a conversation at all.

        Last I checked, no one here is arguing that the US or Israel are helping the Iranian people. But as I said before, the US (or Israel) being bad doesn’t make Iran good.

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          2 days ago

          Oh you’re right… it’s totally worth spending 37bn+ on a war to protect US child raping ruling class from justice.

          Maybe there’s other countries you deem bad we can indiscriminately bomb on behalf of Israel?

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            2 days ago

            It seems like you may be malfunctioning. That’s a wild non-sequitur.

            Who are you having that conversation with? And why are you replying to me?

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              2 days ago

              You seem intent on pointing out Iran is bad, in spite of the fact that the reason it’s in the spotlight is mainly as a distraction from punishment at home.

              “Iran bad” is irrelevant to you. You are clearly not Iranian; it literally doesn’t matter what you think about Iranians government to compare them to the two governments that almost certainly relevant to you. They can deal with their own problems internally, and the imperialist two shithead governments deserve the full weight of criticism.

              So yeah, welcome to conversations online clearly you are new to them as people can discuss things, and reply to your comments.

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                1 day ago

                Reply to me, not the argument you wish I was making.

                I’ll simplify for you: Fuck the US. Fuck Iran. Fuck this war.

                If you want to talk to someone saying something different than that, go find them and talk to them.

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                  1 day ago

                  “But guys, Iran bad too!” -non Iranian who’s not getting bombed by aggressor states.

                  Wow, great commentary there buddy.

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      2 days ago

      Do you think bombing Iran helps Iran’s progressives? It’s impossible to change Iran as long as the US is waiting to exploit the tiniest sign of weakness.